32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS???

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2017/06/10 15:26:08 (permalink)

32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS???

Hi,
Whenever I try to use one of the 32-bit instruments in my 64-bit Sonar Platinum, the audio breaks up. As in, stutters, pops, clicks etc. Though, I have not tried them all.

Can you not use the 32-bit instruments with my 64 bit Windows 10 Pro?

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    Cactus Music
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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/11 15:09:36 (permalink)
    I think most of us have moved on and avoid 32 plug ins. Only one I still have and it works fine is Mr Tramp. I have now  found 64 bit replacements for any of my old 32 bit plugs and VST's 
    My latest purchase of Air Complete expand pack for $60 at JRR shop has hugely made 32 bit obsolete for me and I will remove even my beloved Mr Tramp. 
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/AIR-Complete-Upgrade-m3610426.aspx
     
     

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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/11 17:00:01 (permalink)
    BR,
     
    What you are experiencing is fairly normal. You could try jbridge (at a co$t). Some say that helps "certain" 32bit plugs more than bitbridge.
     
    Like Johnny says most of us have moved on to 32bit plug free systems. I still have a few installed for compatibility until I re-open the project and then implement the 64bit version if it's not automatically replaced (which SONAR does a pretty good job of doing).
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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 14:32:26 (permalink)
    Thanks guys!
    Okay, well that brings up the next question:
    How do you go about removing unwanted instruments/plugins?

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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 14:58:36 (permalink)
    BassRocket
    Thanks guys!
    Okay, well that brings up the next question:
    How do you go about removing unwanted instruments/plugins?



    Most should have an uninstaller and can be removed through Add/Remove Programs or Programs and Features in your Windows Control Panel depending on your version of Windows. There's also Settings > Apps in Windows 10 -- just click on an app and you will see an uninstall button.
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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 15:21:58 (permalink)
    Okay thanks!!
    I'll check it out!

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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 15:44:32 (permalink)
    It also depends on the VST or Plug in. Some used full installers but a lot of them were just a drag and drop dll file. 
     
    So what I would do is open Sonar and open the plug in manager and make notes of what you have. I think there is a (32) beside those.  If not the 32's show as yellow on my VST list in the browser and if you go to insert an audio effect too I think there's a (32) beside those. 
     
    Then you can go to Windows Programs and Features and un install those first, 
    Then I would open your plug in and VST folders and just manually delete them. But having a list will help for sure. 
     
    Like I say the only one I still have is Mr Tramp and I will leave it because as said above that way If I open a project that uses it It won't freak out. I went through my plug ins a year or so ago and deleted everything that said 32 bit. 
    I have 5 folders where they get parked for some reason but the Plug in Manager will list those locations. 

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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 17:35:07 (permalink)
    That's cool!
    I'll totally try that!
    Thanks!

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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 19:38:55 (permalink)
    While it is probably best to move on in most cases, it is not a hard and fast rule.  If you encounter a problem plugin, the answer is obvious.
     
    But I have a few 32-bit VSTi plugins that work fine in Platinum 64-bit.  I keep Tone2 Firebird around because it was never upgraded to 64-bit, but it's unique and I like the sound.  There are also a few legacy Cakewalk instruments that never made the trip to 64-bit, but they still seem to work OK.
     
    Fyi, you can also install the 32-bit version of Sonar side by side with 64-bit Sonar, which is another good way to keep your older plugins working if you wish.  I have both versions on my PC, and try to keep the 32-bit stuff separate this way.  This is a good way to open up older projects that may use the older plugins.

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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 20:13:19 (permalink)
    I use them ALL the time! Without problems...

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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 20:26:31 (permalink)
    eikelbijter
    I use them ALL the time! Without problems...

    R




    As do I, but it really depends on the plug-in, though. There's 32-bit Cakewalk plug-ins that don't load in 64-bit Sonar.
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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 20:45:31 (permalink)
    Does anyone know how to get ahold of tech support. All of a sudden can not play back songs I recorded last week. I have Sonar Platinum and Focusrite 18i8. It crashed and when I restarted it, I get the message "Unable to open audio record device. Device may not support the current project' audio format.I followed the directions that the FAQ gave me and still no luck. Imput drivers; Device settings are all checked Focusrite usb 2.0 audio driver... Out put Drivers: Focusrite USB 2.0Driver mon 1 ...Hp1l and so on...Record timing master: Focusrite USB2.0. Sample rate 44100. playback and recording: Driver mode ASIO.
    I have been trying to email anyone for help but I cannot find an email address for cakewalk support. How do you get help when the FAQs don't help?
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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/12 20:52:27 (permalink)
    David Mitchell
    Does anyone know how to get ahold of tech support. All of a sudden can not play back songs I recorded last week. I have Sonar Platinum and Focusrite 18i8. It crashed and when I restarted it, I get the message "Unable to open audio record device. Device may not support the current project' audio format.I followed the directions that the FAQ gave me and still no luck. Imput drivers; Device settings are all checked Focusrite usb 2.0 audio driver... Out put Drivers: Focusrite USB 2.0Driver mon 1 ...Hp1l and so on...Record timing master: Focusrite USB2.0. Sample rate 44100. playback and recording: Driver mode ASIO.
    I have been trying to email anyone for help but I cannot find an email address for cakewalk support. How do you get help when the FAQs don't help?




    You'll want to start a new thread if you're looking for support here on the forum.
     
    You can email Cakewalk Technical Support here: http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Email
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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/13 10:59:39 (permalink)
    You can also run the 32 bit version of Sonar side by side with the 64 bit.

    Check in your Command Centre download folder(defined in the paths page of CCC) and double click the latest Sonar installer.

    At some given point you'll be given an option to install 32 or 64 bit version. Choose 32 bit.

    It will be installed by default in the C:\Program Files (x86\ Cakewalk\. Folder

    For best organisation keep your 32 bit and 64 bit plugins seperate. And direct the appropriate Sonar version to the appropriate Plugin folder.

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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/13 14:59:36 (permalink)
    Try installing the 64bit versions if available, otherwise, JBridge will probably be your best option.

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    Re: 32-bit Plugins with 64-bit OS??? 2017/06/14 02:34:41 (permalink)
    Wow, thanks everyone!
    I'm considering dumping the 32-bit stuff now. There seems to be enough cool 64-bit plugins that come with Sonar Platinum as it is, right?
    I'm going to start another post about Folder management, as I have questions about how Sonar finds everything.
    Thanks again everyone!
     

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