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A Friend Looking For Work
My friend Ryan is a drummer. He wants to get into recording/collaborating on the internet or in a real band. He's currently unemployed and almost homeless, living in a friend's shed. I'm trying to help him out a little, but I told him he needs to get a job so he can afford all the stuff necessary to do home recording and weborating. He recently spent a couple hundred bucks to have himself recorded at a studio in Durham. He was there for over 2 hours and is disappointed that all the guy gave him was about 5 minutes of clips from his various performances. I stitched the 5 seperate mp3s together into one 5:20 solo and helped him create a soundclick page to load that up to. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=1322626He sounds pretty good to me, but I'm no drummer. He also has several full songs he wrote and recorded at home (using loops and live recordings) that I'll be uploading when he brings them over. I hope to get him to record some real drums for a song or 2 of mine someday, but I'm also unequipped for recording a drummer, being limited to 2 inputs with my Saffire. So, is he any good?
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
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☄ Helpfulby Mystic38 2013/11/04 16:45:36
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My friend Ryan is a drummer. He's currently unemployed and almost homeless, living in a friend's shed.
And this is different from other drummers how?  (Ok, ok! Good luck to him and all that.  )
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
2013/11/03 14:03:45
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He has yet to master the Am note. 
Very few have.
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
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57Gregy
My friend Ryan is a drummer. He wants to get into recording/collaborating on the internet or in a real band. He's currently unemployed and almost homeless, living in a friend's shed.
I'm trying to help him out a little, but I told him he needs to get a job so he can afford all the stuff necessary to do home recording and weborating.
He recently spent a couple hundred bucks to have himself recorded at a studio in Durham. He was there for over 2 hours and is disappointed that all the guy gave him was about 5 minutes of clips from his various performances. I stitched the 5 seperate mp3s together into one 5:20 solo and helped him create a soundclick page to load that up to.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=1322626
He sounds pretty good to me, but I'm no drummer. He also has several full songs he wrote and recorded at home (using loops and live recordings) that I'll be uploading when he brings them over.
I hope to get him to record some real drums for a song or 2 of mine someday, but I'm also unequipped for recording a drummer, being limited to 2 inputs with my Saffire.
So, is he any good?
Yeah he's good (Damn Good!) Nice and smooth, even attack and solid timing. As we all know, making music your primary job is a looooong harrrrd road. Not much money for 98% of musicians. I know a boat load of musicians that are of pro quality and have a great talent. They even play out every night including clubs in Atlantic City, New York city and Philly. They ALL have full time jobs to make a living and only play music for the love of playing music. Mike
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2013/11/03 18:13:12
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57Gregy
My friend Ryan is a drummer. He's currently unemployed and almost homeless, living in a friend's shed.
And this is different from other drummers how?
(Ok, ok! Good luck to him and all that. )
HEY!!!! Mike
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
2013/11/03 15:07:01
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Just another thought...
How old is he and does he have 'the look'?
I know of more 'unknown musicians' who are Way better then what you hear as pro's today.
Basically you have to be marketable not so much talented.
Sad but true.
He really should consider learning a trade and keep playing music as much as possible.
Who knows, he may just get lucky.
Persistence pays off sometimes.
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
2013/11/03 15:29:47
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I am not a double bass drum player so it's probably not fair for me to be hyper-critical of the double bass drum stuff ... and most of what you patched together was built abound double bass drum licks but, I will say his double bass drum playing is probably adequate. I do go out to see a lot of bands and the expectation wrt double bass drum work is a lot higher than it was back in the late 80's.
Wrt the single bass drum work that pops up a couple of times (starting at 2:44 in particular) there is some timing/tempo weirdness going on that is not very flattering.
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
2013/11/03 15:41:38
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I like my double bass to not be so 'quantized', it gives it that nice human feel.
But I personally didn't feel anything that made me go "WOAH!" WTH was that?
I'm no pro but I have been playing 36 years-ish and this guy is far from un-talented.
I know you never said anything like that Quantum, this was not a full response to your post.
I'm just saying, that's all.
Just my opinion.
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
2013/11/03 15:52:00
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Granted ... far from un-talented. I guess I came across a bit harsher then I intended. In the right situation (maybe 80's influenced metal?) he definitely has a lot to offer. Edit: added the word "from" for coherence.
post edited by quantumeffect - 2013/11/03 16:49:14
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
2013/11/03 15:52:44
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Dave's worried for his CHB slot....
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
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☄ Helpfulby chefmike8888 2013/11/04 05:55:43
My suggestion is that he focus his demo on playing grooves over soloing. Can you record him at your place? He should play all the styles he knows in order to open more opportunities. He needs to find a band too.
I wish him all best.
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/11/03 16:08:02
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Dave's worried for his CHB slot....
What I meant to say was that ... I don't think he would be a good fit for an online heavy metal collaboration.
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
2013/11/04 10:26:00
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He's 23. He is in a band... that hasn't met or rehearsed in a year. The low-tuned guitars and croaking-vocals type.
He assumes that means there is no longer a band.
My "studio" is a 9'X11' bedroom. I suppose I could move the bed out to make room for the drum set. Or use the living room, borrow a few mikes and see what happens.
The guy that recorded him told Ryan he'll give him a free hour of recording because Ryan felt that he didn't get what he paid for.
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
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57Gregy
My friend Ryan is a drummer. He's currently unemployed and almost homeless, living in a friend's shed.
And this is different from other drummers how?
(Ok, ok! Good luck to him and all that. )
HEY!!!!
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I know this does not sound right, but it is! And if there is a chance, and a prayer in heck that anyone can make it, you have to go to New York, London, Paris and the like, so you learn to tougher inside and also fight harder to get to it. You either want to and DO, or you are done, in those places, because there are too many folks on the same boat!
As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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Re: A Friend Looking For Work
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The guy sounds like he could lay down the beat for most rock bands and more....
However... this is NC. Country is really popular and most bands are country to one degree or another if they are working in this economy.
Back in the day, NC was a hotbed of nightclubs and bars which all used live music. It was easy to throw a band together and make money. I have literally done that several times.... having gigs before the band was even rehearsing. Been there done that more than once.
With the DUI laws tightening and the economy in the hopper, the number of clubs that are still using live music and paying enough to support bands is pretty slim from my vantage point. My local town doesn't have a regular club with live bands..... there is one place that does have bands but it's a family style place which allows no alcohol. Small family kind of place..... 90% country.
I see a number of tiny places having "play for the door and tips" live music, which is OK for a guitarist and a laptop....
The best thing he can do is get a daytime job to pay the bills.... and get an apartment so he doesn't have to live in a shed. A good drummer, like a good guitarist can generally find a part time band to play with where everyone works M-F and gigs on the weekends when they can find gigs. I wish him all the best in finding work and a band.
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