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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 3:37 PM
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I think there is an issue with how the new theme displays on a few systems. Everyone of the complaints I have read do not appear on my system. Recall with the LP remake and how a very few had blank windows.
+1 I don't know why this is so important to me. It could be my ever-failing eyesight or what ever aesthetic sensibilities I have, but I love Tungsten. I have so many indelible memories of upgrading to X1 and being depressed by the "new" look before I really started having any problems with that version, period. I was on X2 for very little time before X3, hit and after over a 5 hour download I just thought this just "this is so ugly". Duckbar really helped me during those times, but there were issues... I'm pleased.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 3:48 PM
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This is how mine look- both Mercury + Tungsten   Im very pleased with the outcome. The Tungsten theme is soooo much easier on the eyes when working late night on projects.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 3:57 PM
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☄ Helpfulby VariousArtist May 21, 16 5:26 PM
Yeah, they both look about the same here.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 3:57 PM
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Hmm. I think the track colour not covering the whole strip is a bit of a drawback.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 5:09 PM
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Do the colors lock in for a track - i.e. a new clip is recorded on a track and it retains the colors selected for that track (instead of having to change each clip at a time). I hope I am explaining this well enough.
yes, once you change the color of your track the wave form is the same color.
but the whole track does not change color as it did in mercury. there is a strip (next to the WAI strip)
im used to it now and like this version/tungsten way better then old iron sides mercury.
The Tungsten theme is WAAAY better for me. Much easier to see what's on or off at a glance, and easier on the eyes too. That being said I wish I could get the track colour applied the way it works in the (original) Mercury theme. Hopefully these things can be applied in part as well as the whole. Very promising overall
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 5:09 PM
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Hmm. I think the track colour not covering the whole strip is a bit of a drawback.
I thought the same at first John, but after a while, you get used to it. even though the WAI strip is right there (for us control surface guys) but like I said, to be honest, ive got used to it already. you can always use Mercury if you want all colored strips) as that hasn't changed (colors still cover all the track) VariousArtist
The Tungsten theme is WAAAY better for me. Much easier to see what's on or off at a glance, and easier on the eyes too. That being said I wish I could get the track colour applied the way it works in the (original) Mercury theme. Hopefully these things can be applied in part as well as the whole.
Very promising overall I feel the same way. hopefully a future update will bring us joy joy. it is freakin amazing though what a new skin will do hu ? its like using a totally new DAW. I couldn't be happier
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 5:12 PM
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for you guys with the light colored tabs. -are you using a template ? -are these pre existing projects ? -have you tried to cold boot your PC those are a few things I would try. I know the last one sounds stupid but it just might help. try using a new project (opening a new project) try using the default templates (sonar templates) I know this might sound inconvenient if it works but this will at least let cake narrow it down. even though im sure they don't need your help or mine 
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 5:15 PM
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John T
Hmm. I think the track colour not covering the whole strip is a bit of a drawback.
+1 Although I see this fits the theme better.......maybe just the "groove of the fader-cap" or the "fader-cap" itself could be lit in the chosen track colour.......
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 6:22 PM
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The one thing I don't much like is the drop-down menus in Track and Console views - you know, View, Options, Tracks, Clips, MIDI, Region FX... and in Console, Modules, Strips, Track, Bus, Options. I don't know what the designer was going for but they are barely legible here. And unless I'm missing something obvious, I can't see where it's possible to change them in the Color preferences. Anyone else seeing this, or know how to change them if it's possible?
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Not sure I'm misunderstanding something but the drop down menus are white so stand out as good as anything over the dark background. Looks like there is no difference to the old menus to me.
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Hmm. Now that you mention it... I looked at the screen grabs posted in other threads and you're right, they look fine. Unfortunately mine look like this:
Any ideas? Did I get a corrupt download somehow? Seems a bit odd since everything else works...
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In colour preferences there's a drop down that says bright, dark, mono, etc and changing that setting will change the visibility of those items you can't see. I went through and tried all the options because I also couldn't see those headers at first. Give that a shot before looking for larger problems..
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 6:39 PM
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Not sure you mean by colored strips. What I am referring to is having a color assigned to a track, both background and foreground, and having every new clip recorded on that track, without having to select again for the new clip.
I thought the same at first John, but after a while, you get used to it.
even though the WAI strip is right there (for us control surface guys)
but like I said, to be honest, ive got used to it already.
you can always use Mercury if you want all colored strips)
as that hasn't changed (colors still cover all the track)
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 7:13 PM
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My only issue with Mercury was I could not tell which Inserts were active in console view. Still, looking forward to this returning journey of themes and UI customization.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 7:48 PM
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☄ Helpfulby John May 21, 16 8:16 PM
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Really??? Is it so hard to make the text contrast with its background? I can't believe you put all this work into this nice new color scheme and forget these little details.
Mine are fine (they are dark letters on a light back ground)
your post is really a bit of a downer and negative don't you think???
I typically find its worth checking with others before jumping to conclusions.
I know your a good guy Lynn. but don't be on the defense man. have some faith.
someone did just mentioned this a few comments before yours.
see this post:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3420434
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3420543
and see Keith's post 2 before mine)
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3420466
I cant be sure but its worth a try. also remove any custom colors you already have now
(don't forget to back up your color scheme)
good luck
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 10:52 PM
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I agree with M@ above: If the Bakers could code the fader caps to match the colour chosen for the track, you wouldn't have to keep glancing down to be sure you were working with the correct track all the time ("Am I adjusting the volume of track #54, guitar (green) or track #55, drums (reddish)? I'd better look yet again.") I'm hoping that wouldn't be very difficult to implement (?) and make things a little easier, which is always good :) Besides, it would look pretty flippin' cool!
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 21, 16 11:05 PM
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I agree with M@ above:
If the Bakers could code the fader caps to match the colour chosen for the track, you wouldn't have to keep glancing down to be sure you were working with the correct track all the time ("Am I adjusting the volume of track #54, guitar (green) or track #55, drums (reddish)? I'd better look yet again.")
I'm hoping that wouldn't be very difficult to implement (?) and make things a little easier, which is always good :)
Besides, it would look pretty flippin' cool!
ya I can agree with that. to be honest though, after working with just the track strips colored today. you get totally used to it. the color is still there. its just at the bottom and a lot smaller. things also seemed more defined without the whole track being green, or yellow. there are also more colors to pick from now.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 22, 16 0:13 PM
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Hi chuckebaby, I agree that you can get used to it (like the Irishman said, "One can get used to anything, even being hanged", but I suspect he was quite a difficult Irishman), however, I also think that having the fader caps follow the chosen track colour would satisfy not only: 1) those of us (old, pernickety, vision impaired, perpetually impatient, habitually confused, etc.) who would like the work process to go as easily and smoothly as possible, but also: 2) those of us (fashionistae, cool as a fresh breeze, visual thinkers, cutting edgers, etc.) who would prefer that the beauty of the whole strip not be ruined by colour marring its entire marvellous darkness (but only a tiny but useful portion thereof) :) LJ
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 22, 16 1:44 AM
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What I am referring to is having a color assigned to a track, both background and foreground, and having every new clip recorded on that track, without having to select again for the new clip.
It has always been like that since X3, and a few people posted a feature request to bring back the option to specify track colors that affect both existing and new clips.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 22, 16 1:49 AM
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Hmm. I think the track colour not covering the whole strip is a bit of a drawback.
I thought the same at first John, but after a while, you get used to it.
I agree with John, and in my case I know that I won't get used to it, because for the first few months after its launch, Studio One 3 (that look quite similar to the Tungsten theme) didn't have the option to colorize the whole strip in the track view, and I didn't get used to it.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 22, 16 4:54 AM
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Yeah, it's just less functional. With the whole strip coloured, it's an at-a-glance thing. Without it, it's not. It's not really a question of getting used to it, unless you mean "you can get used to it being slower to read". Well, sure, but I don't want to. You can get used to having your arm in plaster, it's still not as good as a freely movable non-broken arm.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 22, 16 7:14 AM
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Yeah, it's just less functional. With the whole strip coloured, it's an at-a-glance thing. Without it, it's not. It's not really a question of getting used to it, unless you mean "you can get used to it being slower to read". Well, sure, but I don't want to. You can get used to having your arm in plaster, it's still not as good as a freely movable non-broken arm.
john, no one wants to have colors back in the strips more then I. trust me on that one. but I can honestly say that not having the strips full color doesn't slow me down at all. its more of a convenience and a very good one at that. but back when they first went to color strips, did you really think you shaved time off your projects ? or was it more of just a "this is a great feature to have. because to be honest, with track names, icons, and general location its not that hard to really know where you are in a project. even with 50 tracks. please don't get me wrong though, I really want the color strips back myself just like you. Im also hoping for customization in the future with skins, or what have you. so hopefully they re think the color tracks and add them back in. PS- your broken arm comparison is redicules
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 22, 16 11:27 PM
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I done the rollback and I do not have a theme option under/ Edit/ preference / customization.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 0:21 PM
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I done the rollback and I do not have a theme option under/ Edit/ preference / customization.
go to help / about, what version does it say you are running (and which version of sonar do you have ?) this for platinum. Myronn, you should fill in your signature, it would help with asking/looking for help 
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 4:42 AM
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To update, from my side...
I got a proposed fix in a PM from Bill Jackson, which I ran and it worked, the menus now display properly. I also sent back a results file from the process, so they have that too. I don't know if Bill also contacted the others with the problem in this thread, but not only are they aware of it, they know what the issue is and have a fix. Maybe this will ship with the official release, maybe not, I obviously can't say, but just to let people know, there is a real issue that affects some systems, and it's being fixed. I guess that's how this early access system is supposed to work! Yay!
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 7:02 AM
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Any available changelog of that early update?
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 9:36 AM
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Is this theme for platinum only? About to get Sonar Professional after being at Pro Tools for some years.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 12:24 AM
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☄ Helpfulby tnipe May 23, 16 12:53 AM
Since it's the only major new feature for this release, and the Skylight GUI is common to all versions, I would think Themes must be available in all flavors.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 1:20 PM
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Those of you having trouble viewing the new theme, try changing your screen settings. You may find the theme works fine at a different setting which indicates an issue with the way the theme is interacting with your graphics driver.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 4:47 PM
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Hi Chuck, I'm have Sonar Platinum ver 22.4.0. build 27 [2016.04] -64. when I try to do the rollback on early access the files download then I click to install them and the roll back does not happen the version and build remain the same as above.
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 5:36 PM
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Really you all? Really? You would mess up a beautiful, wonderful, gorgeous theme just so you wouldn't have to look like three inches from the fader to the bottom of the mixer? OMG! :)
This year I've had my problems with Sonar (unlike last year). Heck, the new plug-ins don't even work on my system because of a graphics problem. Now that's a REAL problem and I expressed my disappointment. But I can't complain a bit about this new theme especially when the old one is still available if I didn't like this one.
We can name a channel, add a color AND a big a** icon of the exact instrument we're working with. I see no reason to complain about this new theme aside from the ones who can't see the text properly. The idea of having the color on the volume wouldn't hurt the theme and would look cool I guess but I'd rather CW concentrate on getting (MY) demands met! Just kidding!
Seriously though, I give credit where its due. The last update for me was an "F"! This is an "A"! And think about it, even with the whole channel "blue" for drums, are you working on the snare or the kick or toms...? I still have to look down. Just having some fun with you guys and gals! Peace :)
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 8:40 PM
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I really like the theme. However I've noticed one 'glitch' which appears to be related to a graphic bug? When a track is playing and I move the track slider to see a different section of the track, the image of the track distorts, jumps around etc, making the viewing of that section of the track unreadable. Music is not affected by this. If the track is stopped, moving the slider to a different section of the track is fine. This graphic distortion only occurs when the track is playing. This did not happen with the original theme. Not a deal-breaker though, but I was wondering if any other users of this theme experience this 'bug'?
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Re: 2016.5 is up for the Early Version
May 23, 16 8:41 PM
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brundlefly
Since it's the only major new feature for this release, and the Skylight GUI is common to all versions, I would think Themes must be available in all flavors.
I've seen some write here that it's for platinum users only, but I can't find any info on it from Cakewalk. Would appriaciate some official word on it before I pull the trigger on Sonar Professional.
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