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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 16:28:54 (permalink)
    I can never get my win 7 64 bit with FireFox to talk to the site, have to use explorer.
    But weird, on my work PC win xp 32 bit I just accessed my Ilok acoount with my hardware, though

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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 16:57:26 (permalink)
    Mike,

    I've had to use an older computer before to download stuff onto the iLok.  And it worked fine on the newer computer - that is the point.  Drag the iLok between machines w/ all your authorizations dongled. 

    I think I had the same situation - sounds like it anyway.

    Surely you have an old machine - or someone you know does.  Use that to get the dongle right.


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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 18:08:49 (permalink)
    Hi Mike

    This also caused me no end of frustration. I tried everything until the following worked:


    - You need to use your 32-bit IE10.

    - Although you're likely on Win 7 (64-bit)?, you should have 2 versions of IE10 on your Start Menu >>> All Programs. One will say 64-bit, the other will say nothing. The one with nothing beside is the 32-bit version. However, sometimes the 64-bit one may have nothing beside it and the 32-bit version may have (x86) beside it. I'm sure you'll figure it out. 

    - Once you have IE10 32-bit running, press ALT on the keyboard to get access to Internet Explorer's Menu bar. Go to 'Tools' >>> 'Internet Options' >>> 'Advanced' tab, scroll quite far down and check the box which says "Allow active content to run in files on my computer". 

    - Close IE10 down.

    - Start IE10 up again.

    - Go to the iLok website. Plug your iLok in and then log in (all in the order I wrote it).

    - Look out for IE10's little message at the bottom of the browser asking if you want to allow iLok.com to run Active X or something or another along those lines. I can't recall exactly what it says. Click Allow/Yes to this.

    - You should now be logged in with everything working fine with your iLok and licenses showing up in your account.


    See how you get on with this. Worth a try. It works for me. No more XP boot ups for me just for the iLok. 

    Stewart 

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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 18:16:13 (permalink)
    iLok.  noun
    1. Anagram of the name, Loki
    2. a small device that plugs into a computer and is purported to serve as an adapter or as a security measure to enable the use of certain software, but in reality is a Hardware Virus.
    3. a practical joke by an alien race known as the Mac-Hiavellians.  Considered to be in extremely poor taste throughout all galaxies.
    4. derogatory term usually screamed at the top of one's voice while raising a fist in a manner reminiscent of Captain Kirk screaming the name, KHAN!!!
    5 the end of Western Civilization.  Well, it had a good run.
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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 18:26:22 (permalink)
    When WAVES left iLok I imagine that was like a mall losing its biggest anchor store.  Shouldn't be long now before Slate, Soundtoys and the like follow suit. Just a matter of time. That's also probably why iLok hasn't updated since dinosaurs roamed the Earth. Why bother?

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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 18:26:40 (permalink)
    Yeah, it's a frustrating procedure alright.

    I use Mozilla 3.6 when I want to update my iLok. It's the only thing I could get to work.

     
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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 18:39:28 (permalink)
    Another perfect example of the tail wagging the dog. You spend thousands on software and it grinds to a halt because of a dongle worth $5. Not what they charge, but likely what it costs them.

    Nonsense! 

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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 19:17:20 (permalink)
    You obviously completely overlooked my post about this in 
    your other iLok thread Mike....

    Would have saved you 5 hours of frustration....





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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 19:54:19 (permalink)
    Oh, my bad...

    I have no issues with IE10 32 bit with my iLok...

    so sorry for that...just thought you missed it..


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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 20:04:49 (permalink)

    I'm using Safari 5 (on OSX) and no issue w/ iLok - even though the site says optimized for version 4.

    As much as I dislike the dongle, ever since I started using one w/ Pro Tools last year, I must admit that I never had any issue w/ it.


    OTOH, I've had authorization/copy protection issues with:

    Cakewalk instruments (many times)
    IK Multimedia Plug-ins/libraries (many times)
    Focusrite plug-ins (twice, now fixed)
    Korg instrument plug-ins (2 or 3 times in 1 1/2 month)
    Arturia instruments (once)
    SSL's Duende Code Meter (once)

    If you ask me, the absolute worst type of copy protection is - by far - the soft version of the traditional dongle, like Arturia is using. It is much worst than the actual hardware. But any authorization method can give you issues and they all can cause a significant downtime.

    So far, the hardware dongle is the only method that has not let me down at one point or another. I've also been lucky w/ Waves, but I consider the cloud to be similar to other methods already mentioned above which have failed at one time or another for me.

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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 21:42:41 (permalink)
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    I know you were on my side. :-)


    When I saw it work with the old laptop it seemed so smooth... 

    I wonder if merely having the other 64bit IE install is causing the trouble? Do you have the 64bit version?

    When I launch from the (x86) folder I can't find anything in "about" that makes it seem different from the 64 bit version.

    It just stalled when I did it and then timed out to my account page.

    Thanks for the info!


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    You bet I'm on your side...

    I pulled my hair out figuring out that it required a 32 bit Browser...

    I wasn't on this forum when I originally installed it...so didn't have the luxury...and no internet connection either..LOL


    But, since then I know that it needs a 32 bit browser...

    I've just demo'd Lexicon LXP....which is awesome...and the Demo license installed without a hitch with IE 32 bit..






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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 21:48:24 (permalink)
    btw....IE 10 32 bit doesn't tell you it's 32 bit...

    There is a gear in the upper right hand corner, and the drop down has "about"

    Mine says IE 10.0.9200.16540
    Update 10.0.4

    Nothing as to whether or not it's 64 or 32 bit...

    All I know is I can download my iLok licenses with it...LOL


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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/04/30 23:55:27 (permalink)
    I resisted & resisted & resisted buying an ilok, thinking I just know this $5 thing isn't worth $40.

    But at the time, Waves plugs required it.

    So I bit my tongue, grabbed my credit card, scratched my nackers & bought one.

    Sure enough, the 'piece of s*it' crapped out in less than a year.

    Waves have since bailed on it - and so have I. 

    Now any plugs I shop for or even just look at - as soon as I see 'ilok required', I'm gone.

    My Waves License Cloud sits on a simple Kingston USB Flash Drive now - just $8 dollars - and still going strong without a hitch.
     



     
     
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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/01 10:39:36 (permalink)
    I just went through this same thing yesterday.  I finally got an email from PACE saying I had to use Firefox 3.6 or whatever and I was finally able to download the software upgrade I needed to transfer my Melodyne license.

    I hate it, hate it, hate it--and take every opportunity I can to notify vendors of that, asking them to reconsider their piracy protection in the future.
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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/01 14:52:13 (permalink)
    mike_mccue

    When I launch from the (x86) folder I can't find anything in "about" that makes it seem different from the 64 bit version.

    It just stalled when I did it and then timed out to my account page.



    If you have some time, give what I wrote a try. My guess is that your your IE(x86) may have stalled due to not having its settings tweaked to enable the Active X dialogue box to allow the iLok website to run. It's worth a try as it may save you having to dig out old laptops with XP in future.
    • 'Internet Options' >>> 'Advanced' tab, scroll quite far down and check the box which says 'Allow active content to run in files on my computer'.
    • Close down and re-open IE(x86).  
    • Go to the iLok website. Plug your iLok in and then log in (all in the order I wrote it). 
    • Look out for the dialogue box at the bottom of the browser asking if you want to allow iLok.com to run Active X or something or another along those lines. I can't recall exactly what it says. Click Allow/Yes to this. 

    It'd be interesting to know if this works for others or if I've just been lucky as this iLok browser issue is notorious with lots and lots of people scratching their heads. This may help many if tested out. 


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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/20 22:57:27 (permalink)


    Still can't get the XP machine on the net tonight. It worked great a couple weeks ago so I'm pretty sure it's CenturyLink's servers and not the old laptop.


    I went ahead and downloaded an old version of Firefox 3.6 and installed it next to Firefox 15 on my Win7 64x laptop.


    I used the 32bit version of Firefox3.6 but all I got a javascript warning and and Actixe X component not loaded dialog. 


    Nothing on my current laptop will talk to the iLOk website.


    I hope the old XP box gets on the net soon.




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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/20 23:28:41 (permalink)
    I have used Sentinel and Hasp dongles for non music software for years and there are many distributed through my company. To use a cliche "they just work" and are our prefered way of managing licences.

    In principal I have nothing against dongles but iLok just seems to give so many issues I have always avoided it. Admittidly the Sentinals and Hasps don't hold multiple licences by many manufactures but it looks like iLok really need to get their act together. Needing to use a 32 bit browser in this day and age is **********

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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/21 00:10:50 (permalink)
    have you checked that on the laptop your not plugged into a USB3 port?

    my desktop is win7 64bit w/ IE 10 and I had no problem with ilok2 , website, register nada.

    BUT when plugged into a USB3 port nothing saw the ilok2.
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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/21 00:13:37 (permalink)
    I've said before that when iLok lost WAVES it was the beginning of the end. This would also explain why they have not updated their system.  They will soon be gone.

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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/21 05:54:47 (permalink)
    I've given up on iLok, written off my spending and put it down to experience and bad judgment!
     
    I'll never again buy software that relies on hardware protection.
     
    I have one VSTi, Halion Sonic, that uses Syncrosoft and seems to be trouble free but I will not buy any more.

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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/21 06:46:20 (permalink)
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    have you checked that on the laptop your not plugged into a USB3 port?

    my desktop is win7 64bit w/ IE 10 and I had no problem with ilok2 , website, register nada.

    BUT when plugged into a USB3 port nothing saw the ilok2.

    I only have one machine with USB 3 and it's not on the internet.


    I've just been using my regular USB 2 stuff.

    Thanks.


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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/21 06:59:08 (permalink)
    jeffb63


    I've given up on iLok, written off my spending and put it down to experience and bad judgment!
     
    I'll never again buy software that relies on hardware protection.
     
    I have one VSTi, Halion Sonic, that uses Syncrosoft and seems to be trouble free but I will not buy any more.

    I made the exception because I really like the Reverb that Michael Carnes of Exponential Audio is making.


    He's a one man operation and the sound is world class. It just is. I don't say that often. I don't think I've ever said it about anything digital.


    Mr. Carnes doesn't want to get ripped off.


    It is so unfortunate that he has to make us suffer the inconvenience of this iLok crap but I can imagine how he would feel he has no choice.


    Normally I would ignore the Exponential Product simply because it is iLok but it sounds so good, to my ears, that I decided to take a chance with the iLok.


    The demonstration that iLok's website is not serviceable with a current Windows machine highlights my opinion that they are nothing but third party extortionists who expose the end user to the risk that they will not have access to the software licenses they have purchased. 


    It is a shame when buying a world class product leaves you feeling foolish.


    I am going to contact Mr. Carnes and suggest that he reads this thread so he can get a better sense of who he is partnered up with.


    Thanks for trying to help everyone.

    best regards,
    mike







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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/21 07:04:14 (permalink)
    yorolpal


    I've said before that when iLok lost WAVES it was the beginning of the end. This would also explain why they have not updated their system.  They will soon be gone.

    I think you must be correct.


    Their website seems stuck in a time warp and all the support info is clearly meant for a circumstance that is long gone.




    "We're working on support for Firefox 4" doesn't sound contemporary when you are visiting the site with Firefox 15+





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    Re:iLok? I must be some kind of idiot. 2013/05/21 10:06:58 (permalink)
    Just went through the iLok episode myself last night.  Started out in Chrome but iLok.com couldn't find my iLok dongle.  Went to Firefox with the same issue.  It took a while to realize what was causing this because all the messages tended to indicate something else.

    Finally ended up in Internet Explorer and everything talked to each other and all was good.  Wish I could get that hour back though.

    I tend to like the idea behing iLok because I want my software vendors to have protection and I would like to believe that, because I spent my hard earned dollars on legitimate software, I'm not in competition with a bunch of low lifes who have every plugin on the planet in warez form.

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