23.976

Does the 8.5 upgrade add support for 23.976 frames per second ?

23.976 is becoming a common requirement for post production.
No, it's not the same as 24 fps drop frame.

Plenty of info here  http://www.24p.com
especially http://www.24p.com/downloads/23-24.zip

What if I want to work at 60fps, can I use one of the 30fps options and somehow make it work that way?

Sorry, but I want to get into scoring and don't know much about this kind of workflow.  I find it much easier to work the other way around (i.e. make the video fit the music) using an NLE.

Thanks!

Here's the G-Spot screenshot (worth 1000 words :-P)

rhythminmind


I would guess that it's sonars audio import process.
I would try exporting the audio from a 3rd party app then importing that into Sonar as a test.
Try something like
http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-win.html
A must have free video utility

I have Premier Pro CS4, is that good?

Dave Allison


Does the 8.5 upgrade add support for 23.976 frames per second ?

23.976 is becoming a common requirement for post production.
No, it's not the same as 24 fps drop frame.

Plenty of info here  http://www.24p.com/
especially http://www.24p.com/downloads/23-24.zip

Just out of pure ignorance on the subject, why would you want to use 23.976 instead of 24?

OK,

I re-exported the audio to uncompressed wave format (48KHz/16bit).

SMPTE in both Adobe and Sonar match exactly on the video side (00:01:00:26) at 30fps.  I had to set the project to 30fps in Adobe (even though the video is 60fps) to match the SMPTE time in Sonar. 

As you said, the MP3 file drifted a bit cause now both audio files match perfectly.  They both also end with the video.  But, the weird part is that, if I pause and play the video from any spot, the audio will be in sync.  However, if I let the video play from start to finish, it will lose sync fast.  Stop it at any spot and play again, audio and video are back in sync.  Just weird.

Any ideas?

Jose7822

OK,

I re-exported the audio to uncompressed wave format (48KHz/16bit).

SMPTE in both Adobe and Sonar match exactly on the video side (00:01:00:26) at 30fps.  I had to set the project to 30fps in Adobe (even though the video is 60fps) to match the SMPTE time in Sonar. 

As you said, the MP3 file drifted a bit cause now both audio files match perfectly.  They both also end with the video.  But, the weird part is that, if I pause and play the video from any spot, the audio will be in sync.  However, if I let the video play from start to finish, it will lose sync fast.  Stop it at any spot and play again, audio and video are back in sync.  Just weird.

Any ideas?

Jose:

I am in the same boat as you - same software and issues - I thought of something as I was reading your post.  Print the Timecode on the export from Premier and let's see how Sonar's clock and the print on the Premier render match

-D

My apologies for how the above post came out.  This forum software is just awesome .

Anyways, what I did was first make sure that I had the same time code (29.97 FPS in this case), and sample rate in all projects.  Sonar's project bit rate was set to 24 bit, which differs from the original file, but that's not really important as it doesn't affect the results.  Then I exported the audio from the video in Premier to Uncompressed Wave format at 48 KHz/16 bit, and proceeded to do the same in Sonar by exporting the audio only to Broadcast Wave at 48 KHz/16bit (no dithering).

Re-imported both files into Sonar, again making sure I kept the same time code throughout, and the screenshot is the result.  I think we can conclude that Sonar's time code is OK.  J/K :-P, it's perfect! :-)


Take care!



P.S.  Again Rhythm, thanks so much for your help.  Have a good one man!