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2013/06/02 09:31:41 (permalink)

2 settings Questions....

Hey... everyone. To simplify this all, I'm wondering about two settings you guys use:

1) How have you set up your Autosave? I don't really like having to go through and clear out tons of wasted autosave files... Sould it be on at all?

2) i TOTALLY had a question about another setting and have no idea what is was. i'll ask later.

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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/02 10:46:50 (permalink)
    1. nope.... I don't use auto save. I manually save after tracking, editing, and on occasion as I work on other things. 

    2....  can't help with that one...

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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/03 10:16:57 (permalink)
    OH YEAH!! Do you guys use per-project folders or one big folder for all audio data?

     
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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/03 10:48:05 (permalink)
    Per Project!!!!!

    If ever you need to rebuild a project just from the audio clips, you'll be glad of the Per Project option.

    And it makes your whole Project Management so much simpler


    post edited by Bristol_Jonesey - 2013/06/03 10:49:22

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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/03 12:58:56 (permalink)
    yeah, always per project.

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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/03 14:20:59 (permalink)
    Per-project, no auto-saves.


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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/03 14:38:31 (permalink)
    It's annoying but I save like every 7 or so changes or every 5 minutes or so. I can't remember which. It has saved me lots of time not redoing a project here and there. I still save very often but sometimes forget and that is when I'm glad I set it up like that.

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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/03 15:05:09 (permalink)
    Autosave is like every 30 minutes, and I do not really use it. I save when I change something that warrants the project (in separate folders) be saved. (I think "autoave" is only one file, and the file is the project file that saves how the project is, not every audio file or picture file as they are called - just the small file that saves the state of the project when it is loaded up by a real save when the project is saved.) In fact if you go into the project folder or whatever folder it is in Sonar, then you can delete the autosaves with no problem because maintainence is needed on a computer anyway.
     
    Better to defrag the harddrive and check it out for bad sectors especially the defrag than worry about an autosave file that takes hardily no room at all on the harddrive. A computer needs maintainance and that can not be avoided, but still I do not even use schedules and leave the computer on all the time, I have harddrive partitions meaning that the harddrive is broken up into different drive letters and different partitions depending on how large I think I will ever use the space on the harddrive for anything. I am using 5.37gB of a logical drive that is 159gB total, and of course if I needed more, I could always use another logical drive by saving the project on a different logical drive letter.
     
    That way if the primary partition C:\ drive bombs because the OS is on that and is the drive used most often starting up the computer and loading the OS, then all I have to replace when the new harddrive is put in is the C:\ drive reloading the backup that is made of it onto a new harddrive and putting in the old harddrive (the C:\ partition that does not work) as a second harddrive just long enough to copy everything over to the new harddrive, and still have all of it on the old harddrive for projects and other programming things on different partitions I may have, because the C:\ drive is the only bad partition on the old drive, the rest of the data is still okay and can be read at any time, plus copying from harddrive to harddrive is the fastest way to move the data around to use the new harddrive quicker.
     
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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/03 15:26:01 (permalink)
    Frost. I've gone 2yrs in a huge audio files folder. It'll take weeks to get all those into per-projects!

     
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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/04 16:01:47 (permalink)
    You can mark the menu when starting up a new project whether it should be in its own folder. I go crazy trying to keep everything in one large audio folder. Sometimes you can tell what song the track belonged in, and other times I would be hard pressed to know where the track belongs.

     
     

     
     
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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/04 19:10:04 (permalink)
    Since in X2 AutoSave doesn't work at all at the frequency you set it to save, can't help ya here...
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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/04 20:34:02 (permalink)
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    Since in X2 AutoSave doesn't work at all at the frequency you set it to save, can't help ya here...


    Haha, hadn't noticed. I don't remember exactly what I set it to I guess I'll have to see how close it saves to how I set it. It is annoying but I can live with it.

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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/05 04:45:04 (permalink)
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    Frost. I've gone 2yrs in a huge audio files folder. It'll take weeks to get all those into per-projects!

    The way to do this is quite simple, though it is time consuming.
     
    First, make sure you've got the Per Project option set correctly.
     
    Then, open up a project.
     
    Do a "Save As" making sure "Copy audio With Project" is checked.
    Save it to a different location - make a new Folder in Windows Explorer if necessary.
     
    Rinse & repeat for all of your projects.
     
    When you've done you can delete everything in the Global Audio Folder

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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/05 07:04:27 (permalink)
    IMO it would be good to Save As under a different name to avoid possible confusion or failing path problems.

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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/09 09:33:41 (permalink)
    I think the thing I HATE! about using per-project is that now it kind of limits me to either using a VST host to build/test sounds, or try stuff out INSIDE an existing project. I hate having to make folders for tiny tests that I'll never use again and only visit once every coupla months....

     
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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/09 10:13:53 (permalink)
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    I think the thing I HATE! about using per-project is that now it kind of limits me to either using a VST host to build/test sounds, or try stuff out INSIDE an existing project. I hate having to make folders for tiny tests that I'll never use again and only visit once every coupla months....


    It is always the case with SONAR that anything you do happens inside a project regardless of the per-project setting. FWIW, you do not have to create any folders to test anything, Control-N will bring up a new empty SONAR project screen. I do have a test project though, I call it empty because I never save anything in it and frequently empty out the associated audio folder. Per-project folders are very useful. So is autosave and versioning. I have them all enabled and have benefited from them many times. Re-organizing a big pool of projects and audio might take a little time up front but it can make working with SONAR much easier in the long run.
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    Re:2 settings Questions.... 2013/06/09 19:55:22 (permalink)
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    I think the thing I HATE! about using per-project is that now it kind of limits me to either using a VST host to build/test sounds, or try stuff out INSIDE an existing project. I hate having to make folders for tiny tests that I'll never use again and only visit once every coupla months....

     
    When you save a new project, the dialog box gives you the option to overwrite the folder name or to save in a different place. You could easily save all your test projects in a single folder if you wish.

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