2 overclock or not 2 overclock let that be the question4

1) sounds like you are buying from the wrong guy (3.5GHz really?)  but i digress... ha not really..
default speed is 3.4GHz Intels TURBO auto over clocks it up to 3.9GHZ.  that standard default
http://ark.intel.com/products/65719/

a real overclock would be 4.5 to 4.7GHz and yes it should be done but only by someone who know what they are doing..
when done correctly its 100% stable.
to do a real OC you need a 3770k

i would be a bit concerned with where you are buying from..

definately had absolutely no clue

1) a 3770 is 3.4
2) a 3770K is 3.5
the K chip is for over clocking. @ 3.5 its NOT over clocked

the chip is SUPPOSED to turbo to 3.9 nad not be messed with (unless doing real over clocking)

anyone setting it to 3.5GHz and not allowing it to turbo is well an idiot.
where in the world are you getting this from?

ive just messaged him again after reading ur post again telling him the chip left alone shud turbo to 3.9 how come he says it locked to 3.5 max .i am looking forward to see what he says if its not something clever im going to have to look somewere else.because it does seem crazy what hes telling me .
ps thanks alot for helping and i am sorrys for herific spelling

Basically it's horses for courses at that price point.

He's basically building those systems around an MSI B75 chipset board. Also it is a 'k' chip so 3.50 Ghz is it's stock speed.

B75 is basically designed for a budget business PC you'd want to put that CPU on a Z77 if possible as you are not going to get much joy of of that board if you did want to OC.  But really you are getting a bunch of parts put together and you'll still have to set it all up yourself to get it working well.  You may or may not be better off sourcing the parts yourself or maybe he can give you an option on z77 based machine.

He's a box shifter and for your budget you might strike lucky.  It really depends on your requirements for a music PC.

Here's the main site for them.

http://www.component-warehouse.co.uk/spherepc

Actually that's quite near me they might be handy for some parts...

Their e-bay stock looks newer than the stuff on the internet site.

For the money he's charging and what you have to spend I'd say you don't have many other options.  For what you want to do with it will get you going for sure.

Try talking to them over the 'phone first, you'll get an idea of what they'd be like to deal with if you run into problems and you'll get a feel for the kind of operation they are.

http://www.component-warehouse.co.uk/contact-us

sorry just seen your post think i will give them a ring now.

Given that the major part of the cost here is the CPU then the 'k' chip should only be slighty more expensive at build time so I would specify that at least as it will give you more options for upgrading other components further down the line.

Likewise a low end z77 board shouldn't be that much of a hike over the one he defaults with.

So for something like £60 over what he's asking for the base machine you should end up with a decent basis to start to work from.

What ever route you take you will be able to add a better video card than the on-chip intel graphics which work fine for running X1 @ 1080p.

Ask for it to be left at stock speeds because the only option he has on the locked chip is to increase the base clock rate which opens up issues with memory timings i.e. possible stability problems if it's not done right.  Any performance gained from messing with that is only marginal anyway.  At least you know if you start out at stock speeds any problems you run in to you will have caused yourself.

I went the budget route also with my current machine and it works fine for my needs and although I have the 'k' version of my sandybridge chip it's the H67 based motherboard that keeps me locked down speed wise.

Having said that I get plenty enough from it for my current needs and it's certainly no slouch for my performance requirement.

sorry you have answerd this question it just so happens when im writeing u post reply
im not 2 clued up please expand on why it will be easyer to upgrade other components with the k chip.

cheers freddie do u now of any good mobo to go with the 3700 

sorry ive just realized johnbouy has told me everything ive needed to know all ive had to do is keep reading them, now i understand this thread is over and i would like to thank u 4 your very wise words of wizdam. i keep asking questions johnbouy has allready answerd he is spot on i am now ready to get everything sugested bit more money than i hoped to spend but well werth it 2 turn a crap build into a good one thanks again.