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64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
So I just got my pay what you want upgrade to reason 6 that supports 64 bit rewire. How long till we see an update so we can rewire in 64 bit sonar.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 02:21:39
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I seriously hope I'm wrong, but I have a strong feeling that even if they do have the ability to implement 64 bit Rewire now or in the very near future, they will hold off and use it as one of the main selling points for whatever the next version of Sonar will be called. They know it's one of the main features that people in the 64 bit world have been waiting on and are most likely willing to pay for, and at the end of the day they are still a corporation so I have a hard time believing they'll pass up the easy money. Like I said, I hope I'm totally wrong about this and they bring it to us in an update SOON, but my gut tells me we'll be waiting a while.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 05:28:06
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 06:42:40
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ben , sod paying them for that.. Props should have been on point with it YEARS ago. I slated them often enough about it, only to get a load of fan boi's who don't use anything else. I just got my upgrade for reason 6 last night. cakewalk are on point with this stuff..e.g. rex-64 last time. It depends on when props gave them the info they needed and if things are any different compared to 32 bit.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 07:08:07
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Ah perhaps you should have paid less when you named your price! - Maybe they should have paid you :).
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 07:11:41
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why should I pay a 3rd party for an update props should have done LONG ago ? I can list about "6" items they have caused me hassle with them to an extent it got maddening.. so yer.. they got "paid" exactly what I thought, alas their wasn't a "you pay me" button for the amount of time I've wasted on them because of their lethargy in updating their exsisting products(no rex+rewire 64 being the 2 prime things) instead of trying to flog us new stuff e.g. record... who knows maybe recycle will be updated one day.. it's a 1 trick pony for me these days (file converter) .. it's a pity as I like their products, but other things make things tricky.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 07:58:40
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I've seen people actually pay them as little as $1.00 for the upgrade. As for the rewire business...what..price is not that big of an issue. And besides, we buy 3rd party stuff all the time. I do think though that it might just be that props might be waiting to see what X2 might do as well.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 08:18:07
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reason is a niche market.. it's not the same market as sonar or the other rivals. rewire 64 IS / WAS a big issue.. your stuck to use 4gb , not just for sonar users .. remember that's running OS + reason + a host + vst's etc. so to use rewire you only can use 32 bit sonar etc. I can easily max out reason memory wise within 4gb .. using big sample libs (like pianos)
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 08:52:36
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trimph1 I do think though that it might just be that props might be waiting to see what X2 might do as well. As somebody who is downloading Reason 6 as I type I'm obviously interested in 64 bit rewire hence reading this thread. Try as I might I cannot make sense of the above comment. Sorry. Grum.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 20:31:03
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I paid 100cents for it. I felt justified as i opened reason 5 maybe twice and record never....besides the name your own price i would have not even bothered with it probably. Now if i could rewire into sonar 64 without some third party fix it might get some use.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 20:55:23
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I'm hoping that Cake gets this together ASAP. No way I wanna wait until X2. It's been plenty long. I thought I saw a comment somewhere along the line that it was "on the way."
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 21:31:21
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We all make our own choices. If a 3rd party plugin provides the ability to use Rewire in a 64 bit host then you either get it because the function is important or you stick to your guns (like Propellorheads really know and care) and do without. Obviously the need to whinge is greater than the benefit of being able to rewire into a 64 bit host. Me, I gave Rewire and the need for it away a long long time ago. Can't say I've miissed it.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 22:17:11
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> Obviously the need to whinge is greater than the benefit of being able to rewire into a 64 bit host. LOL - when I feel that way I create multiple bug reports or feature requests. That's the only way to lock it out of my mind.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 23:20:52
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I just don't see the point, really. If I have to rewire one into another I just use whatever comes to hand--even if it is 3rd hand.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/09/30 23:42:17
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The installation instructions for R6 talk about how to install it in both 32-bit and 64-bit modes. Of course then you also have to have a 32-bit version of sonar x1.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/10/01 01:16:28
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Fog ben , sod paying them for that.. Props should have been on point with it YEARS ago. I slated them often enough about it, only to get a load of fan boi's who don't use anything else. I just got my upgrade for reason 6 last night. cakewalk are on point with this stuff..e.g. rex-64 last time. It depends on when props gave them the info they needed and if things are any different compared to 32 bit. Props ain't been the slowest in going 64 bit by a long chalk. There's still plenty of stuff out there that's 32 bit only. As for Rewire I'm still waiting for Cakewalk to implement the 32 bit version properly, it's easy to understand why some people here gave up on it long ago it's presently, lterally a mess of meaningless multiple choice channel selections just now at the Sonar end. Mind you it works OK once you've spent a few hours setting up a template so you can at least deal with a Stereo out at the bus stage. That ain't props fault. Also I don't know of another 64 bit Rewire host yet but at least now it's released it will start to get implemented. It's been available publicly for an entire day now so where are all the hosts already? I hope our Mr. Anderton is able to tip some guidance into the Cakewalk developers eyesight as to how to best implement it in it's new 64 bit form (and thusly fix the 32 bit version too), I know he's been looking forward to it too.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/10/01 01:29:27
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Cake said they worked with Props on the 64 bit REX library. Guess it depends how important it is in Cake's grand scheme of things..
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/10/01 16:28:19
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Regarding the way ReWire behaves that Jonbouy mentioned. FWIW it does the same thing in Pro Tools, first pair is one stereo track, after that I have to create two mono tracks and pan them left and right....quite a pain the deeper you get into a project!
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/10/02 16:07:10
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Jonbouy As for Rewire I'm still waiting for Cakewalk to implement the 32 bit version properly, it's easy to understand why some people here gave up on it long ago it's presently, lterally a mess of meaningless multiple choice channel selections just now at the Sonar end. Mind you it works OK once you've spent a few hours setting up a template so you can at least deal with a Stereo out at the bus stage. That ain't props fault. I think Rewire should be implemented as a simple mixer between Reason and SONAR. This mixer should have incoming mono channels from Reason. Stereo is 1/2, 3/4 etc. I should be able to assign a channel to a bus. Panned left, right or middle. And the mixer should have outgoing stereo buses into SONAR. (no Master needed) That way I have full control how individual instruments in Reason are routed into SONAR. So in SONAR I have as much rewired channels as have defined buses in de rewire mixer.
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/10/02 17:37:56
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Re:64 bit rewire is live ball is in your hands Cake
2011/10/02 17:40:15
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mudgel Me, I gave Rewire and the need for it away a long long time ago. Can't say I've miissed it. Of course you could midi sync Sonar to Reason 6 but I think Rewire is a better option in this scenario, no?
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