32 bit and 64 bit plug ins

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2011/03/31 20:27:07 (permalink)

32 bit and 64 bit plug ins

hello,
i am uncertain of the difference between 32 and 64 bit plug ins. in my limited understanding, 64 bit operating systems allow for much greater ram whereas x32 oper systems are limited to 4 gigs. how does this affect a plug in or soft synth?

this seems relevant since a lot of x32 stuff is being sold off very inexpensively lately. i assume that is because 64 bit versions are on the way.

what are the pros and cons for someone running sonar x1 x64 with the choice of a particular plug in or soft synth in either 32 or 64 versions?

thanks,
matt

edit: please excuse me if this topic has been discussed already. i searched and could not find direct answers.
post edited by M@ B - 2011/03/31 20:29:23

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    bapu
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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/03/31 20:44:39 (permalink)
    You can run 32bit plugs in a 64bit OS but it requires bitbridge or jbridge.

    Sadly some plugs don't perform in this scenario.
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    M@ B
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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/04/01 00:22:10 (permalink)
    thanks bapu. is the need for a 'bridge' the only difference between the 32 and 64 bit versions of the same plug in? is it just a stability issue or is there an audible difference as well?

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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/04/01 00:32:39 (permalink)
    At the moment I only use 32bit plugs in a 32bit OS but as I understand it a 64bit plug probably won't sound any better but rompler plugs (with large samples) will load using more memory ina 64bit OS.

    Others would need to weigh in on whether plugs like a compressor or EQ should/would/could sound better because of 64bit processing/drivers. I suspect not.

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    M@ B
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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/04/01 00:56:03 (permalink)
    i'm concerned that instability would make 80% savings become a 20% waste of money.

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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/04/01 01:09:24 (permalink)
    There will not be a difference in sound.
     
    Stability depends on the plugin. If you are refering to the Miroslave CE offer you have recently posted about. I can say its very stable for me using bitbridge, as is IK' Sample tank.

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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/04/01 01:23:19 (permalink)
    thanks glyn, miroslov is a concern and t-racks is also, as are many of these deeply discounted plug ins and synths that are popping up almost everyday. that kind of thing usually only happens in the retail world when they're trying to unload soon to be antiquated stuff.
    post edited by M@ B - 2011/04/01 01:25:40

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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/04/01 01:38:10 (permalink)
    M@ B


    thanks glyn, miroslov is a concern and t-racks is also, as are many of these deeply discounted plug ins and synths that are popping up almost everyday. that kind of thing usually only happens in the retail world when they're trying to unload soon to be antiquated stuff.


    There is a post that indicated 64 bit versions of T-Racks will be released soon. http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2266716

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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/04/01 02:12:29 (permalink)
    thanks for the link.

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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/04/02 22:23:29 (permalink)
    Yup 64 bit is coming out this Month for AmpliTube with our 3.5 update. After that T-Racks and a few other surprises in the future as well. :D    

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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/04/03 01:39:58 (permalink)
    hello ik obi,
    is there any word on the cost of upgrade from 32 to 64 bit?

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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/05/21 00:25:51 (permalink)
    Yeh but will these new 64-bit versions be able to run on a 32-bit OS?  Or do these come with a 32-bit installer, similar to Sonar.


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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/05/21 08:05:25 (permalink)
    In reality,if you have a 32bit OS,  or if you have a 64bit OS and are afraid of compatibility issues, then use the 32 bit version of the plugin.

    If you have 64bit OS, use the 64bit version (for greater access to memory etc). If no 64bit version available, paniuc not, use the 32bit under Bitbridge or, if necessary jBridge.

    BTW, jBridge can also do 64bit to 32bit. Confusing, ain't it

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    Re:32 bit and 64 bit plug ins 2011/05/21 22:14:34 (permalink)
    syntheticpop


    Yeh but will these new 64-bit versions be able to run on a 32-bit OS?  Or do these come with a 32-bit installer, similar to Sonar.


    IK's installers give you the option of installing 32 or 64 bit.
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