6stringsat100mph
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8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
How in the hell can this be? I can't get through recording longer than maybe 5 or 6 takes when drop outs and usually followed by the white screen of doom and no matter how long I wait hoping that it will respond, it doesn't and CRASH. I know it must be my system...but my buffer settings are actually higher than I should be using, I defrag once o twice a week and all the other suggested habits have been incorporated into my work flow but X2 keeps doing this. ....Any thoughts?
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/28 10:16:18
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Well to start with, an idea of what you're running might help.
Please list your FULL system spec, including interface
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/28 10:32:53
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the biggest portion of dropouts are caused by the soundcard and its drivers, not the CPU and RAM.
as Jonsey asks: what are you full systems specs including your interface?
also, which driver mode are you using and what are your latency settings?
those will be the biggest factors in dropouts
soundcard drivers will be the biggest factor in crashes
also: when the "white screen of death" appears - it should give you some information about a specific driver or piece of hardware which is causing the conflict. what is that?
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/28 10:58:20
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What is your buffer setting? Have you tried changing it?
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/28 11:43:39
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pls also list your graphic card and try running this tool ( http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon) while you record and list what shows up on top of the list in the drivers section when sorted by 5th column in descending order (highest execution time) ... make sure you keep it running until you get the first drop out again ... then post what you see ...
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/28 11:50:22
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in preferences/audio/config file try changing the last option dropoutmsec to 750 or so.
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/28 12:25:30
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Whats the point in posting this without a full system spec in your sig?
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/28 13:31:45
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keep the file write and tenderbit depth in mind too. your interface could be sixteen bit while you write thirty twobit files. see preferrea file.
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/28 13:42:45
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As he never responded to his hardware spec how can anyone help him. Could be anything?
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/28 13:51:34
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What is the frequency, Kenneth?
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6stringsat100mph
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/29 22:03:02
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Jeesh whats with all the attitude? I have been away a couple days. My system specs were there for many years (I've been a member here for quite a while) I have neglected to replace the system data. My PC is Intel Duo Core E7500 2.93Ghz I have 8 gigs of ram My interface is an M-Audio Fast track Ultra however it is not hooked up right now as I am using a XENYX Behringer X1622USB mixing console with USB connectivity and ASIO drivers. I have been using that for about a year now. Latency is at 5.3 ms and my video card is a G41 express. The drop outs are happening on projects that are relatively small. 9 or 10 audio tracks a couple soft synths and maybe between 8 and 15 plugins. Oh Yes..and I am running windows 7 Pro x64
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/29 22:25:52
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Hey Swamptooth...looks like that did it. I made this adjustment and have been playing larger and larger projects to see if it would drop and it has not yet. I really appreciate that help!! Thanks..I'll let you know if the problem comes back but I am pretty sure that this solution was what I needed. Thanks again
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/29 22:29:00
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Your latency may be too low. In response to your question about attitude I would point out that often when a post is made and is asking for help this forum often responds quickly. Its somewhat frustrating to try to answer a poster when they don't show up. In future staying around to see what response you get will prove helpful both to you and the forum. Or one can subscribe to a thread and get updates on it when one comes in. Here I saw no attitude from the various posters just a lot of wondering.
post edited by John - 2012/11/29 22:39:04
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/29 22:46:47
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6string: if your want to go over your system PM me !
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/30 00:05:04
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no problem 6strings... there's a lot going on between the audio interface and midi commands and such and the dropout msec is a bit low for a default imho. 750 works for me on a less-than par system and that seems to keep everything in sync even when i'm running really effects laden projects. i really don't have any problems to speak of in how x1 and x2 operates, but that comes from years of trying to break software for profit. ;)
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/30 07:32:49
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I had similar problem and solved by a new fresh installation. I had X1 before and the upgrade to X2 was buggy.
I'm using CW until cakewalk6 and i can say that CW doesn't always love upgrade. It sometimes (often for me) prefers a fresh new installation.
Don't know if this helps...
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/11/30 11:08:10
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6stringsat100mph
Jeesh whats with all the attitude? I have been away a couple days. My system specs were there for many years (I've been a member here for quite a while) I have neglected to replace the system data. My PC is Intel Duo Core E7500 2.93Ghz I have 8 gigs of ram My interface is an M-Audio Fast track Ultra however it is not hooked up right now as I am using a XENYX Behringer X1622USB mixing console with USB connectivity and ASIO drivers. I have been using that for about a year now. Latency is at 5.3 ms and my video card is a G41 express. The drop outs are happening on projects that are relatively small. 9 or 10 audio tracks a couple soft synths and maybe between 8 and 15 plugins. Oh Yes..and I am running windows 7 Pro x64
That's your problem right there.
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6stringsat100mph
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/12/03 14:51:44
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6stringsat100mph Jeesh whats with all the attitude? I have been away a couple days. My system specs were there for many years (I've been a member here for quite a while) I have neglected to replace the system data........ I am using a XENYX Behringer X1622USB mixing console with USB connectivity and ASIO drivers............ I have been using that for about a year now. Latency Oh Yes..and I am running windows 7 Pro x64 That's your problem right there.
Oh wow...FFS! I had forgotten about all the past hatred for Behringer. I Thought everyone got with the times and realized that is NOT the same garbage that it was 5 or 10 years ago. What a riot....a "stay behind" so to speak. No sir, you are wrong, the Behringer is NOT a problem. I have had no problems with it for the year that I have had it and am quite happy actually. You may want to dig into what you're criticizing; They have seriously come a long way in the last several years. Sort of like Hyundais. Remember how awful they were for ever? Not so bad now...especially for the price, just like the Behringer. Thanks StarTekh, Swamptooth and piangio. I will certainly take you up on the help if I have any more issues. John? Sorry I was not more attentive to this thread. I feel badly that I put folks out. I will try to be a better forum member.
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/12/03 15:36:19
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Let's see. You've previously used your M-Audio with success and now that you've switched your sound hardware to the Behringer and running it at 5.3ms (which I think is unrealistic for your hardware especially since your CPU is also below requirements) you're having problems with projects as their complexity increases. Drops outs are predominantly reports from the Audio Card not being able to keep up. Logic tells us that it is most likely your Behringer. Honestly, if you get that butthurt over owning a Behringer and having to rationalize it with a cheap automobile maybe you should reevaluate things.
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/12/03 21:06:37
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6stringsat100mph
6stringsat100mph Jeesh whats with all the attitude? I have been away a couple days. My system specs were there for many years (I've been a member here for quite a while) I have neglected to replace the system data........ I am using a XENYX Behringer X1622USB mixing console with USB connectivity and ASIO drivers............ I have been using that for about a year now. Latency Oh Yes..and I am running windows 7 Pro x64 That's your problem right there. Oh wow...FFS! I had forgotten about all the past hatred for Behringer. I Thought everyone got with the times and realized that is NOT the same garbage that it was 5 or 10 years ago. What a riot....a "stay behind" so to speak. No sir, you are wrong, the Behringer is NOT a problem. I have had no problems with it for the year that I have had it and am quite happy actually. You may want to dig into what you're criticizing; They have seriously come a long way in the last several years. Sort of like Hyundais. Remember how awful they were for ever? Not so bad now...especially for the price, just like the Behringer. Thanks StarTekh, Swamptooth and piangio. I will certainly take you up on the help if I have any more issues. John? Sorry I was not more attentive to this thread. I feel badly that I put folks out. I will try to be a better forum member.
Don't sweat the forum, people just get itchy keyboard fingers. I can't stop thinking X32 and begin to drool everytime I hear Behringer...I presume they're wiping the floor with Presonus... 
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/12/04 09:28:33
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6stringsat100mph
Jeesh whats with all the attitude? I have been away a couple days. My system specs were there for many years (I've been a member here for quite a while) I have neglected to replace the system data. My PC is Intel Duo Core E7500 2.93Ghz I have 8 gigs of ram My interface is an M-Audio Fast track Ultra however it is not hooked up right now as I am using a XENYX Behringer X1622USB mixing console with USB connectivity and ASIO drivers. I have been using that for about a year now. Latency is at 5.3 ms and my video card is a G41 express. The drop outs are happening on projects that are relatively small. 9 or 10 audio tracks a couple soft synths and maybe between 8 and 15 plugins. Oh Yes..and I am running windows 7 Pro x64
Howdy 6string - it would really help us to help you to provide some additional information, such as the driver version you are running on the X1622USB on your system. Also, the sampling rate and ASIO buffer size as set for that device, as well as the sample rate as set in Sonar, in addition to the record bit-depth. Lastly, some plugin effects and some soft synths can really spike latency, so for one of the projects giving you fits, will you please list the plugin effects and soft synths you have for that project? Thanks - if everyone had their Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwich today, maybe we can get to the bottom of this. Bob Bone
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/12/04 15:45:43
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Mr 6 string has started a few threads, received prompt answers and never returned.
NOT the same garbage that it was 5 or 10 years ago.
It is not that we think it's garbage, It's just there's a big difference between pro audio and devices that emulate pro audio.
Luckily I've only bought 2 products from them, both lasted about 4 years.
My Yamaha gear is all 20 to 30 years old and still works. I have to say that when it was new my Xenyx mixer sounded real good. It was handy for my solo gigs and as a sub mixer for recording. With in a year it got noisy and half the faders are so bad that I can only use 5 out of 10 channels and have to bypass the masters now.
Next board will be Allen and Heath or Yamaha.
PS from what I've read the drivers for most of these mixers are not up to the standards of what you get with a real audio interface. just sayin.
I too would point the finger at the drivers,, and even wag it up and down a little...
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Re:8 gigs ram dual core PC and drop outs all the time
2012/12/04 16:34:28
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Thanks Mr Cactus. I don't have a lot of patience for that - it's like sometimes people post when they are heading out the door on holiday.
Then again, he did jump back in, after a good thrashing and a bunch of attitude from some forum folks (I do accept responsibility for 1 random "What's the frequency, Kenneth" comment).
If he returns, and if people chill, and if 12/21 is merely another day to play lotto, then maybe we can help him get this figgered.
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