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2015/10/25 09:53:47 (permalink)

A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story)

Here's a new one I've been working on for way too long. It's a cinematic soundtrack theme to a not-yet-made movie. Just read the title and use your imagination...
 
https://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/track/a-girl-and-a-gun-a-love-story   (Updated 10/28)
 
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https://soundcloud.com/dcumpian/a-girlan-a-gun-a-love-story

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http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=13239150&q=hi&newref=1


Any comments or suggestions are always appreciated. Hope y'all enjoy!
 
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post edited by dcumpian - 2015/10/28 08:23:42

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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 12:13:31 (permalink)
Excellent Dan - really unexpected when the double time drums kick in and then the dance feel but I love it.
My only slight nit would be maybe the acoustic guitar panned to the right could come down in the mix - I found myself hearing that over everything else at times.
Brilliant though
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 12:38:31 (permalink)
What a song and what a mix... 5 stars from me
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 13:37:54 (permalink)
Nice song and mix, Dan. I thought it was well balanced (maybe a little bit lower on the right acoustic guitar), and surprising twists in the song. Thumbs-up

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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 13:49:18 (permalink)
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Excellent Dan - really unexpected when the double time drums kick in and then the dance feel but I love it.
My only slight nit would be maybe the acoustic guitar panned to the right could come down in the mix - I found myself hearing that over everything else at times.
Brilliant though




Are there specific moments where the acoustic is too loud? There are parts where it is the lead, and there are others where it is a supporting instrument, so I am looking for specific problem times to focus on.
 
Thanks!
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 14:02:13 (permalink)
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Excellent Dan - really unexpected when the double time drums kick in and then the dance feel but I love it.
My only slight nit would be maybe the acoustic guitar panned to the right could come down in the mix - I found myself hearing that over everything else at times.
Brilliant though




Are there specific moments where the acoustic is too loud? There are parts where it is the lead, and there are others where it is a supporting instrument, so I am looking for specific problem times to focus on.
 
Thanks!
Dan
 


Out now Dan. I'll listen again later and try and be more specific.
It's not a lead part.
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 16:19:45 (permalink)
Hi Sir,
A very pleasing Journey in a kind of neighbour imaginery country .
I am lacking technical knowledge to say anything on the composition and the mix because,to my ears,it is full of joy and energy.
Now that we have the soundtrack,let's wait for the pictures,I would like to know what's that gun's girl is going to do.😎😗.
All the best.
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 16:24:04 (permalink)
Dan,
 
Outstanding production, love it from start to finish.  Your mix and performance are 10 of 10..  Lot of twists and turns and good listening.
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 17:03:20 (permalink)
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Excellent Dan - really unexpected when the double time drums kick in and then the dance feel but I love it.
My only slight nit would be maybe the acoustic guitar panned to the right could come down in the mix - I found myself hearing that over everything else at times.
Brilliant though




Are there specific moments where the acoustic is too loud? There are parts where it is the lead, and there are others where it is a supporting instrument, so I am looking for specific problem times to focus on.
 
Thanks!
Dan
 




Back now - the acoustic that is panned right - starts at 0.13 and ends 0.43 (when the same sound becomes more of a lead). Then it comes back in at 2.46 and turns into a leady thing around 3.15 ish.
It sticks out and detracts from the lead you have there IMO.
 
Let me say though that this is epic and a brilliant piece of composition/playing/production and mix - top job.
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 17:42:59 (permalink)
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What a song and what a mix... 5 stars from me




Thank you Eddi!
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/25 17:43:35 (permalink)
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Nice song and mix, Dan. I thought it was well balanced (maybe a little bit lower on the right acoustic guitar), and surprising twists in the song. Thumbs-up




Thanks Ken!
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/26 05:27:47 (permalink)
This is excellent. Immensely suits the background theme.
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/26 08:19:00 (permalink)
 
 
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Excellent Dan - really unexpected when the double time drums kick in and then the dance feel but I love it.
My only slight nit would be maybe the acoustic guitar panned to the right could come down in the mix - I found myself hearing that over everything else at times.
Brilliant though




Are there specific moments where the acoustic is too loud? There are parts where it is the lead, and there are others where it is a supporting instrument, so I am looking for specific problem times to focus on.
 
Thanks!
Dan
 




Back now - the acoustic that is panned right - starts at 0.13 and ends 0.43 (when the same sound becomes more of a lead). Then it comes back in at 2.46 and turns into a leady thing around 3.15 ish.
It sticks out and detracts from the lead you have there IMO.
 
Let me say though that this is epic and a brilliant piece of composition/playing/production and mix - top job.




Got it, and I hear what you are saying. Overall, I think I boosted the acoustic too far and the entire mix is tilted to the right. I'll adjust the acoustic in those spots and pull it down a bit overall as well. Also, part where the acoustic competes with the lead is due to the fact that the lead wasn't there when I recorded the acoustic. The acoustic was the lead during that part. Of course, as thing changed, I couldn't decide which part I liked better, so they fight. I'll adjust it to sit better with everything else going on in that section.
 
I also think I may need to add a bit more low-mid "plunk" to the bass. Thoughts on that?
 
Regards,
Dan
 

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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/26 08:20:15 (permalink)
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Hi Sir,
A very pleasing Journey in a kind of neighbour imaginery country .
I am lacking technical knowledge to say anything on the composition and the mix because,to my ears,it is full of joy and energy.
Now that we have the soundtrack,let's wait for the pictures,I would like to know what's that gun's girl is going to do.😎😗.
All the best.
Olivier



Thanks Olivier! I'm sure everyone has their own ideas about what happen in this "movie". I know I have mine
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/26 08:34:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2015/10/26 09:52:35
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Excellent Dan - really unexpected when the double time drums kick in and then the dance feel but I love it.
My only slight nit would be maybe the acoustic guitar panned to the right could come down in the mix - I found myself hearing that over everything else at times.
Brilliant though




Are there specific moments where the acoustic is too loud? There are parts where it is the lead, and there are others where it is a supporting instrument, so I am looking for specific problem times to focus on.
 
Thanks!
Dan
 




Back now - the acoustic that is panned right - starts at 0.13 and ends 0.43 (when the same sound becomes more of a lead). Then it comes back in at 2.46 and turns into a leady thing around 3.15 ish.
It sticks out and detracts from the lead you have there IMO.
 
Let me say though that this is epic and a brilliant piece of composition/playing/production and mix - top job.




Got it, and I hear what you are saying. Overall, I think I boosted the acoustic too far and the entire mix is tilted to the right. I'll adjust the acoustic in those spots and pull it down a bit overall as well. Also, part where the acoustic competes with the lead is due to the fact that the lead wasn't there when I recorded the acoustic. The acoustic was the lead during that part. Of course, as thing changed, I couldn't decide which part I liked better, so they fight. I'll adjust it to sit better with everything else going on in that section.
 
I also think I may need to add a bit more low-mid "plunk" to the bass. Thoughts on that?
 
Regards,
Dan 


Everything else sits well as far as I am concerned. Adjusting that one item might help others pop so I wouldn't go too crazy. It's really very good.
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/26 12:42:54 (permalink)
Works here Dan, so who is going to be your director of choice for the film

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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/26 14:13:28 (permalink)
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Works here Dan, so who is going to be your director of choice for the film




I'm thinking Quentin Tarantino...lol.
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/26 14:24:44 (permalink)
Dan, this is really an interesting tune - every bit of it is excellent. You are one good musician.

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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/28 03:48:23 (permalink)
Just wow, The production on this is in my mind is any bit as good as professional commercial releases. There were parts where I could hear the same quality on Joe Satch albums. Brilliantly done. 
 
 
Oh, the tune's not bad too! ;) 

 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/28 04:04:42 (permalink)
Hey, Dan,
 
Wow this is literally like taking a musical journey, one that really sounds fantastic!
 
Great composition, arrangement and performances, and I love the richly textured instrumentation and how all the elements flow smoothly throughout the crystal clear mix.
 
Excellent stuff, Dan, pro quality all the way!
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/28 04:45:26 (permalink)
Good work! Everything is sounding very professional. I'm losing the melody sometimes though, maybe doubling or more gain when the acoustic guitar is playing the melody. The intro is great!

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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/28 08:18:37 (permalink)
 
 
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Excellent Dan - really unexpected when the double time drums kick in and then the dance feel but I love it.
My only slight nit would be maybe the acoustic guitar panned to the right could come down in the mix - I found myself hearing that over everything else at times.
Brilliant though




Are there specific moments where the acoustic is too loud? There are parts where it is the lead, and there are others where it is a supporting instrument, so I am looking for specific problem times to focus on.
 
Thanks!
Dan
 




Back now - the acoustic that is panned right - starts at 0.13 and ends 0.43 (when the same sound becomes more of a lead). Then it comes back in at 2.46 and turns into a leady thing around 3.15 ish.
It sticks out and detracts from the lead you have there IMO.
 
Let me say though that this is epic and a brilliant piece of composition/playing/production and mix - top job.




Got it, and I hear what you are saying. Overall, I think I boosted the acoustic too far and the entire mix is tilted to the right. I'll adjust the acoustic in those spots and pull it down a bit overall as well. Also, part where the acoustic competes with the lead is due to the fact that the lead wasn't there when I recorded the acoustic. The acoustic was the lead during that part. Of course, as thing changed, I couldn't decide which part I liked better, so they fight. I'll adjust it to sit better with everything else going on in that section.
 
I also think I may need to add a bit more low-mid "plunk" to the bass. Thoughts on that?
 
Regards,
Dan 


Everything else sits well as far as I am concerned. Adjusting that one item might help others pop so I wouldn't go too crazy. It's really very good.



I've updated the Bandcamp track just now. Learned yet another lesson on judging when a mix is done: After checking the MONO mix, also swap left and right channels and see if the mix still "sounds" balanced. I got so close to this one and so used to hearing where everything was panned that I didn't recognize the tilt in the panning.
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/28 08:20:03 (permalink)
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Dan,
 
Outstanding production, love it from start to finish.  Your mix and performance are 10 of 10..  Lot of twists and turns and good listening.
 
Regards




Thank you Mark! You've been very helpful to me on past mixes and I appreciate your input.
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/28 08:21:38 (permalink)
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Dan, this is really an interesting tune - every bit of it is excellent. You are one good musician.




Thanks Mark! As usual, this one didn't turn out at all like I had planned. Each one seems to have a mind of its own, lol.
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/29 08:24:23 (permalink)
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Just wow, The production on this is in my mind is any bit as good as professional commercial releases. There were parts where I could hear the same quality on Joe Satch albums. Brilliantly done. 
 
 
Oh, the tune's not bad too! ;) 




Thank you Gus! I appreciate the kind comments.
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/29 09:12:52 (permalink)
Great work there - good mix, evocative, atmospheric

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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/29 16:10:45 (permalink)
Great tune Dan, I really enjoyed. I can certainly hear this in a Western movie.

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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/29 16:56:54 (permalink)
Hi Dan,

Sorry,sorry ,from where I am ,the previous mix with the acoustic guitar upfront was not that bad....
Now I know what this composition reminds me.( Though I am aware that sometimes we do not like to be linked to another artist.)
So .. The intro reminds me a tune played by Kelly Joe Phelps.( sorry I cannot remember the title but it is an album where Bill Frisel holds the guitar here and there.)
So tastes and Colors......everyone feels things one ´s own way.

All the best.

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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/29 17:02:10 (permalink)
Dan,
 
Cinematic, expansive, and atmospheric instramental with a clear and bright mix. I like the clean and melodic guitar lines. 
 
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Re: A Girl...And A Gun (A Love Story) 2015/10/31 07:48:53 (permalink)
Bob Oister
Hey, Dan,
 
Wow this is literally like taking a musical journey, one that really sounds fantastic!
 
Great composition, arrangement and performances, and I love the richly textured instrumentation and how all the elements flow smoothly throughout the crystal clear mix.
 
Excellent stuff, Dan, pro quality all the way!
Bob




Thanks Bob! I tried telling a story with this one.
 
Regards,
Dan

Mixing is all about control.
 
My music:
http://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/ or https://soundcloud.com/dcumpian Studiocat Advanced Studio DAW (Intel i5 3550 @ 3.7GHz, Z77 motherboard, 16GB Ram, lots of HDDs), Sonar Plat, Mackie 1604, PreSonus Audiobox 44VSL, ESI 4x4 Midi Interface, Ibanez Bass, Custom Fender Mexi-Strat, NI S88, Roland JV-2080 & MDB-1, Komplete, Omnisphere, Lots o' plugins.    
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