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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/09 15:59:38 (permalink)
Get a portable, USB CD drive.
 
I picked one up recently for about $40.
 
 

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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/09 16:18:32 (permalink)
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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/09 16:33:33 (permalink)
Yep, an external DVD/RW will work perfectly...

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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/09 16:57:35 (permalink)
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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/09 17:10:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2016/09/09 18:41:06
Yes, I use YUMI for this and I've been using it for years with no problems on multiple machines (I volunteer to fix computers at a local Senior Center, so I use this a lot).
 
It will allow you to make a bootable Flash drive (if your BIOS supports it).
 
I put Acronis True Image, Acronis Disk Director, Linux Mint, Kaspersky antivirus, Windows installers,and many other ISOs on that flash drive.
 
Most ISOs are 1GB or less, so you can put dozens of ISO startup images on the smallest of drives.
 
And the load time for a DVD could be minutes, while a Flash drive loads in seconds.
 
Get YUMI here:
 
http://www.pendrivelinux....multiboot-usb-creator/

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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/09 17:42:49 (permalink)
At this point I never use a CD / DVD.
I create image file on hard drive, any one other that the drive being imaged.
 
You can set the image file size to be able to fit on a CD or DVD if you wish to burn them later or for easier transferring.
i usually store my backups on a hard drive connected by USB or external sata docking station.
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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/10 04:21:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Caa2 2016/09/10 13:46:24
Some versions of Acronis imaging software will let you create a bootable copy on a flash drive from within the Acronis program without any additional software. If you have a flash drive plugged in when you choose Tools & Utilities\ create bootable media, it will appear as an option as a location to create the bootable Acronis software. 
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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/10 16:16:27 (permalink)
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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/10 18:21:37 (permalink)
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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/10 18:48:04 (permalink)
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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/10 21:15:32 (permalink)
I have not tried what you describe. One would hope that a disk image made with a portable installation of Acronis would work, but remember, that the standard Acronis image is not just a copy of the drive, it is "smart" in that it decides what is important and what to save with the image. That is an advantage in reducing image size but potentially problematic if it decides that something is important in Vista but not in Win 10. If I were going to try this I would use the sector copy option which will reproduce the "empty" sectors i e. a forensic image, but that will add a lot of time and size to the backup. Or just use Windows imaging, or Macrium Reflect Free (or Home if you want to spend $). Or use your old version of Acronis and then try to restore it to the same drive. Everyone says that the only way to test an image restore is to actually run a restore, and everyone neglects to mention that doing an actual restore to the same drive will destroy the installation you just imaged, so if it fails you have shot yourself in the foot. Unless you have a spare identical drive to restore to that "test" is impractical. 
 
http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
 
You are fishing in the wrong lake for the answer you need. Try googling "windows 10" site: forum.acronis.com.
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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/11 05:25:42 (permalink)
I am hoping that some one that knows the answer may be able to share the knowledge.

The search that has been suggested yields dozens of listings that are long reading and don't seem to have any info that is pertinent to my question.

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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/11 09:54:17 (permalink)
>Will Acronis True Image 2013 make an image of all of Windows 10's hidden partition areas?
Depends on whether you are backing up a partition or the whole drive.
A whole drive backup should back all partitions even hidden ones.
Hidden partitions may have naught to do with Windows 10, if you bought your PC with a OS chances are the vendor has a hidden rescue partition on the boot drive.
If you want to see what Acronis is excluding check the Exclusion settings.
 
Be aware that if you use Chrome - newer versions of Acronis by default does not save your browser settings, bookmarks, history, etc.
So if you use the browser to save passwords or you do a lot of bookmarking you might not be happy if you need to restore a system.
 
Note: I have not used Acronis 2013 to backup and restore a Windows 10 system.
So I can't tell you for certain if it can restore a Windows 10 backup or if 'support for Windows 10' is a marketing move to get you to purchase an Acronis upgrade.
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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/11 10:53:43 (permalink)
As TheSteven pointed out, make sure you look over the default exclusions.
I always remove these and back up everything.
 
It's been a while since I had Acronis 2013 so I don't remember what it could or could not do.
The NTFS file system, the GPT and MBR partitioning systems have been around for some time.
Any back up system that understands them should be able to backup Windows 10.
 
If you use some of the newer Windows 10 features that use ReFS (like Storage Spaces), I don't think very many products will back that up. That's a completely different file system.
 
When a program says it is designed for Windows X, that usually just refers to the GUI and Windows APIs.
Most of the file system stuff has been unchanged since Windows XP. I think GPT booting is newer, but that is still fairly old.
 
I'm no file system expert, this is just my take on the subject.
 
I have updated Acronis products as soon as they came out, but this year I think I'll stick with Acronis 2016.
I don't see anything I want in the features.
The product is reaching critical bloat stature and has a lot of unnecessary parts and services.
All I want is full drive image backup and restore on demand. No schedules, no cloud, no continuous backup, no sync, nada.
 
 
 

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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/11 12:03:53 (permalink)
The main files I exclude are the Window's swap file and the hybernation file: pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys
These can be huge and the system will recreate both on first boot if needed.
 
One of then newer features Acronis offers (for a fee) is cloud backup.
Unless you've got phenomenal internet upload speed it's worthless on an active system - took weeks to backup my 2 terabyte laptop and I'm not even sure the backup is viable because of the constant updates and file changes that were happening while the backup was taking place.   

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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/11 12:09:55 (permalink)
re: One of then newer features Acronis offers (for a fee) is cloud backup.
 
Might be good if you're on the road and need to recover a file of project but if your main hard drive takes a dirt nap and you have to image a new drive you may not have access to the internet or even if you do restoring from a USB or external hard drive will be much faster.
 

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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/11 12:41:49 (permalink)
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The main files I exclude are the Window's swap file and the hybernation file: pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys
These can be huge and the system will recreate both on first boot if needed.
 

 
Personally, I have hibernation OFF and the swapfile is on a different drive than my boot drive.
But this is good advice for most people.
I also point swapfile.sys to a different drive.
 
Most people should be able to store a full system image in a small, fast USB drive.
 
My backups take only about 10 -15 minutes (for the system drive image to a Supersonic Magnum USB 3 Flash Drive) - faster than a disk backup. I'm backing up as I write this and getting 1GB backed up every 7 or 8 seconds.
The system drive file space used is pretty big - 105 GB - the backup image is 70GB with default compression.
Backup with verify is under 30 minutes.
 
I have not had to restore Windows 10, but I did restore Windows 8.1 once in about 10 minutes or so. I forget the exact time, but it was fast.
 
 

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Re: Using Acronis without a CD/DVD drive? 2016/09/12 13:33:38 (permalink)
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