49 - 6th and final remix 5/16

Crosby Stills and who?
 
I'm doing everything. I would appreciate feedback on the mix. I got it as good as I can get it, but I'm not "that guy..." A lot of TLC went in to this one.
 
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Robby,
 
Quite an ambitious undertaking.   Vocal performances are spot on.   Overall it is pretty good but some of the levels are off to me.  I think the LV
is too low and disappears in a few spots, some of the harmonies are too loud.  The organ is a bit too loud, in a few spots when it gets more percussive it really pops out too far.  I like the sound of the organ and the performace is good, it seems to be too forward in the mix though.  Drums could come up a bit too.   I would put the drums in a much smaller space for a vocal centric song like this, there is a bit too much reverb.   Guitar sounds good.  Bass could use a bit of 2-4k boost to help it pop through.
 
 
BGV could be layered a bit more.   I would double all the BGV tracks, HPF a little bit higher on the copy and push 5k a bit and mix in to blend with the original.  That would give it some more depth and clarity.  Make sure you run all the BGV through the same bus to give them the same spacial feel.  Something like this I would mix all the vocal levels first and then bring the instruments up, drums last... 
 
Well done though, very enjoyable listen.  Wish I could sing half as good as you do...
 
Regards

Cool song and great performance, Robby. As mentioned there are some mix issues. To me it sounds like many of the levels are too high and you are clipping, but the song is not very loud. I also hear compressor pumping or something very much like it(when the drums kick it up, they actually get softer).

great performances Robby, the keyboarding, guitaring and especially the singing is awesome. I agree with the above that as a mix overall it feels almost smothered, like you recorded this awesome band playing in the rehearsal space next door. not sure what happened there, whether you have delibrately tried to get a vintage sound to the mix, or it's the mp3 conversion...

I agree, the mix needs some work, but the performances are expert... I haven't heard this tune in many years... always loved CSN, and I think they would love to hear this...
Great work on a very ambitious project...

Yeah, not a bad singer at all.  :)  Love hearing that bass too.  

I'm afraid even I can hear some issues...sounds like these guys can help though.

And I hate mixing too.  

Ambitious is right.  Wow!!  

I think there are great performances here, but honestly the mix is so distracting I can't get my arms around it.

It needs some glue.

Hey Robby-
    Great performance and cover of the song!

   As far as the mix, I am also hearing clipping, especially near the beginning.  The drums sounded odd to me, like maybe they were squashed too much.  I like Bapu's idea of adding some verb/delay/space.  Keep woykin it, and it will keepa gettin' betta!

    Nice choice on CSN!

Hi there Robby

Some superb performances going on here, topped as usual by your wonderful singing.

You have real talent, and it shines through on this ambitious project.

Robby,
Vocal performances are good.
Not my favorite of other things you have done. The drums do not seem to fit as well as they could.

Robby, your vocal skills are really impressive. You really rocked this tune and vibe. I am very impressed. Sincerely I am having a hard time figuring out what is going wrong with this track. I think I would need to hear a version with no bass just so I could hear the rest of it cleanly.

The wave looks good. Nice and clean.....yeah...sexy too. So what I'm hearing isn't coming from a compressed or clipped wave. 

I just listened to the latest version of this on my lappy with my good buds.  Man.... I an still hearing distortion on that organ and now since I can hear the mix better, I hear it on the vocals too. 

It sounds like it's on the highs.... like a tape saturation that is just over the edge of too much. 

The musicianship and vocals are excellent. I have no problem with that aspect. 

I don't put the saturation on the mains because that nails everything. I will use it on vocals or guitar...and sparingly at that. You can probably just delete it or shut it off and export again.... that would probably solve it....

Pay close attention to that B3 though because I heard something distorting there. It might be the sat plug... maybe not. Only you know for sure. 

bandontherun19


Ok ok, but we all know I'm a moron on the mixing? So now "it's official..." 

So I already had some sat on the guitars, and the keys were saturated, but then I was doin it to the whole mix? Ok, yes, bad move. But? GOOD CATCH HERB!!! :-)

I yanked it down. And instead used a sat plug (voxengo varisat) on the drums as they wern't affected. I also then monkied w/the drums? And Per Shad, pulled the bass back a bit? The bass is still in your face? But the bass "rocks..." And the song needs it? But I did pull it down a bit.

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Let me say again... When it comes to the mix? I am not that guy, I know this comes as a huge shock to some? 

However, I want to give a hale and hearty "Ooooo Rawwww!" To the forum for helping people like me, and so many others?

I put up mix 4 based on feedback, and "I think?" It's getting close to where James won't kick me in the nads? And the closer I can get to that point? The happier I am!!

This reminds me of that first long night in prison "in so many ways..."

The most compelling reason is the lyric, "I'm down on my knees, nobody left to please?"

Well that's it, Tanton's comment made my freaking weekend (which lasted until today...) When I post a song? I like to do it over the weekend, and then take Monday off? Maybe Tuesday?  to obsess? And tweak? I'm printing this one off and then? Well... If it's not glossy when I post it on the wall? It soon will be... 

(I'm sorry for that right there Lord? And please be with the Pygmies in New Guinnea...)


I'm surprised none of you guitar players commented on my e-bow? :-) I make extensive use of it from the middle to the end of the tune. It whistles? And then screams down! EeeeeAaaaoooo! Ebow's are fricken cool! :-) And They definitely used them on the cover. That and no one commented on the speed that I slipped my drummer in his coffee before we had him track this? That' guy was "out of control!!" LOL!

Still in all though, this would have sucked donkey without the input I received... Heck, it may still? But it's a smaller donkey? And he gets his business over in a much more timely manner...
 
Again, I can't thank everyone enough, and I will do so starting tomorrow.
 
The value of participating here, and when I say participating? I don't mean "posting..." I mean participating. And the value of said participation is, well... Thank you all... It's "extremely valuable..."