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16 Virtual Custom Amps?
cakewalk.comFrom country to metal, bass to funk, classic rock to futuristic, SONAR’s 16 new drag-and-drop amps aren’t about emulating existing amps—but creating idealized amps that can exist only in the virtual world. Get ready to change how you look at amp simulations.
 Are these actual amp sims, or is this just a gussied up FX chain?
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/16 15:10:45
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How/where do we get these?
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/16 15:19:59
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The New Sonar of course 
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/16 15:20:53
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☄ Helpfulby yevster 2015/01/17 00:14:11
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cakewalk.comFrom country to metal, bass to funk, classic rock to futuristic, SONAR’s 16 new drag-and-drop amps aren’t about emulating existing amps—but creating idealized amps that can exist only in the virtual world. Get ready to change how you look at amp simulations.
Are these actual amp sims, or is this just a gussied up FX chain?
Both, actually. FX chains provide a framework, but there's also a lot of proprietary IP I developed for Gibson while working on the FBX guitar. I've been developing them for almost a year. If you want to hear what they sound like, listen to the first four music videos on my YouTube channel. All the guitars and basses went through these sims. Also, most of the effects were ones I've designed (and will be made available to members).
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/16 15:23:40
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The New Sonar of course
The response from people who've played through them is so positive that there's been some talk about releasing them independently of SONAR as a Cakewalk product. But if that happens, which is by no means certain, it will be well into the future. One thing I'd like to add is that the distortion "cleans up" if you turn down the guitar volume. Took a lot of effort to get that right...I'll be doing a video demo after NAMM.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/16 15:29:44
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One thing I'd like to add is that the distortion "cleans up" if you turn down the guitar volume. Took a lot of effort to get that right...I'll be doing a video demo after NAMM.
I love a good demo, shouting, banner waving, fighting... oh, not that sort of demo? So, is there a difference between turning down the guitar volume and turning down the audio interface input gain? or the track gain for that matter?
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/16 16:25:36
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So, is there a difference between turning down the guitar volume and turning down the audio interface input gain? or the track gain for that matter?
You can't do the latter two with your pinky. Only the greys have fingers long enough to both play guitar and diddle with the audio interface knob. Although I don't think you ever denied being a grey...hmmm... BUT yes, if you use clip gain you can automate the cleaning up process.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/22 21:32:10
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I'm not sure where to locate these while using Sonar Platinum. I do not see anything in my list of audio effects entitled custom amps. Can you point the way for me? Thank you...
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/22 21:44:39
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I'm not sure where to locate these while using Sonar Platinum. I do not see anything in my list of audio effects entitled custom amps. Can you point the way for me? Thank you...
I think in the browser / plugins / FX Chain.
post edited by Dave000 - 2015/01/22 22:02:42
Hay look, Somethings are not locked in stone... lol 3/18/2019
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 00:35:15
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I thought they sounded like crap
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 00:54:04
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 03:03:45
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 03:07:49
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Is there a page on the cakewalk site that goes through each of the Amps? I'm super excited to try them out later today.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 03:16:35
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Is there a page on the cakewalk site that goes through each of the Amps? I'm super excited to try them out later today.
There is a "read me" with tips on the controls and such. Cakewalk really wants me to do an audio demo, especially showing things that aren't obvious like how the amps "clean up" when you turn down the input, but I'm at NAMM now. Meanwhile, the songs cited above have several sections with guitar through amp with no other sounds going on, so you can year the tones in isolation. Judge for yourself.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 04:12:37
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I'm not sure where to locate these while using Sonar Platinum. I do not see anything in my list of audio effects entitled custom amps. Can you point the way for me? Thank you...
I'd like to know this, too.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 04:55:28
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I have had a little time to play around with these now (the updated versions), and really like them.
Responsive is a word that comes to mind.
Crisp is another (on certain sounds).
I imagine they will sit nicely in a mix, with little tweaking outside of the FX Chain.
Truly impressed, Craig.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 05:17:15
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I thought they sounded like crap
Great 2nd post 
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 05:48:46
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I thought they sounded like crap
The short negative statement, with no supporting detail, oft used by the truly ignorant brigade. No value or credibility whatsoever.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 10:23:26
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letyourlightshine
I thought they sounded like crap
The short negative statement, with no supporting detail, oft used by the truly ignorant brigade. No value or credibility whatsoever.
I didn't know crap had a sound, so at least I learned something.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 10:34:10
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In England we call it a raspberry
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/23 10:35:30
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☄ Helpfulby JCody 2015/01/27 17:05:14
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
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☄ Helpfulby AndreyB 2015/01/26 06:17:02
These do sound awesome; that said I had to keep turning on/off input echo for them to sound correct. If it didn't they were extremely muddy.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/24 13:07:03
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Will it be possible to use the "16 new amps" with cabinets IRs such as Redwirez ? What kind of cabinets IRs are there now?
post edited by Afrodrum - 2015/01/24 13:29:37
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/24 13:26:45
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Where is the readme located , can't seem to find it?
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/24 13:33:05
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Where ever the "FX Chain Presets\CA-X Amps Producer" are stored on your PC. The default location is "C:\Cakewalk Content\SONAR Platinum\FX Chain Presets\CA-X Amps Producer\CA-X Amps ReadMe.rtf"
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/24 17:53:56
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/24 19:01:35
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I just tried a few of these on a project I've had sitting around for a while (wondering how to finish it) and I do like the convenience. Drag-n-drop, adjust a knob here and there. Very nice! Takes all the mystery out of getting a decent sound out of an amp. When I played onstage back in the 70s and 80s, I had a Roland JC-120 and the only sound it had was clean. It's only amp I ever owned, so I never got the hang of all that knob fiddling. This collection makes it _so_ easy.
post edited by rontarrant - 2015/01/24 19:07:41
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/24 20:51:08
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I got around to trying these today and I was extremely impressed Craig. They are definitely ready to go sounds with a lot of character. I'll be using these in a project real soon. Great job..!
As for LetYourLightShine's assessment, I guess I would call that epic for his second post. Evidently an avid Cakewalk user who just never got around to posting on the forum. We have two dogs so the next time they do produce some crap, I'll be sure to listen more closely and will let you know if indeed your FX chains sound the same.
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/25 02:52:17
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the0x
These do sound awesome; that said I had to keep turning on/off input echo for them to sound correct. If it didn't they were extremely muddy.
Hmmmm...I was hoping the updated versions fixed this. Did you download the latest versions that were released within the past day or two?
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Re: 16 Virtual Custom Amps?
2015/01/25 02:54:58
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☄ Helpfulby Afrodrum 2015/01/25 15:56:05
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Will it be possible to use the "16 new amps" with cabinets IRs such as Redwirez ?
No, sorry. These sims are like a house of cards where if you change anything they suck They're specifically designed to be plug-and-play type modules, as mentioned in post #27.
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