A Caution of Sorts

I need to say this.
 
Many are reacting with anger over what Gibson has done with Cakewalk. Some are suggesting that they are even going to sell their guitars, I guess, in some sort of revenge or protest against Gibson.
 
Forgive me if I'm overstepping, but I'd strongly caution against this (at least if you are happy with the guitars you are going to sell). Gibson is not going to care one iota about your anger and you will depriving yourself of fine instrument and its use: if you enjoy your guitar, you will probably miss its use sooner rather than later. And if (as seems inevitable) Gibson goes belly up, you may have sold an instrument that could be worth some serious cash later. 
 
I do obviously understand the anger. And it's just as obvious that I've got no right telling anyone what to do. But as someone who, in their very human situation, has occasionally done things which brought regret as a result of an angrily considered decision, I'd like to spare others the rather painful results of the same.  

I'm certainly not selling my treasured '79 LP Standard.
 
Besides, I didn't buy it from Gibson anyway..

Good advice Outland!!
 
As much as I'm upset about what's taking place here, I try not to let the emotions take over the sensible reasoning.  
Someone told me long time ago....."always think it through".

batsbrew
 
there are much better guitars.

I don't play much guitar anymore (and never played very much electric at all, mostly classical at one point), so I can't argue with you point-to-point, but you and I both know there are those who would disagree STRONGLY with you.
 
But..., if they don't disagree, these would be the guys who could sell their axes without m/any regrets.
 

 

outland144k
[font="'book antiqua', palatino; color: #003366"]Many are reacting with anger over what Gibson has done with Cakewalk. Some are suggesting that they are even going to sell their guitars, I guess, in some sort of revenge or protest against Gibson.

 
I have to admit, this news made the thought of smashing my J45 briefly flicker through my mind.  But I wouldn't actually do it, unless maybe a Gibson executive happened to be in the room with me, and I could pull an El Kabong on his head. 

Besides, Henry didn't make my Les Paul or SG.  But he may sink the ones who did...

I ain't gonna smash my LP, but I'm also NOT gonna pull the trigger on that nice SG I've had my eye on.
Sad, Gibson has such history and heritage, and Henry has run it straight into the ground.....

Don't sell guitars you own that will not impact Gibson at all, stating the obvious its new ones they make their money out of...

timidi

jamesg1213
I'm certainly not selling my treasured '79 LP Standard.
 
Besides, I didn't buy it from Gibson anyway..

therein lies a part of gibson's problem. 

Well they can't buy back all their guitars and re-sell them. Same goes for any manufacturer.

Brian Walton
I own vintage Gibsons...but Gibson doesn't even make the best Les Pauls, 335 Style guitars, Or Dual Cut "SG" either etc.  
 
Outland, you are aware that the most famous "les paul" Slash used wasn't even a Gibson, right?  
 

No, Brian, I hadn't a clue. I did know that he enjoyed Les Pauls, but no idea of anything else. I'm not even a Guns and Roses fan; I'm too much of a jazz-head I fear. I'm much more into Pat Metheny, John Scofield, and Allan Holdsworth than Slash.
 
I did like the picture. 
 
It should probably be mentioned in my own defence, however, that I was referring to the entire output of the Gibson company (and particularly the vintage years' models), not what they "are" producing at the moment.

Only Gibson I ever owned was a EBO bass. It was the most boring bass I ever owned. I even tried updating the PU's and bridge etc , it was just plain boring.
I had a music store and Via Yorkville Sound had access to the Gibson line up. I brought in a LP and and SG, Had to send the LP back as it had a warped neck. The SG was OK but compaired to everything else I sold was totaly not worth the price. It would not stay in tune , sold it a a very min profit so never oreded any more. I sold many Yamaha's, Samicks and Ibanez's. I also sold Godins and a small company called Fury. I had access to all of Fenders amps and gear but they wouldn't allow me to sell the guitars unless I took the full product line so that was a no deal. Would have been stuck with there terrible acoustics. I sold over 100 Seaguls as well as Yamaha and Ibanez acoustics. 

Brian Walton

outland144k

Brian Walton
I own vintage Gibsons...but Gibson doesn't even make the best Les Pauls, 335 Style guitars, Or Dual Cut "SG" either etc.  
 
Outland, you are aware that the most famous "les paul" Slash used wasn't even a Gibson, right?  
 

No, Brian, I hadn't a clue. I did know that he enjoyed Les Pauls, but no idea of anything else. I'm not even a Guns and Roses fan; I'm too much of a jazz-head I fear. I'm much more into Pat Metheny, John Scofield, and Allan Holdsworth than Slash.
 
I did like the picture. 
 
It should probably be mentioned in my own defence, however, that I was referring to the entire output of the Gibson company (and particularly the vintage years' models), not what they "are" producing at the moment.

I'm more interested in jazz too generally speaking but I also know a lot about guitars.
 
Slash used a non-gibson les paul to record the stuff that made them house hold names.  Of course when they became all over MTV and real les pauls started to sell like hot cakes because of him in particular, Gibson of course got "involved" in his career.
 
Interesting you listed a bunch of players that don't play Gibsons as the primary instruments either.  Though Pat has some really cool ones in the collection.  
 
I agree that selling ones Gibson isn't going to hurt Gibson.  But I'd also say if you play Gibson's nothing is holding you back from switching if you have the money.  The grass absolutely can be greener.  

Here's an odd story: back around the late nineties, my synth tech passed on. He was a rather eccentric gentleman who died as a result of a freak accident in what amounted to a room that was a huge virtual microwave oven. A few years later, his wife called me and told me she had something that was her late husband's to give me, kind of on potentially permanent loan. I made arrangements to pick-up whatever it was and went to her house. She handed an immaculate Gibson L5 with gold hardware from the early 1960's. She gave it to me because she said she knew I'd play it. It turns out that Darryl (her late husband) was an astounding jazz guitarist who simply was too shy to let anyone know he played. A few people, however, did find out and occasionally went to visit him and jam when they could. Some of these guys were Pat Metheny, Joe Pass, and Jim Hall. I was stunned. I accepted the guitar, but I couldn't bring myself to play it; it as simply too beautiful and I was afraid that I might damage it. She finally called and asked for it back as one of Daryl's friends asked to borrow it for a recording session (she never told me who). I was actually relieved. I estimated the guitar's worth at over ten grand from a little research I did, but again, I'm not a guitarist.
 
And in all the years I knew him, Darryl never once mentioned that he played.  
 
I hear you, Brian on "grass is always greener" comment. My only point is that one should not sell an instrument out of anger, per se.   

I think it could have been worse. We could have tried logging in one day and been like "WTF is going on here".
Keeping Noel and Keith here speaks volumes about how Gibson wants to leave save face on their Cakewalk Experiment. Im not happy about it in any way, shape or form. But we do still have a forum here and we are waiting word for an authorization system (hopefully) in place very soon. So I credit Gibson for that and im grateful.
 
As for the guitars themselves...
I think Gibson's quality slipped a little bit in the past few years. Along with trending movements. Such as: There are no more Guitar hero's anymore to sell guitars at the volume they were once sold. Never thought I would see this day coming, ever. Electric guitar was the choice tool for Rock n roll. But as The Who said "Rock is dead".
 
This whole experience has made me feel like an old washed up has been who's music is no longer appreciated (Sorry gents for inviting you to my pity party) but it has made me realize a few things. Things I realized a few years ago, like im never going to make it famous, I write and record my music for me only as way to enjoy my time.
 
Even my kids listen to my music like I used to listen to my fathers music and say "This sounds old".
I need a drink

A bigger caution of sorts -
 
Other DAW makers knowing there are a slew of potential vulnerable users running around looking for a new DAW.
Circling this place like sharks using fake accounts saying how good DAW X is.
That's what concerns me. Getting an honest opinion. We have all been here long enough though.
We know who to trust and who is Joe Schmo from Idaho.  

Brian Walton
 
Outland, you are aware that the most famous "les paul" Slash used wasn't even a Gibson, right?  

 
I assumed the picture you posted had been pulled from this article about those guitars. Gibson made a replica in 2010, the "“original,” as Slash calls it in the videos, was made by California luthier Kris Derrig."