Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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2018.06 update is now available!
This release contains toolbar enhancements for the PRV and staff views, a new sandbox mode for more stable VST scanning as well as numerous bug fixes. To get this update open BandLab assistant and you should get an update notification. The full changelog is here. Check out the new features here.
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 12:29:46
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]a new sandbox mode for more stable VST scanning
wahey! 
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 12:31:07
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Yes the 2 new options in the vst scan settings are not bad.
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
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Yes the 2 new options in the vst scan settings are not bad.
but do they help?
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They are helpful if you suffer from scanning problems to be sure.
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 12:40:07
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hummmm-_-!! why change the controller drawing behavior? "In previous versions of Cakewalk, the default Smart tool  behavior was to always allow moving/resizing of individual data points when the mouse hovered over them, which made it impossible to draw new data without switching to the Draw tool  ." actually there's a way to draw in smart tool.that is press ctrl+alt.and you are free to draw. now I have to switch to another tool to move the data points. In old version.eveything can be done in smart tool.
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
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They are helpful if you suffer from scanning problems to be sure.
is it just for the scanning or also "in action"? because if they can stop a crashing vst crashing the host...
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To me the way it reads it's for the scanning process.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 12:52:25
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2018/06/29 12:59:59
Sandboxed scanning is only for VstScan when it is run from Preferences | VST. It doesn't sandbox plugins themselves at run time. While it could be useful its a much more difficult to do properly and sandboxing plugins at runtime actually can cause additional compatibility issues with some plugins as we have seen with BitBridge.
The VstScan sandboxing runs each plugin in a private sandbox mainly to prevent them from corrupting the rest of the scan. It has already solved many problems in our tests including making scanning plugins like Waves more trouble free.
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 13:04:10
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] plugins like Waves
which others did you test? care to share?
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Sandboxed scanning is only for VstScan when it is run from Preferences | VST. It doesn't sandbox plugins themselves at run time. While it could be useful its a much more difficult to do properly and sandboxing plugins at runtime actually can cause additional compatibility issues with some plugins as we have seen with BitBridge.
Just to be clear, this is an option/tool to use "if" you have an issue during the VST scanning process to isolate any offending plugins? You would not keep this enabled as a default? I have the option enabled to auto scan for new VST's each time SONAR opens. So in this scenario, I should keep this new Sandboxed scanning disabled until there is a need to use it? I want to be sure I am using this new feature in the most optimum and correct way. Thanks Noel and keep up the great work on CbB!
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 13:06:32
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FWIW it seems to be on by default.
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Matron Landslide
FWIW it seems to be on by default.
so waves work 
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 15:30:07
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Sandboxed scanning is only for VstScan when it is run from Preferences | VST. It doesn't sandbox plugins themselves at run time. While it could be useful its a much more difficult to do properly and sandboxing plugins at runtime actually can cause additional compatibility issues with some plugins as we have seen with BitBridge.
Just to be clear, this is an option/tool to use "if" you have an issue during the VST scanning process to isolate any offending plugins? You would not keep this enabled as a default? I have the option enabled to auto scan for new VST's each time SONAR opens. So in this scenario, I should keep this new Sandboxed scanning disabled until there is a need to use it? I want to be sure I am using this new feature in the most optimum and correct way.
Thanks Noel and keep up the great work on CbB!
Hi Billy, The option is on by default so that most users will have a good experience when scanning plugins out of the box. This is one of the common technical support issues so its best this way. Its very hard to troubleshoot scanning issues since data corruption may be caused by any prior plugin in the scan process - most often the plugin that exhibits the problem during scanning isn't the culprit itself but is more susceptible to the corruption. There is really very little overhead with this feature since the sandbox only kicks in when its actually scanning a plugin. i.e if scan on startup is on we don't do any work unless a new plugin is detected so the sandbox scan will never run.
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Great job TEAM! The program is in the best shape that I can remember! Keep up the great work and keep chipping away at the bugs! Stability is priority #1!
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 16:02:41
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Any TLC to the PRV is greatly appreciated and both the VST scan enhancements and the improved continuous controller drawing are great features. Add to that the long list of bug fixes and I must say that I’m impressed with what such a small development team can do in just a month. Thank you both Noel and Ben.
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 17:03:31
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Hi Billy,
The option is on by default so that most users will have a good experience when scanning plugins out of the box. This is one of the common technical support issues so its best this way. Its very hard to troubleshoot scanning issues since data corruption may be caused by any prior plugin in the scan process - most often the plugin that exhibits the problem during scanning isn't the culprit itself but is more susceptible to the corruption.
There is really very little overhead with this feature since the sandbox only kicks in when its actually scanning a plugin. i.e if scan on startup is on we don't do any work unless a new plugin is detected so the sandbox scan will never run.
Thanks for the clarification Noel!
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2018/06/29 17:16:31
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] plugins like Waves
which others did you test? care to share?
While I do not have any Waves plug-ins the new sandbox scanning is still beneficial. Just ran a VST reset. In the past there were always a couple of plug-ins that threw an error message (I would always enable the plug-ins anyway) and Z3ta+2 would hang the scanner. Now the reset runs to completion without error.
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
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hummmm-_-!! why change the controller drawing behavior? "In previous versions of Cakewalk, the default Smart tool behavior was to always allow moving/resizing of individual data points when the mouse hovered over them, which made it impossible to draw new data without switching to the Draw tool ." actually there's a way to draw in smart tool.that is press ctrl+alt.and you are free to draw. now I have to switch to another tool to move the data points. In old version.eveything can be done in smart tool. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have another thought. This change is very comportable for smooth drwaing (control data) like X3 or sonar 8.If we do as you said, then we must endure the inconvenience below: 1) Aafter we change to Draw tools for drawing the control, then we must turn off 'Sanp Option' for smooth line. 2) And we must change to Smart tool for entering the notes and turn on the 'Snap Option' again.
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2018/06/29 17:26:07
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Thank you, Mr. Noel~
This new update is the most complete state that I remember from all of the old Cakewalks.
Now, I can start making my educational videos with this new Cakewalk.
In my country I have many readers for my book and video, they will watch the merits of Cakewalk~
Thak you again~
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
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Just when my download allotment for the month ran out! I see a midnight download on July 1 in my future!
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 17:51:30
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Thank you very much for this update :)
Sandboxing even only VST scanning should be great improvement against strange things happened when scanning crashed :) I like this direction :)
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 19:59:24
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Thanks for the scan log. I always think.... I should write down or remember that one, oh and that one, and that one too, and delete the dlls from the folders.
Now I can.
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Re: 2018.06 update is now available!
2018/06/29 20:57:05
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Great to see the note options are back in staff view. Now, if I can just get the darn thing to update!
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2018/06/29 21:26:55
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Thank you CbB development team for this great new version! I really like the new feature with the duration buttons and the new plugin scan improvements. And it is great that you spent a lot of time working on stability!
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Thank you thank you for notation duration icons!!!!! This really moves the program back to the academic use!!!!!
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