Mooch4056
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50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
This song has the PERFECT drum mix and sound ever. This is the standard we should all strive to achieve in our drum mixes sonically?
And it was recorded in the 70s and on tape
Sonically this drum mix on this song makes my loins tingle.
My 2 cents on drum mixing
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 11:34:25
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it's all about steve gadd....
and the arrangement.
the method of recording it.....
nah.
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 11:36:21
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i'd have to say the 'recording' of steely dan's "Aja", which also has steve gadd, would trump this one handily.
i'm a big paul simon fan, and steely dan fan, but an even BIGGER steve gadd fan.
my point:
you are listening to a fantastic drummer........ could have been recorded anytime, anywhere, in any decent studio, and it would have sounded pretty much the same.
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 11:44:26
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More mixing than recording...and I agree with my ol pal batsbrew...ol Steve is two hecks of a great drummer with a readily identifiable style. His recent work with James Taylore is tres fab as well.
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 11:48:34
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Well ya .... It is a good song and he is a good drummer .... But ....
Someone find me a bad song with the same drum tones and mix sonically then ... LOL
Hard to do I suppose
I still think its recorded really well
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 11:49:56
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Well Phil Ramone is no dunderhead. It WAS recorded very well indeed.
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 11:56:17
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 12:03:55
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yes, simon has always had excellent studio results, and worked with killer players.
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 12:48:37
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I'll take Bonham from Led Zep II on, Alex.
Now that's a recorded drum sound.
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 12:54:10
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i love bonhams sound on that album.
but i wouldn't put it in the 'pristine recordings' category for sure.
sounds like he's beating the sh!t out of his drums in a big hallway!!
LOL
over the years i've found that a lot of my favorite recorded drum sounds are from more obscure jazz-rock and/or fusion bands....
it's a studio-mentality approach to certain drum sounds.
i dig it.
but i also really like trashy drum sounds, when played by amazing musicians (charlie watts, ringo, moon, etc)
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 12:56:34
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I'll take Bonham from Led Zep II on, Alex.
Now that's a recorded drum sound.
Ok... You have to quit comparing yourself to Phil Romone (texts me that all the time!) Just becuase you don't think 50 ways was recorded as good as the drums on Zep II witch is a completely different style ... I think your comparing styles here ....not drum recording technique Also... As stated before ...quit texting me that you're next Phil Romone ...... K ? Maye your the next Phil Donahue ... That I could buy
post edited by Mooch4056 - 2012/10/31 12:59:04
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 12:58:57
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gadd on his sig part of "50 ways" http://youtu.be/sZZLLYEzKE8 thing about the actual studio recording, the music is so sparse, it's easy to hear the drums. what's hard, is to get amazing drum sounds to come across in a really dense mix....
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 12:59:57
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:00:00
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bapu
I'll take Bonham from Led Zep II on, Alex.
Now that's a recorded drum sound.
Ok...
You have to quit comparing yourself to Phil Romone (texts me that all the time!)
Just becuase you don't think 50 ways was recorded as good as the drums on Zep II witch is a completely different style ...
I think your comparing styles here ....not drum recording technique
Also... As stated before ...quit texting me that you're next Phil Romone ......
K ?
Maye your the next Phil Donahue ... That I could buy
Mooch, I said I thought I was the Top Ramen, not Phil Ramone.
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:00:31
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Maye your the next Phil Donahue ... That I could buy
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:02:26
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Mooch,
Top Ramen.
Because I Am a noodler.
Get it?
Sheesh, do I have to explain all my jokes to you?
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:05:45
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sounds like he's beating the sh!t out of his drums in a big hallway!!
LOL
Which is a testament the way they were recorded, no? I was under the impression the OP asked about recording technique. (even though it seems he wrongly thought my reply was about style not technique, sheesh on Mooch  )
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:06:28
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Hey Bapu ....why don't you just explain to batsbrew who Phil Donahue is ....
Then get back to the subject of quality recorded drums
Without smashing them with compression like some people I know
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:07:44
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bapu
Mooch,
Top Ramen.
Because I Am a noodler.
Get it?
Sheesh, do I have to explain all my jokes to you?
does ramen really qualify as noodles?
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:09:51
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bapu
Mooch,
Top Ramen.
Because I Am a noodler.
Get it?
Sheesh, do I have to explain all my jokes to you?
does ramen really qualify as noodles?
Oh, you may be pronouncing it wrong. I was referring to the would be 70's PØRN star 
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:12:42
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Beagle
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Mooch,
Top Ramen.
Because I Am a noodler.
Get it?
Sheesh, do I have to explain all my jokes to you?
does ramen really qualify as noodles?
Oh, you may be pronouncing it wrong.
I was referring to the would be 70's PØRN star
Ok that's it!!! You best get this thread back to..drums that were recorded well Mmmmkay?
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:12:50
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Beagle
bapu
Mooch,
Top Ramen.
Because I Am a noodler.
Get it?
Sheesh, do I have to explain all my jokes to you?
does ramen really qualify as noodles?
Oh, you may be pronouncing it wrong.
I was referring to the would be 70's PØRN star
I don't know nothin' bout no port stars...
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:14:55
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That's one o' them 'linear drumming' patterns innit? gadd on his sig part of "50 ways" http://youtu.be/sZZLLYEzKE8 Hmm, not looking too happy about it though..
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:19:24
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That's one o' them 'linear drumming' patterns innit?
gadd on his sig part of "50 ways" http://youtu.be/sZZLLYEzKE8
Hmm, not looking too happy about it though..
Mooch, do you like the hum on that video? That's some rank recording technique, IMO. They should have put that into the song, ya?
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:23:37
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What I like about the OP is that he seems to state there is only one way to mix drums.
Brilliant.
Single source production.
All future drum mixes should be done by Phil Ramone and NO ONE ELSE.
Or, at least we should all strive to achieve "Phil Ramone" <---- Straummy, see what I did there I made his name a noun adjective not a name.
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2012/10/31 13:24:15
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2012/10/31 13:25:12
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No i don't like the hum
But it's Steve Gads hum. I thought you liked his hum, er? Guess you don't like that mix then?
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:28:50
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Mooch4056
No i don't like the hum
But it's Steve Gads hum. I thought you liked his hum, er?
Guess you don't like that mix then?
Why don't you go rent a castle and use the biggest room with echo use one microphone and go record a drum set or something .... Don't forget to add tons of compression
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Re:50 ways to leave your lover ... Who agrees with me? thoughts on drum mixing
2012/10/31 13:35:17
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Mooch4056
Don't forget to add tons of compression
Thanks for the tip, but I'm gonna go get all my drums mixed by Phil Ramone from now on. He's the man I heard. The ONLY BESTEST drum mixer there ever was, roight? I still loves you like a brother from another mother Moochie my pal. Hey Mooch, has the ear bleeding stopped yet?
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2012/10/31 13:44:06
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