528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies

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528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies

Solfeggio Frequencies
I am trying to find out if Sonar has the capability to change frequencies?
THere is a theory about different frequencies and healing energies r something, and I
would like to experiment with this.
From what I can understand of this standard tunings are @ 444 Hz.
I would like to change it to 528 hz...
THere is a website that will do it for you, but I would like to know if I can do it myself in
Sonar,
Also if anyone knows if I can tune my keyboard to that frequency?
 
Any info would be helpful
I have included some more info below, as well as a link to the site that converts the music.
"tune-up" to C=528Hz (A=444Hz).
UT – 396 Hz – Liberating Guilt and Fear
RE – 417 Hz – Undoing Situations and Facilitating Change
MI – 528 Hz – Transformation and Miracles (DNA Repair)
FA – 639 Hz – Connecting/Relationships
SOL – 741 Hz – Awakening Intuition
LA – 852 Hz – Returning to Spiritual Order
http://www.528records.com/
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    daveny5
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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/15 12:45:32 (permalink)
    Standard tuning in genrally considered A=440. some orchestras such as the NY Philharmonic use A=442.      

    Here's list of all notes in the equal tempered scale.  http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html 

    For example: 396 =G4 (392) + 4 Hz. 

    With a guitar and a tuner its easy. I don't know of any synths that allow you to vary each note to a select frequency. I'll see if I can find something.  

    EDIT: Here's one, but its $100.      http://hgsounds.com/news/vst-plugins/astralis/astralis-a-and-b-vst-plugins/ 





    post edited by daveny5 - 2012/08/15 13:32:22

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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/15 14:25:58 (permalink)
    thanks for the info, Mainly I want to know if there is a way to adjust it in SONAR
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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/15 15:40:50 (permalink)
    no.

    sonar is not a synth or an instrument and cannot control all parameters of synths.

    you can adjust the frequency of most softsynths used by sonar, but there is no global "frequency adjust" in sonar.

    if you use TTS-1, for example, you can adjust anything you send to it via MIDI to a different tuning other than A=440 by opening the options in the TTS-1.





    didn't you ask this same question a couple of years ago? or was it someone else?

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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/15 15:42:16 (permalink)
    and regarding your keyboard - yes, that capability is included in most keyboards, but it would depend completely on your make/model keyboard.  that information should be in the user manual for your keyboard.

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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/16 01:46:19 (permalink)
    Just to further confuse the issue...
     
    To be clear, the idea here is that normally C=523.25 and A=440. If you tune C=528 then as a result A=444. So you do not want to tune anything to 528. Most tuning systems revolve around tuning the A, so if you tune A=444 then automatically C=528.
     
    As Beagle wrote, your keyboard most likely has the ability to set the master tuning to A=444 instead of A=440, a very subtle difference.
     
    If, on the other hand, you want to convert an existing recording, here's how to do it. If you check this page out:
    http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-centsratio.htm
    go down to Cent value-determination of an interval
     
    In Frequency f1 enter 440
    In Frequency f2 enter 444
    Then click calculate. You will see the result is 15.66738339053554 cents; this represents the difference, in cents, between A=440 and A=440. This means the music should be transposed (raised) by 0.1566738339053554 semi-tones.
     
    I don't know what effects Home Studio has but normally you can select the audio, go to Process and choose Audio Effects>Cakewalk>Pitch Shift.or if available Pitch/Time 2 (or is it Time/Pitch 2?).
     
    Enter 0.1566738339053554 (or as many digits as will fit) in the semi-tones box and OK it. It should then process the file. If Home Studio will not do this (it doesn't list Pitch Shift or Pitch/Time2 as an included plugin on the Cake site), then you could download this great shareware sound editor program (which was bought out by Adobe and is now called Audition):
    http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Editors-Recorders/Cool-Edit-Pro.shtml
     
    It will load wave files, mp3's, pretty much any audio including ripping directly from CD. It will definitely allow you to shift the pitch up. An equally good method would be to "stretch" (or in this case "shorten") audio. In other words if you speed it up exactly the right amount the pitch will also rise. In this case the difference would be negligible (a 3 minute song may change by 2 seconds or something) but it will process quicker and the results sound more natural although in either case you'd have to have great ears and do direct comparisons to notice any difference.
     
    Edited to fix weird link results
    post edited by SToons - 2012/08/16 01:56:43
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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/16 02:20:34 (permalink)
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    Just to further confuse the issue...
     
    To be clear, the idea here is that normally C=523.25 and A=440. If you tune C=528 then as a result A=444. So you do not want to tune anything to 528. Most tuning systems revolve around tuning the A, so if you tune A=444 then automatically C=528. 

    The way I read the OP, she is researching healing energies of different frequencies, not making music (in this case).
    So there are no reasons why she shouldn't tune the synths to whatever.

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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/16 03:01:22 (permalink)
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    Just to further confuse the issue...
     
    To be clear, the idea here is that normally C=523.25 and A=440. If you tune C=528 then as a result A=444. So you do not want to tune anything to 528. Most tuning systems revolve around tuning the A, so if you tune A=444 then automatically C=528. 

    The way I read the OP, she is researching healing energies of different frequencies, not making music (in this case).
    So there are no reasons why she shouldn't tune the synths to whatever.
     
    Well then I think it's understood you did not look at the link she provided. Maybe you should look at that first, read what's right in the middle of the page about Scott Huckabay, then read about what 528 rRecords does, and then see if you feel like coming back and writing the same comment. Probably not.

    If, by chance, they (OP) are interested in actual therapeutic frequencies and how they can affect states like Beta etc, they can read the Help file that comes with CoolEdit as it has batch routines to create tuned white and pink noise sessions that are documented by scientific studies to be quite effective. I've used them myself, highly recommended.
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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/16 03:58:56 (permalink)
    If you check this page and read section 10) you will see it pretty much confirns what I suspected:
    http://www.528records.com/pages/frequently-asked-questions
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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/16 10:24:05 (permalink)
    SToon,
    thank you for in fact clarifying everything, and not further complicating it at all.
    I didn't realize that this would cause such a debate, thank you all for your answers.
    So it just comes down the slight adjustment in tuning then....correct?
    I think I would like to do the adjustment post recording so that the vocals are included as well.
     
    Thanks for the info, I will try inputting that number into the cakewalk, if not I believe I have a version of Audition.
     
     
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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/16 12:43:44 (permalink)
    If you want vocals to be adjusted AFTER the recording then you're going to need pitch tuning software.  V-vocal is available in X1 Studio and Producer, I believe, or 3rd party Melodyne by Celemony has some versions for $100, I think?

    I would tune the voice to the detuned synth before recording.  that way you don't have to "fix" it.  in other words - if your keyboard is capable of this function (most are) then detune your keyboard, and then adjust the vocal pitch to match the keyboard before recording the voice.

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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/17 00:41:19 (permalink)
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    SToon,
    thank you for in fact clarifying everything, and not further complicating it at all.
    I didn't realize that this would cause such a debate, thank you all for your answers.
    So it just comes down the slight adjustment in tuning then....correct?
    I think I would like to do the adjustment post recording so that the vocals are included as well.
     
    Thanks for the info, I will try inputting that number into the cakewalk, if not I believe I have a version of Audition.
     
     
    If you end up in Audition and aren't sure how to set things up let me know. So yes, it does just boil down to a small adjutment in tuning, however, after reading their FAQ page I see that they are not, in fact, tuning the pitch up, they are speeding up the file but a very, very small amount which results in the raising the Pitch. When I have a few minutes I'll try to figure out the easiest way to duplicate this in Sonar or Audition.
     
    Ditto to what Beagle said, in fact the 528 website suggests the same - tune the keyboard up in the settings and then just sing along. There will be nothing to convert after the fact. In other words set the keyboard Master Tuning to A=444 and then record your music. Sing along and it will feel/sound no different than it did before except a very small bit sharper, likely unnoticeable unless you have perfect pitch. Then you don't have to do anything else, no raising the pitch, no speeding up, nothing. Then simply use Audition or Sonar if you want to convert an existing recording. If you are using instruments that are on the computer (synths, VSTi's etc) then the issue is different and you may have to record in standard pitch and then convert, depending on which plugins/VSTi's you use. Are you only using the external keyboard at the moment? 
     
    As 528 says on the FAQ page, number 10, most people cannot even hear a difference between A=440 and A=444 and even if they could it would only be if you switched back and forth between the original and the "528" version numerous times. Even then many wouldn't hear the difference. As for "feeling" the difference, well, faith and belief can affect perception...who am I to say.
    post edited by SToons - 2012/08/17 00:45:02
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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/17 08:32:22 (permalink)
    Thanks SToons,
    I probably will just tune the keyboard for instrumentals.
    If it is barely detectable to the ear, I'm not sure if the vox would really be right or not....
    Plus there are quite a few existing files I want to convert/play around with.
     
    As it turns out, I don't have Audition, it is another audio program from Adobe called: Soundbooth..
     
    If I could find out how to speed it up in Sonar would be good.
    Thanks for all the detailed info, hopefully it will help others out too.
     
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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2012/08/17 14:21:03 (permalink)
    OK thanks everyone for the help.

    I tried punching that number into cakewalk for the "Tune up"
    It would not accept it, it reverted back to zero.

    Luckily Soundbooth worked like a charm, and it accepted the whole number sequence.
    Super easy, just copy and paste.
    You can also speed up in soundbooth, is there a specific formula/number for the speed up thing?

    I played my keyboard against the new tuning, and it is very discernible to the naked ear, I can hear that it's off.
    So Beagle is indeed correct in suggesting using the keyboard master tune on new projects, and then sing along.

    THank you for all your help


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    Re:528 hz frequency in sonar home studio 7 Solfeggio Frequencies 2018/11/30 09:40:17 (permalink)
    Zplane "ELASTIQUE PITCH" plugin should suit your needs for this very good, very precise, very effective. 

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