8.5 studio/Tascam US-1641 interface

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2011/05/30 12:15:05 (permalink)

8.5 studio/Tascam US-1641 interface

very new to this. Im a drummer and recording for fun. I am having difficulty getting the right balance of sound when recording. Track input levels vs interface input vol - which should be higher? using effects? getting rid of the garage sound? i have a profile on indabamusic.com - zquirpjive, learn and educate - the drum tracks in that session is what i am working on. Any feedback is worth reading, thanks...dig it
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    curb
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    Re:8.5 studio/Tascam US-1641 interface 2011/05/30 14:50:30 (permalink)
    Hi pal,
    I'm similar, a drummer using a Tascam US-1800 to record my band's rehearsals.
    The rule of thumb here is to have your Tascam's channel levels set so that they are as high as possible without going into the red. At this point the fader levels within Sonar do not have any effect, so you can set up a template with the levels mixed at the approximate levels you would want to play back at, so that when you come to mix you only have a bit of tweaking to do.
    Recording a lot of tracks at once it's best to record without too many effects and add them when mixing.
    How to get rid of that garage sound? This is where it starts to get difficult/expensive, as you won't get a killer sound with cheap mic's.
    You can get the sound better by experimenting with the placing of the mic's around the kit, but there is really no substitute for really good mic's.
    Other than that, keep reading, have a look at the tutorial videos and keep playing.

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    Re:8.5 studio/Tascam US-1641 interface 2011/05/30 21:24:50 (permalink)
    Drums are very loud and it is easy to overdrive the pre amps. I have a us1641 and I keep the levels at about 10 o'clock when using a SM 57 on a snare and even less for the kick drum. It's much better to record on the lighter side and just increase the gain latter. Overdriving the pre amps during recording will result in nasty digital overs that you cannot fix.

    Hook up the mike and start wacking the drum as hard as possible while turning up the gain, When it starts to turn red back off at least 15%.
    The garage sound comes from leakage between mikes and using a bad room. Fix the room, Get the mikes as close as possible. Face guitar amps away from the drums and make a acoustic shield for them.
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    Re:8.5 studio/Tascam US-1641 interface 2011/06/01 08:55:28 (permalink)
    put noisegates on the toms. the crosstalk is what is causing the "garage sound".
    Then eq the kickdrum. Take out the midlow. The way you shape the eq will define the sound of that kickdrum.

    Overheads go left and right.

    If you use a kickdrum, snare drum and a left right overhead mic just in front of the kit you will hear a much more clear drumsound without any processing. It is when you choose to fully mic up a drumkit that the crosstalk builds up. So when you do so, you need a noisegate and drumbus compressor. Or allso a compressor on kick and snare.

    Hope this makes sense. A drumsound is as digital right now as any synthesizer. So there are alot of recepies out there and loads of different sounds to be had.

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    Re:8.5 studio/Tascam US-1641 interface 2011/06/01 16:02:46 (permalink)
    I'm guessing that in your case a multi channel noise gate would be the way to go...least expensive.
    I also use a Tascam US-1641. Here at home I use a full size kit with mesh heads, drum triggers to a Yamaha RM50 drum brain(6in/6out) cymbals/hats (for recording purposes) are off another low entery level brain. Just another Ave. to think about. Good Luck.

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