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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 07:50:25
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Well, I kind of like the first few better for some reason...especially Kill 'Em All. Burton's bass playing was just spot on for that era...
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 08:11:34
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I like the one with Nothing else Matters, Sad But True and Enter Sandman.
I really just pull the songs I like off of an album and thats all that goes onto my iPOD
Not sure which album this one was but I like the micing and mix on it all
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 09:52:07
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I like the "Load" and "Re-Load" albums for the songwriting and melodies (IMO these are more hard rock than metal and/or speed metal). These were albums that grabbed me (including the Black Album, but everyones miles may vary).
Their earlier stuff was what put them on the map (Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightening, etc...) and is much more heavier,darker, and raw.
They even did an album (possibly it was a double album?) with a full orchestra in which a lot of the hardcore fans were not happy with....but I thought it was really good to see them expanding their music.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 11:14:13
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The one where they did monkee covers. Wait I think I am one of three that owns that
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 12:13:11
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I like the one with Nothing else Matters, Sad But True and Enter Sandman.
I really just pull the songs I like off of an album and thats all that goes onto my iPOD
Not sure which album this one was but I like the micing and mix on it all
The eponymous 'black album'. It is good, and probably the one that brought them to a wider audience. I watched the 'making of' documentary last night strangely enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5joN_OaDIpc Warning..Lars..'ummm'.. Ulrich may be one of the most irritating interviewees ever. 
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 12:35:19
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 12:37:05
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Ride the Lightning is the one that really started it all for me. I was a die hard fan until the Black album, at which time I somehow lost my interest for the genre.
Still, I appreciated the fact that they were at least trying different things on Load and Re-Load. And at least, those albums sounded good.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 15:17:51
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'Kill Em All" always brings back memories of my teenage years when every penny I earned or received was spent on albums. I spent hours every week in the back row of my local record store called The Record Breaker, back when the places you bought music were still little independently owned and operated shops.
I remember the day I discovered Metallica back in 1983, I was 16 and on a album shopping spree with money my grandmother had given me in a birthday card a few weeks prior. The Record Breaker has the largest selection of underground and imported metal out of any of the local record stores so it was my shop. It must have been around the 1st of August and as I walked in the owner knew my tastes and told me that they had just gotten in Metallica's first album - I had purchased the "Metal Massacre" compilation a few months earlier and had commented to the owner that I really like Metallica's track on it so when he saw that they had released an album he made note to tell me it had come in.
I can't tell you how much it cost back in 1983, but I still have that album despite many of the purchases I made back in those days ending up who knows where after I moved out of my parents house, but that original Megaforce pressing of "Kill Em All" is still in my vinyl collection to this day and is still my all time favorite Metallica album. It, along with Accept's 1982 release "Restless and Wild" were my favorite metal albums for several years.
If you looking for a good place to start - "Kill Em All" is the place to start.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 15:25:01
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If you looking for a good place to start - "Kill Em All" is the place to start.
Somehow, if the rest of the comments weren't available, this just doesn't look like it would be a good thing.....  
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 15:29:28
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metallica's best album.......
has yet to be recorded.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 15:33:11
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Hi,
I'm opposed to listening to and supporting anything by Metallica, after their attempt to kill Napster.
The upside of it, was that it made mp3's cool for everyone, so their greed, became everyone's gain!
But the cynicism is what got me ... on their "behind the music" ... it looks like you have sold out ... yeah ... every night!
And it's hard for me to appreciate that sort of greed and disrespect for the thousands and thousands of people that deserve more fro their efforts and music, than they will ever get, because some bands are stealing the spotlight they do not deserve anymore!
I'm on strike and I do not think that this band needs, or deserves any more listens or appreciation. There are far better musicians out there, including the CHB, that deserve better attention out there than these folks!
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 15:43:51
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@Mosh Much respect for standing up for your views. @OP Kill 'em All is my fave, but the first three were the best and the only good ones IMO.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 15:54:53
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5joN_OaDIpc
Warning..Lars..'ummm'.. Ulrich may be one of the most irritating interviewees ever.
Just wait until I'm interviewed.
Yes but if it's for wearing cerise tie-up espadrilles and matching knee pasties in a public place again it will be entertaining at least.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 16:00:15
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 16:02:58
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I'd like to discover how Ed gets his tassels to contra-rotate while walking.
He makes it look so natural.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 16:08:12
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...and then you make eye contact and you look away really fast, as if it's not obvious you were staring...
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 16:20:14
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....and it's too late when you realize that you're already hypnotized.....it has a lot to do with the graceful rhythmic motion he walks in.....
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 16:26:00
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Moshkiae
Hi,
I'm opposed to listening to and supporting anything by Metallica, after their attempt to kill Napster.
The upside of it, was that it made mp3's cool for everyone, so their greed, became everyone's gain!
But the cynicism is what got me ... on their "behind the music" ... it looks like you have sold out ... yeah ... every night!
And it's hard for me to appreciate that sort of greed and disrespect for the thousands and thousands of people that deserve more fro their efforts and music, than they will ever get, because some bands are stealing the spotlight they do not deserve anymore!
I'm on strike and I do not think that this band needs, or deserves any more listens or appreciation. There are far better musicians out there, including the CHB, that deserve better attention out there than these folks!
Do I get this right? You are bashing Metallica for protesting free internet download and copyright infringement on one hand, but on the other hand you complain that other artists aren't getting their share, seemingly BECAUSE of Metallica? I don't know how things are where you live but here in Canada, the situation for "content providers" is alarming. And it isn't Hetfield and his buddies who are responsible for that. What Metallica stood up against hits us all very hard. The whole Metallica/Napster fiasco bothered me to no end and it did make them look greedy. But looking back, you know what? I think they did the right thing. The fact that there are better musicians out there is sort of irrelevant - you may as well burn down your entire record collection because there's always a better musician somewhere. I can bash them when they do wrong - St.Anger and Lulu are both on my list of album that never should have been recorded - but I can give credit where credit is deserved. Growing up in the mid 80s, it was rather refreshing to see some guys offer an alternative to hair metal and all those androgynous musicians and bring back music to us - the poor kids. I should also mention that I discovered a lot of bands because of them - from the obvious Misfits and Samhain to Killing Joke and all the others. Metallica and others like Slayer helped close the gap between the punk and the metal communities where I lived - which was most welcome as far as I'm concerned, because things were getting pretty violent out there on the streets.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 17:43:41
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While "Kill "em All" and " Ride the Lightning" have..... some.... scorching tracks. Their over all consistency lacks? and I say that as an original and longtime fan. I find "And Justice for All" and " Master of Puppets" to have a bit more consistency. In the early years Metallica relied on heavy duty touring and a solid underground fan base to keep moving ahead................ The MTV video "One" gave them a broader legitimacy and recognition........... You may want to start by "Youtube" 'ing that video. The later emergence of "Mega Death" and the folk lore surrounding the 2 groups help each at the right time....................... The release of the "Black " album was when my attention began shifting to some of the newer metal acts. A little advice...........during your search,do one thing consistently. Crank It Up...................
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 17:56:28
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While "Kill "em All" and " Ride the Lightning" have..... some.... scorching tracks.
Their over all consistency lacks? and I say that as an original and longtime fan.
I find "And Justice for All" and " Master of Puppets" to have a bit more consistency.
In the early years Metallica relied on heavy duty touring and a solid underground fan base to keep moving ahead................
The MTV video "One" gave them a broader legitimacy and recognition...........
You may want to start by "Youtube" 'ing that video.
The later emergence of "Mega Death" and the folk lore surrounding the 2 groups help each at the right time.......................
The release of the "Black " album was when my attention began shifting to some of the newer metal acts.
A little advice...........during your search,do one thing consistently.
Crank It Up...................
Unfortunately, I find it harder and harder to go back to those pre-black album records. The production on those records gets in the way, more than it seemed to back in the days. IMHO, Lightning and Puppets had the best songs. I loved Justice when it came out, but, man - what an odd sounding album. I wouldn't neglect to include Garage Days - later re-released as part of Garage Inc. IMHO, that captures Metallica better than most of their own records, even if these are all covers. It retains the raw side of the band, something that previous albums failed to really do and something that was put aside during the polished Bob Rock era.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/04/30 18:45:13
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Which of their albums is gonna grab me and make me see the light? Do you not appreciate the "Genre" or is it the "Metallica" in general? Just curious.
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/05/01 08:19:30
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Master of Puppets stands head and shoulders above all the others IMO. Their only album with any measure of consistency (On second thought, I suspect their latest albums might have some consistency. My guess is they'll be consistently bad). If you want to listen to some modern metal that isn't tame or sanitized, check out Mastodon, especially the album Blood Mountain. First time I listened to it I thought my headphones were blown! Sven
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/05/01 08:41:38
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Another vote for 'Puppets'
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/05/01 08:43:38
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Thanks Sven... listening now and I can tell I like Mastadon's drummer straight off.
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Yeah, he has a pretty reckless playing style. Like the way I want to be playing right after I've gulped down my first pot of coffee in the morning!
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2012/05/01 10:50:29
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Do I get this right? You are bashing Metallica for protesting free internet download and copyright infringement on one hand, but on the other hand you complain that other artists aren't getting their share, seemingly BECAUSE of Metallica? You are mis-interpreting things. What is out there is already out there, and you can't stop it. It was the same thing 40 years ago, and the same stories about almost all bootlegs. Metallica abused its priviledge, but having lawyers go out and get them more money ... plain and simple ... because they could afford to. The ruse that they were protecting this and that, is an excuse ... I understand, and know what you are saying better than you will ever know, having had a screenplay stolen, and not be able to recoup a single cent because I can not afford the lawyers for it ... and I do not feel sorry for these ****tards that are taking advantage of the system, supposedly protecting everyone else. They don't give a damn about you and never will! The business has changed. If you are still going to cry because you are not capable, or willing to sell your own work ... that is your issue, not mine. If you are playing top ten and complaining that the Red Lion is not paying you enough, that is your issue, not mine, and your musicianship and ability is not in question ... but your methodology and lack of luck could be! I was saying this to Gong in 1990 ... get on the Internet ... and they finally did by 1996 and have been there since. They were not major then, but it was a location that they could all "meet" ... and there was no need for "illegal" unloads, or whatever, because you could get the real thing. There is a massive difference between "greed" ... and "jerks". And even Pink Floyd and The Beatles have been a part of it ... are they justified? To a point yes, because some folks are making money off them ... but if all you can do is clamor and scream that you deserve another million when you already have 100 ... go ahead. Enjoy yourself! But don't blame me for not buying or accepting your material! Because the words and lyrics are so hollow and empty, than you could possibly imagine or even give a damn about! Sorry ... as I said before, even the CHB lyrics are more important and valuable to me than any Metallica over blown famous crap!
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Re:Metallica's best album?
2012/05/01 11:35:14
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Moshkiae
Rain
Do I get this right? You are bashing Metallica for protesting free internet download and copyright infringement on one hand, but on the other hand you complain that other artists aren't getting their share, seemingly BECAUSE of Metallica?
You are mis-interpreting things.
What is out there is already out there, and you can't stop it. It was the same thing 40 years ago, and the same stories about almost all bootlegs.
Metallica abused its priviledge, but having lawyers go out and get them more money ... plain and simple ... because they could afford to.
The ruse that they were protecting this and that, is an excuse ...
I understand, and know what you are saying better than you will ever know, having had a screenplay stolen, and not be able to recoup a single cent because I can not afford the lawyers for it ... and I do not feel sorry for these ****tards that are taking advantage of the system, supposedly protecting everyone else. They don't give a damn about you and never will!
The business has changed. If you are still going to cry because you are not capable, or willing to sell your own work ... that is your issue, not mine. If you are playing top ten and complaining that the Red Lion is not paying you enough, that is your issue, not mine, and your musicianship and ability is not in question ... but your methodology and lack of luck could be!
I was saying this to Gong in 1990 ... get on the Internet ... and they finally did by 1996 and have been there since. They were not major then, but it was a location that they could all "meet" ... and there was no need for "illegal" unloads, or whatever, because you could get the real thing.
There is a massive difference between "greed" ... and "jerks". And even Pink Floyd and The Beatles have been a part of it ... are they justified? To a point yes, because some folks are making money off them ... but if all you can do is clamor and scream that you deserve another million when you already have 100 ... go ahead. Enjoy yourself!
But don't blame me for not buying or accepting your material! Because the words and lyrics are so hollow and empty, than you could possibly imagine or even give a damn about!
Sorry ... as I said before, even the CHB lyrics are more important and valuable to me than any Metallica over blown famous crap!
Not buying is one thing, and is totally legitimate. But stealing is stealing, whether it's from Metallica or from your neighbor. And the fact that it's always been doesn't justify anything. BTW, in Canada at least, there used to be certain mechanisms in place to compensate the artists for illegal reproduction via a certain amount of $ derived from blank medium (tape) sales. There is no such thing w/ digital. So while making illegal copies and sharing is a million time easier, no mechanism is there to ensure that the artists get the due compensation. Whether Metallica or the Beatles look greedy when they complain about that is an opinion. If one hates them for being greedy, so be it. But it doesn't justify downloading their work - or anyone else's - for free. And I'm talking about material readily available for legal download here. I make no illusion that Metallica were fighting the cause for their own selves. I don't see them as heroes, I'm not that naive.
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