cclarry
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A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
Here's a couple of other long overdue products...
Superior Drummer 2 - Original Release date: 06/2008 6 years since an upgrade...there have been "point" updates...
FAR TOO LONG.
Addictive Drums - Original Release date: also late 2007/early 2008. 6 years also...been updated to 1.5, but
that's still 6 years to get to a new version. FAR TOO LONG.
Hat's off to FXpansion for the being the first Drum Sampler to "do the do" AND they did a fantastic job.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 11:44:47
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You can add AAS Tassman to the list, as it has been at 4 forever.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 11:47:53
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Sylenth1 - it's depicted on cave drawings.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 11:49:33
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Didn't Addictive did go 64bit within the last two/three years?
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 12:01:07
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Sony Acid- They added an element to the DAW world that has since been adapted and surpassed by...EVERYBODY. It's kind of odd that the best programs to use acidized files is not acid. The last upgrade was so meh that i skipped it.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 12:10:50
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I thought I saw an ad for a new version of ACID studio (10).
Voxengo Pristine Space/Pristine Space Light - have not even been updated to x64.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 12:11:05
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cclarry
Addictive Drums - Original Release date: also late 2007/early 2008. 6 years also...been updated to 1.5, but
that's still 6 years to get to a new version. FAR TOO LONG.
To be fair, they didn't just jump from v1 to the current, there have been somewhat consistent incremental updates that included x64 VST support, x64 AU support as well as AAX support. (all without charging) My only pet peeve with them is online activation only...
post edited by gustabo - 2014/02/15 12:12:59
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Win10 Pro x64 - StudioCat Platinum Studio DAW - 32 GB Ram - MOTU UltraLite-mk3
M-Audio Keystation 88ES - Akai MPD26 (hot-rodded) - Alesis DM10 - a few guitars, a few amps
Novation Launch Control - Korg nanoKONTROL2 - PreSonus FaderPort - DAW Remote HD on iPad
Adam A7X - Behritone C50A
PreSonus Monitor Station v2 (controlling the mons)
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 12:25:08
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gustabo
My only pet peeve with them is online activation only...
I know there are still die hard DAW guys of the "no online" fambly. I'm not one. (knocks on wooden head) I've been online with my DAW since for years and years and have yet to have an issue. I'm especially wary of "surfing" the internests on the DAW, but TrueImage is my friend and I can always recover if I need to.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 13:41:04
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bapu
Didn't Addictive did go 64bit within the last two/three years?
Yes Baps...but still hasn't made the 2.0 mark....it got to 1.5....that's a poor showing in 6 years of existence...
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 13:42:19
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gustabo
cclarry
Addictive Drums - Original Release date: also late 2007/early 2008. 6 years also...been updated to 1.5, but
that's still 6 years to get to a new version. FAR TOO LONG.
To be fair, they didn't just jump from v1 to the current, there have been somewhat consistent incremental updates that included x64 VST support, x64 AU support as well as AAX support. (all without charging)
My only pet peeve with them is online activation only...
gustabo, very true..but still, you have to admit, 6 years without making a full version increment is far too long...
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 13:54:14
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cclarry
gustabo
cclarry
Addictive Drums - Original Release date: also late 2007/early 2008. 6 years also...been updated to 1.5, but
that's still 6 years to get to a new version. FAR TOO LONG.
To be fair, they didn't just jump from v1 to the current, there have been somewhat consistent incremental updates that included x64 VST support, x64 AU support as well as AAX support. (all without charging)
My only pet peeve with them is online activation only...
gustabo, very true..but still, you have to admit, 6 years without making a full version increment is
far too long...
(said jokingly) It's hard to improve on perfection?  At least they don't have the vapors.....
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Win10 Pro x64 - StudioCat Platinum Studio DAW - 32 GB Ram - MOTU UltraLite-mk3
M-Audio Keystation 88ES - Akai MPD26 (hot-rodded) - Alesis DM10 - a few guitars, a few amps
Novation Launch Control - Korg nanoKONTROL2 - PreSonus FaderPort - DAW Remote HD on iPad
Adam A7X - Behritone C50A
PreSonus Monitor Station v2 (controlling the mons)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonarusergroup/
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cclarry
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 14:01:35
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gustabo
cclarry
gustabo
cclarry
Addictive Drums - Original Release date: also late 2007/early 2008. 6 years also...been updated to 1.5, but
that's still 6 years to get to a new version. FAR TOO LONG.
To be fair, they didn't just jump from v1 to the current, there have been somewhat consistent incremental updates that included x64 VST support, x64 AU support as well as AAX support. (all without charging)
My only pet peeve with them is online activation only...
gustabo, very true..but still, you have to admit, 6 years without making a full version increment is
far too long...
(said jokingly) It's hard to improve on perfection?
At least they don't have the vapors.....
Amen to that Gusabo. At least they haven't been been claiming for 4 years that it's "right at the front door"...
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 19:57:45
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Amen to that Gusabo. At least they haven't been been claiming for 4 years that it's
"right at the front door"...
Someone should open the front door. It's cold outside.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 19:59:31
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cowboydan
Amen to that Gusabo. At least they haven't been been claiming for 4 years that it's
"right at the front door"...
Someone should open the front door. It's cold outside.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 20:16:57
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cclarry
Superior Drummer 2 - Original Release date: 06/2008 6 years since an upgrade...there have been "point" updates...
FAR TOO LONG.
Didn't SD2 go 64bit a couple of years ago? Also, not sure what kind of upgrade one would like/expect in SD2. Perhaps a tape sim? What are you looking for from SD? Just curious.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/15 21:08:00
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cecelius2
cclarry
Superior Drummer 2 - Original Release date: 06/2008 6 years since an upgrade...there have been "point" updates...
FAR TOO LONG.
Didn't SD2 go 64bit a couple of years ago? Also, not sure what kind of upgrade one would like/expect in SD2. Perhaps a tape sim? What are you looking for from SD? Just curious.
For me; movable/re-arrangeable tracks & buses in the mixer section
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 02:35:02
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Sony Acid- They added an element to the DAW world that has since been adapted and surpassed by...EVERYBODY. It's kind of odd that the best programs to use acidized files is not acid. The last upgrade was so meh that i skipped it. I think it is because ACID never did very well. Sony really doesn't seem to care about it much anymore. Vegas is their big business, since it synergizes with their camera division which is huge. Sound Forge is also big for them, being one of the only real pro audio editors left on the market. ACID just doesn't do much business.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 07:35:57
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ACID by far - takes the cake for the 'left-to-rot' category.
It's a damn good product. I really like it's interface, and it's counterpart in Vegas - so much so I started wailing when they started mucking it up there.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 08:53:55
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cecelius2
cclarry
Superior Drummer 2 - Original Release date: 06/2008 6 years since an upgrade...there have been "point" updates...
FAR TOO LONG.
Didn't SD2 go 64bit a couple of years ago? Also, not sure what kind of upgrade one would like/expect in SD2. Perhaps a tape sim? What are you looking for from SD? Just curious.
Just in this regards, listen to BFD 3 now. Those samples are amazing. Technology doesn't just "Sit still" There is always room to improve your product, add features, and make MORE MONEY. I seriously seriously seriously don't get the "well it's usable" why bother with an update mentality? Improving and updating your product is beneficial for the USER and the COMPANY. It's a WIN-WIN. Why do you think Cake has gone to a 1 YEAR Product Cycle? It keeps revenue flowing, and the end user benefits by keeping current with technology!!! We just got VST 3 and ARA in Sonar. Sure we could have used X2 for few more years the way it was, but, for the sake of the CUSTOMER (see what a novel idea that is) Cakewalk continues to update the product and add current tech.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 08:55:58
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ACID by far - takes the cake for the 'left-to-rot' category.
It's a damn good product. I really like it's interface, and it's counterpart in Vegas - so much so I started wailing when they started mucking it up there.
For me, ACID looks like a FREE software. It's interface looks like Audacity, etc. THAT doesn't effect the usability of the product, that's for sure, it just doesn't have "Curb Appeal" LOL
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 09:11:18
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Sylenth1 - it's depicted on cave drawings.
This is the one I read quite a bit of complaints about with regard to no x64 bit version. While I've never understood Sylenth1's appeal (it's sound just doesn't do it for me), this is definitely one of the most popular soft-synths out there. The number of third party preset banks for this thing is obscene, and by my estimation, unrivaled. Not only has it's x64 bit update been a long time coming, but the developer has pretty much disappeared from their support forum at KVR (although, to be fair, he does answer support emails...except for the "when will Sylenth1 be 64 bit?" question).
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 10:34:53
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strikinglyhandsome1
Sylenth1 - it's depicted on cave drawings.
This is the one I read quite a bit of complaints about with regard to no x64 bit version.
While I've never understood Sylenth1's appeal (it's sound just doesn't do it for me), this is definitely one of the most popular soft-synths out there. The number of third party preset banks for this thing is obscene, and by my estimation, unrivaled.
Not only has it's x64 bit update been a long time coming, but the developer has pretty much disappeared from their support forum at KVR (although, to be fair, he does answer support emails...except for the "when will Sylenth1 be 64 bit?" question).
From what I've seen in discussion groups, Sylenth is also one of the most pirated soft synths too. I've seen references to many top-selling/popular "producers" and dj's using a pirated copy of Sylenth on videos about their work. Here's an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfCmoEixxroClearly visible at 9:19 Here's another example: http://www.youredm.com/2013/08/22/steve-aoki-caught-using-pirated-software/What's the incentive to update when your product is so popular yet not selling? disclaimer: I don't use Sylenth so I'm not included in that cast of characters!
post edited by gustabo - 2014/02/16 10:40:38
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Win10 Pro x64 - StudioCat Platinum Studio DAW - 32 GB Ram - MOTU UltraLite-mk3
M-Audio Keystation 88ES - Akai MPD26 (hot-rodded) - Alesis DM10 - a few guitars, a few amps
Novation Launch Control - Korg nanoKONTROL2 - PreSonus FaderPort - DAW Remote HD on iPad
Adam A7X - Behritone C50A
PreSonus Monitor Station v2 (controlling the mons)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonarusergroup/
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 12:04:49
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Sylenth is popular because you can play the back catalogue of dance music with it and some of the preset packs are brilliant at doing that. On piracy, just enter any soft synth in google and look how many pirate sites come up and then look at the download numbers. The numbers are huge. Most people don't steal because of fear of being caught and not because of their morals. That's not a problem on the net. Check out some of the TV, film and music stats too. It's millions and millions. Best not get into pirating stuff as those threads make SampleTank discussions look fluffy pillow fights on a sleepover.
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SmokeyJ628
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 15:47:29
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Certainly, Rapture and Dimension Pro should be on this list.
Rapture needs a mac installation workaround depending on the O/S version and apparently, all they'd have to do to make it is work is to make a very minor change to the installer and it would work great. So far, they've refused to do so.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 17:01:10
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I dunno about Rapture because I don't use it but Dimension Pro for sure. I won't buy samples for it because of its lack of support. I mean it works on my system, but I have real worries as for how long. Given the total lack of information about it and lack of updates, even minor bug fixes, I worry that it'll just languish. So I buy samples for Kontakt, even if the Dimension version is cheaper.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/16 19:33:46
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interesting topic... made me think.
Of the bunch discussed here I have Toontrack Superior Drummer V2 and AAS Tassman V4. Both are x64, so as far as I'm concerned I don't need anything more. There are no glaring bugs in either, and only a handful of minor "gee I wish I could..." moments.
No upgrades means more cash for other stuff<G>!
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
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Aci cclarry
SuperG
ACID by far - takes the cake for the 'left-to-rot' category.
It's a damn good product. I really like it's interface, and it's counterpart in Vegas - so much so I started wailing when they started mucking it up there.
For me, ACID looks like a FREE software. It's interface looks like Audacity, etc. THAT doesn't effect
the usability of the product, that's for sure, it just doesn't have "Curb Appeal" LOL
Acid has a much better interface than Audacity. No, it is nowhere near as slick as the top Daws, but it is pretty much the same interface as Vegas. From a looks point, I think Rapture looks the most similar out the box. I don't think it looks so much like freeware but just absolutely dated. When you think about it, the core look and features from all of Sonys media products ceome from Sonic Foundry software originally meant to run on windows 95. The core effects, except for whatever third party ones have remained static. Even the interface has only seen minor changes.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/17 11:49:56
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I like Sony's interface, it is more business, less flash. Most audio software, Sonar included, is a bit obsessed with being flashy and trying to look like actual gear. Sony's stuff is made to present the information well on a computer screen and be easy to use and read. Ya, it looks kind of like an office app... because those do a good job of that.
I'm a big fan of Sound Forge and Vegas. ACID's only problem is that it hasn't been updated feature wise, looks wise I like it too.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2014/02/17 20:22:40
bapu
cecelius2
cclarry
Superior Drummer 2 - Original Release date: 06/2008 6 years since an upgrade...there have been "point" updates...
FAR TOO LONG.
Didn't SD2 go 64bit a couple of years ago? Also, not sure what kind of upgrade one would like/expect in SD2. Perhaps a tape sim? What are you looking for from SD? Just curious.
For me; movable/re-arrangeable tracks & buses in the mixer section
Amen to that! It's great they provide so many busses, but who has ever used them all? Let me hide the unused ones. And while we're at it, how about remembering the last mixer view so it comes up that way automatically when I re-open a project? Also on the wish list: an integrated distortion plugin, the ability to type in values into the effects plugins, global bleed mute and effects bypass buttons. Other than that, it's perfect.
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Re: A Couple of other companies that are Long Overdue for Upgrades...
2014/02/17 20:54:17
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Heh - Me happy with Ezdrummer... If I can't do it with eight outputs... pxxx on it... 
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