A Quick Poll Out Of Curiosity...

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2013/03/01 17:58:06 (permalink)

A Quick Poll Out Of Curiosity...

Have you found that X2 is more stable, less quirky if....


1. X2 was installed as a completely new install with no previous installations of Sonar?

2. X2 was installed over an existing installation of Sonar X1d or earlier?

Trying to establish Cakewalk's ideal formula for a completely stable X2 system. Their Namm Show rigs appear to have very little else on them but the current company offerings.

Thanks in advance

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    jb101
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    Re:A Quick Poll Out Of Curiosity... 2013/03/01 18:47:27 (permalink)
    X2 installed on top off/beside X1d on my DAW, and it's not quirky here.
     
    As I haven't had a fresh install of X2, I cannot comment on whether it would be an improvement.  I can't see how it could be any better with a fresh install for me, unless it would mix all my tracks for me with a Talent VST.
    edited for clarity having read slartabartfast's post below
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    Re:A Quick Poll Out Of Curiosity... 2013/03/01 18:58:19 (permalink)

    Have you found that X2 is more stable, less quirky if...



    ???


    How many people have installed it both ways? If you are looking for a meaningful comparison of stability, you need to have both installations done on the same machine/system. The best most users are going to be able to tell you is that their installation is stable or not so stable, and what it was installed over (if anything) vs a new installation on a clean machine. Very few people will be able to answer if it is more stable if installed one way or the other. And there is a built in bias because many clean installations are going to have been done on a new machine, or over a newly installed OS. That is the way mine was installed, and it is not seriously quirky to date, but I have no idea what would have happened if I had installed it "over" an earlier version. Incidentally, it does not install "over" a previous version but "beside" an existing one i. e. the new installation is a separate application. If you do try to install it on top of (to the same folder) as a previous version you are asking for some serious problems.




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    Re:A Quick Poll Out Of Curiosity... 2013/03/01 19:02:01 (permalink)
    X2a Producer running along with X1d without difficulty. It would have a bunch of older versions but this is a relatively new computer and only has the versions that were released during it's lifetime. I do not know how the box would run with a clean install not having performed one and do not plan to do so.
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    Re:A Quick Poll Out Of Curiosity... 2013/03/01 20:36:36 (permalink)
    In my opinion, you only need one version of Sonar on your machine. If you really want stability, uninstall everything, delete registry keys, delete folders etc, and just go with X2 with the X2a patch. I believe there is a step by step uninstall on this forum somewhere that will totally take it off your machine.

    Though Sonar shares a few things amongst versions, X2 is installed in it's own folder and sort of does it's own thing like the other Sonar versions. The only thing you MAY get an issue with is plugins from newer versions. Or...once you uninstall older versions, those plugs will no longer appear.

    So if you need the older plugs, you just do a custom install of that version of Sonar that contains those plugs and you can add them to your Sonar X2 experience.

    To be honest with you, the only reason I keep a few versions of Sonar on my machines is in case there is a problem. For example, 8.5 is still my work horse. So it stays on my machines no matter what. If there is an X3 and it does surface, I'll probably remove X1 as I like X2 better and so far, X2 is proving to be pretty rock solid for me. I had my first crash last night and haven't seen one in months. It's always Kontakt that does it though, so I can't blame Sonar. Kontakt and me have never gotten along. I can't wait for something to come along and smoke the things that I need it for so I can uninstall it and burn it.

    But my 3 versions are only here if there is some sort of compatibility issue. I save my projects with the name of the program used in the title so I cut down on possible "version" compat issues. On any pc, less is more if you can do things that way. :) I've only had one instance where a newer version of Sonar messed up an older one. It was a nightmare to fix, but I nailed it. But I've not seen anything since then and that was some time ago.

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    Marcus Curtis
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    Re:A Quick Poll Out Of Curiosity... 2013/03/01 21:51:38 (permalink)
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    Have you found that X2 is more stable, less quirky if...



    ???


    How many people have installed it both ways? If you are looking for a meaningful comparison of stability, you need to have both installations done on the same machine/system. The best most users are going to be able to tell you is that their installation is stable or not so stable, and what it was installed over (if anything) vs a new installation on a clean machine. Very few people will be able to answer if it is more stable if installed one way or the other. And there is a built in bias because many clean installations are going to have been done on a new machine, or over a newly installed OS.

    I Purchased Sonar X2 when it first came out. I installed it with X1D still on my computer. I ran some tests. It was a little bit buggy for me at first. Then the quick fix was released and it solved the main issues I was having with the release. I used it for a little while like that.  A month later I reformatted my hard drive and did a clean install of X2 without installing X1. I really noticed no difference in the way the program operated. Having Sonar X1D installed played no roll on the stability of X2, at least on my machine. 


    Every year I will reformat the hard drive and reinstall the operating system. Everything runs faster for a while and it is like getting a new computer. Having done the install both ways (with X1d and without X1d) I can tell you that having Sonar X1 D on my computer was never a factor as to how well X2 worked.  

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    Re:A Quick Poll Out Of Curiosity... 2013/03/04 08:35:48 (permalink)
    I installed Win 8 and X2/A over XP and sonar 8.53 and had loads of serious quirky behaviour.
    I then installed Win 8 on a clean C drive and loaded X2/A and I'm very pleased with the outcome.

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