A Review of the new Playa Hip Hop VST Instrument

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2009/02/04 22:47:26 (permalink)

A Review of the new Playa Hip Hop VST Instrument

What's Up all,

I purchased the Playa Hip Hop Vst Instrument from Guitar Center for $99 after checking out the online demo videos. However, after installing it and using it, I found a lot of limitations that shuts down a user's flow and creativity.

I submitted a review/complaints to Sonivoxmi for suggestions to improve their product. You can read what I sent them. But in the meantime, I want to make you aware of some things so you can make a better decision as to whether you want to cop this or not.

Peace,
JAB

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Greetings All,

Subject: The Playa Instrument (A New User's Feedback)

Although the product is new and different, there are a few issues that I hope you address in future updates. As of now, although you have my money and investment, there are some things that makes Playa limiting in production uses.

1. There is no browser. Selecting patches is terrible. I have to manually dig for a patch from the windows pop up menu everytime I want a new patch, layout, etc. There needs to be a down menu (e.g., web browser bookmarks menus, Spectrasonics, Native Instruments, UltimateSoundbank, and most other vsts). It stiffles creativity to have to manually dig through folders, only to find a patch that is not appropriate and go through the tunnelling all over again.

2. The way the kits are mapped out across the keys are non-inspiring and hinder creativity, because all of the kicks are contiguous, followed by contiguous snares, and so on. So if I load a kit and want to play it like a drum machine, I have to stretch my fingers out beyond recognition in order to play a kick, snare, hi hat, and cymbal live. Most plugins map kits as one kick followed by one snare, then hi hat and so on. Then repeat with the next set until the keyboard is full.

3. Please add midi-out capability like alot of other synths (e.g Fxpansion GURU). The fact that this thing can play mapped chords is awesome!!1 Being able to drive other VSTis with Playa's midi out in a host would be awesome and open up Playa as a goto tool for production.

4. When someone maps a controller to the pads (like a MPD24), the user should be able to save these settings. Instead, a user has to manually re-learn all of the pads to a midi controller EVERY time a new instance of Playa is reloaded or a project containing Playa is reactivated.

5. There is no mix and match capability to build you own kits with the internal bundled samples. It's already bad enough that users can't import there own samples. The user should be able to at least get a kick from one kit, assign it to a pad, then get a snare from a totally different Playa kit and assign it to another pad, and then be able to save that as a User Kit. This would open up Playa as a serious contender. Currently Fxpansion Guru and Motu BPM let you do this.

6. The transpose and the tone knobs essentially do the same thing. Just one is more of a cent vs. octave pitch knob. I was hoping that we would be able to transpose the actual keymapping of the notes for a loaded instrument. We can use the pitch wheel for what the knobs are currently doing. Now if you let transpose knob be able to independantly change the pitch of an individual pad or key, then this would be more useful.

7. The device does not let you play both Pads and keys simultaneously. if the user has a drum pad controller (e.g. Akai MPD24) and a midi keyboard, he/she could play the drum pads but also play the remaining unmapped keys via the midi keyboard in a host application (e.g. Sonar, Cubase, etc).

8. The note retrigger feature is a good start, but it does no good for recording midi notes in a host. It would be nice if the retrigger for a pad was set to, for example 1/32, then 1/32 midi notes should be recorded to midi in the host. Instead it just records one long note when you hold down the pad. So on playback in the host, you just hear one note. That's it. No retriggering is played back. It defeats the whole purpose of using it to compose in a host.

9. An of course, if the user could import his/her own samples to make his/her own kits (or at least purchase add-on kits from SONiVOX MI), that would make the product more attractive.

Overall, this product has good potential. But I hope you seriously consider my inquiries/suggestions. I only want to help. Especially since I am a user now. I feel to constrained with the tool to use it too often. But with these enhancements, it would definitely be a better tool. I think any user would be willing to pay for an upgrade to get these enhancements. I know I would. Thanks for your time and support.

Best regards,
JAB3


Sincerely,
JAB3
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    JAB3
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    RE: A Review of the new Playa Hip Hop VST Instrument 2009/02/05 14:41:23 (permalink)
    I guess this was not really a review then, according to other people's post here. So I apologize for the post. However, I did contact Sonivoxmi with this letter, and they responded. They admit that there are some shortcomings, but said that they were extensively looking at improvements/enhancements (many of which were on my list).

    They also acknowledged that this was their 1st time into the software instrument business. So there is room for growth.

    In summary, for a synopsis of the things that I do like about Playa. See below. Overall, it has potential. I was just wanting to give people heads up is all.

    1. The Playa has two modes (A Pad Mode; A Keys Mode). For the key mode, any instrument you select is spanned across the vst's keyboard, where the Pads will start playing at C3 or C4 (I can't remember). In key mode you can play like a normal instrument. Pad mode is straight forward. But the interesting thing about PAD mode is that you can pick and chose which keys get mapped to a pad. You can even assign multiple keys to one pay (aka chords for musical instruments, or layer drums in the case of drum kits).

    2. Even better, Playa comes with a set of what are called layouts. These are settings that configure the pads. So say for instance you chose to load a "chord" layout (say C Minor or whatever), then the pads will play through the different chords in that key. This is super for producers who don't know music theory, but need to just jump in and lay some chords. They also have dance chord layouts, etc to configure the pads.

    These are the two items I like. Beyond that, Playa is comparable to any of the other instruments out there. There is however a slightly limited library.

    For more information see this video.
    http://www.sonivoxmi.com/ProductDetail.asp?Item=CDPlaya&Fr=InfoCdPlayaVideos

    Sincerely,
    JAB3
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    RE: A Review of the new Playa Hip Hop VST Instrument 2009/02/14 12:40:59 (permalink)
    Yeah, the lack of sample import was a deal breaker for me. Midi out would be a decent work around but it seems it lacks that as well. Though I must admit, when I saw it at GC for $99 I was tempted to get it anyway. The concept is cool and it has some really cool features but it falls a little short. If they update it soon I might still consider picking it up .
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    JAB3
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    RE: A Review of the new Playa Hip Hop VST Instrument 2009/02/14 13:35:32 (permalink)
    It's not going to stay $99 for long. IMO, I would still get it and wait for the updates. Especially since Sonivoxmi has acknowledged the shortcomings; indicated that changes are on the way; and this is their first vsti plugin.

    Sincerely,
    JAB3
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