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A Strummy Strat?
Well now that I know Grants alright I thought I'd show what I've been working on. The reason for the question mark is because this will not be a Strat as we know. Steve requested a Gibson scale. We originally started out giving some thought to a '58 Flying V but that changed. So I'm going to build a HOT metal guitar with the body and head shape of a Strat. The head will be tilted like a Gibson and will be a 24.625 scale. ( which is the same scale on LP) From what I can gather it's called a 24 and a half..?..I don't understand Gibson...it seems like they just can't get happy with a scale length.lol. What you see; Flamed maple top. Mahogany back, Maple and Wendge neck , Double -action truss rod with two graphite rods. I'll be laminating the head with flame maple. It'll be loaded with two buckers, vol, tone and blender (no switch) a Schaller hard tail roller bridge and Gotoh locking tuners. All gold hardware. Naturally that's if all goes well. Since I've been busy you got lucky and missed a lot of stuff but here's a couple of shots of the progress. Note; I really don't know how to grade wood but I'm using a one piece flame maple top rather than bookmatched which I think is pretty special. And Steve wants it dyed red...deep red...and I've never dyed wood....ya, a little nervous 'bout that.....so we'll see. Thanks Steve for the faith brother.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/28 22:00:21
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Nice! You got time in the future for a David Gilmour knock off Strat? Hehe. I'll be following this one for sure... I'm a Strat man to the end.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/28 22:24:57
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Looking nice. Does the neck get dyed red too or just the top?
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/28 22:40:08
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/28 23:10:07
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I don't know... With how his others have turned out, I'm not sure I'd want to have it dyed if it was me! (But, if you DO get it dyed, make sure you check out the best procedures Spacey - I know there's several steps required including a darker base that you sand off that makes the grain pop, several more layers that are slightly sanded then a bunch of thin laquer layers on top of all that!)
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/28 23:53:57
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Zuma unless there's something I'm not aware of the Gilmour pup choice can be installed on any Strat. pre-wired on a pickguard. I don't remember reading that anything else was special about his...such a V neck. (sorry you missed the build on the Strat I built for myself....my very first build. Here's a link if ya want to check it out.) Drew, we weren't planning on that but there is something I want to try... It may be a common thing, I don't know but I'm going to run a test and if what I'm thinking works then I'll run it by Steve. The neck is hard maple, not flamed The laminate I'll be putting on the head will be dark red. Ebony Craig with abalone fret and side dots. I did run some crazy ideas by Steve and he agreed. lol Craigb, you're correct, it will be a black base and there is sanding required. Sure not going in blind but no experience sure makes me wonder if I've asked myself all the correct questions. Quality of the wood for taking the dye evenly is an area of doubt. I'd feel better if I knew more or if one can even know up front. I sure it turns out with first attempt as the neck pocket carving on this went sweet. I'll sure be doing some scraps first!
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 00:06:53
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Space, you're keeping me on the edge of my seat... In a few years when I can afford another instrument, I'll be knocking on your door.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 00:24:52
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spacey Zuma unless there's something I'm not aware of the Gilmour pup choice can be installed on any Strat. pre-wired on a pickguard. I don't remember reading that anything else was special about his...such a V neck. (sorry you missed the build on the Strat I built for myself....my very first build. Here's a link if ya want to check it out.) I was just recalling the one they had up for sale from the custom shop at Sweetwater... something like 8 or 9 grand for the damn thing, lol. My buddy back east bought the pre wired pick guard. He loves it but I've yet to hear it. Anyway, you do nice work that's for damn sure.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 00:27:11
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It looks like it's going to be another winner.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 02:23:29
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spacey Craigb, you're correct, it will be a black base and there is sanding required. Sure not going in blind but no experience sure makes me wonder if I've asked myself all the correct questions. Quality of the wood for taking the dye evenly is an area of doubt. I'd feel better if I knew more or if one can even know up front. I sure it turns out with first attempt as the neck pocket carving on this went sweet. I'll sure be doing some scraps first! If you'd like I can put you in touch with the guy who made my customs. He simply made guitars for the love of making them like you do. I know he's gone through a lot of trial and error learning how to stain and what stains work with what types of wood.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 05:43:47
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 05:50:08
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What Wookiee said.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 06:54:08
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Another masterpiece in the works, looks grand.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 07:07:10
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You do very nice work Michael.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 07:43:29
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A body more beautiful than Imogen Thomas isn't it? (especially made for interesting gigs)
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 08:07:06
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Jonbouy A body more beautiful than Imogen Thomas isn't it? (especially made for interesting gigs) what are you smoking this morning? Michael - these works of art are truly beautiful. I'm sure they sound as good as they look or you wouldn't have these guys clamouring at your door for more! excellent craftsmanship!
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 09:24:20
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Beagle Jonbouy A body more beautiful than Imogen Thomas isn't it? (especially made for interesting gigs) what are you smoking this morning? I'm not sure. I'm thinking perhaps I may have bumped my head during the night. Perhaps I should ask to be transferred back to the padded room today...
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 09:42:25
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Russell.Whaley Space, you're keeping me on the edge of my seat... In a few years when I can afford another instrument, I'll be knocking on your door. That is the highest compliment that a luthier could receive Russell and I thank you. I can't tell you about "afford". I can tell you that I do not "sell" guitars and I can't honestly say that I don't "profit". I've stated many times that building and selling guitars on this forum is something I think would be morally wrong. I post these builds for the owner of the guitar. They are sharing there build here. I ask them when I start building if they want it posted. I enjoy doing it because it's an interest that I enjoy hearing others thoughts about. The instrument information, other than the build, is known only to myself (wife) and owner. So the "afford or sell" part would have to be told by them. The "profit" part is easy....I'm honored to be building and the folks I've built for have put trust in me to build - that gives me the opportunity to learn! Now that's profit. Just imagine how much it would cost for me to leave my job for months and pay for classes and living expenses....it's a win-win for the owner and myself. I hope down the road we can share a build Russell. I'd be honored. Zuma...thank you. Old55- I sure hope so! But man that's what's so exciting to me....at any time that wood can change everything. Craigb- that is a very nice offer. If he has a site I'd love to visit and drop him a line. I'm not really sure how to tell you how I feel about how I get my answers to build questions....so I'll just leave it at, thank you. Thanks Wookiee! Thank you Alex! Thanks Grant! Thanks James! Thank you Jon! Thank you Reece! Man I got to tell you guys.... I appreciate the kudos very much but it seems strange....you see I'm posting the projects for the owner. It seems like the kudos should be going to them for their choices made....does that seem strange? I'm celebrating their guitar and getting compliments and I know that's the natural thing to happen...or even get some things going south if the project warrants..... I just don't want you thinking I'm posting these projects for me. Sure I like to have the approval of my peers but this is about something very different for me. It's about a player getting to enjoy having a custom made guitar...that they will love to play. Hell I don't know how to say it....it's all perspective I guess...just fun and I hope it's fun for everybody. Mike
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 10:13:10
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It's not strange. You're simply being humble, which underscores the fact that you're a good guy. I'm glad you're displaying the pics and detailing the journey. All the myriad auto and custom bike shows on the tube and what not... hell I'd rather tune into the Discovery channel and watch you build custom guits. An artist should never be embarrassed to display his/her art. Somewhere down the road I'll throw a wad of cash at you for a custom purple and black Strat... with either chrome or black hardware... much to decide... yes, much to decide. Hehehe.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 10:16:03
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It is fun and it's fun to see your projects. I love that "Alembic" look.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 10:40:22
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Keep up the great work Michael!!! Looking Good!!!
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 12:35:04
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It seems like the kudos should be going to them for their choices made But most of them could only put it together with Photoshop.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 13:04:16
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Michael, this is just unbelievable work that your doing. I am impressed beyond words. I was going to suggest some test scraps, especially for seeing how the flame maple would take the base dye, but I see you have that all thought through. I should have known . Woods that have alternating areas of denseness can be really tricky like that, but your scraps will tell you the story. Congratz on your progress to date.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 13:37:56
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Stunning Michael. I can't wait to see it next year when I visit Chez Strummy. I may consider taking the Spacey "Bapu" Bass with me if for nothing else than having a pic of both of us holding our babies. Now, how do we get Grant to the UK at the same time?
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 13:48:35
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spacey Man I got to tell you guys.... I appreciate the kudos very much but it seems strange....you see I'm posting the projects for the owner. It seems like the kudos should be going to them for their choices made....does that seem strange? I'm celebrating their guitar and getting compliments and I know that's the natural thing to happen...or even get some things going south if the project warrants..... I just don't want you thinking I'm posting these projects for me. Sure I like to have the approval of my peers but this is about something very different for me. It's about a player getting to enjoy having a custom made guitar...that they will love to play. Hell I don't know how to say it....it's all perspective I guess...just fun and I hope it's fun for everybody. Mike we don't think that Mike! and it doesn't seem "strange" at all - it just seems fitting for your personality. you're not in it for praise - we know that. but we give it freely anyway because we appreciate the beauty and skill and the heart, soul and sweat you put into these works of art.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 14:03:21
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spacey Man I got to tell you guys.... I appreciate the kudos very much but it seems strange....you see I'm posting the projects for the owner. It seems like the kudos should be going to them for their choices made....does that seem strange? I'm celebrating their guitar and getting compliments and I know that's the natural thing to happen...or even get some things going south if the project warrants..... I just don't want you thinking I'm posting these projects for me. Sure I like to have the approval of my peers but this is about something very different for me. It's about a player getting to enjoy having a custom made guitar...that they will love to play. Hell I don't know how to say it....it's all perspective I guess...just fun and I hope it's fun for everybody. Mike When I (we) see your work, it's very obvious that a bit of your soul goes into each of these builds, and seeing the guitar emerge from its materials is a wonder to see. Art should be appreciated, and it means much that you're willing to allow us to be part of the process. Blessings, Russ
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spacey
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/29 14:50:57
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Zuma, hopefully someday we can share the trip. I know we could make it fun. JHughs, most excellent. Thanks Mike! Greg, lol and I can't. I just have to imagine. Phil...geeze man....thank you. I'm waiting on some stuff and will start testing when it arrives. If anything of interest happens I'll post. If it goes as planned then the real interest may be later on when I'm going to attempt something...I'll keep that to myself for awhile. It does relate to Drews question about the neck. Bapu, it is to me too. Steve has suggested a pretty amazing combination of ideas to me. It's different enough to be requiring me to spend a lot of time planning my moves but it is also a design that I'm sure wanting to see and hear. To have a picture of you guys together....well that would be on my wall. And "prize" just doesn't seem to be enough....treasured, that's it. Thank you Reece. I appreciate your words. And we are a very supportive group of each other. It's just that new folks come in and I feel there are aspects of this that could be taken different than the real intention. After all, my goal is to create an instrument that may not be obtainable any other way. So I strive to supply something "special". Something for the player and something very special for myself. Something that I just don't feel could happen in "doing business" in the sense that I understand it. "Profit" in these projects is not money but something we can all share. If the projects are enjoyed and information given that can help somebody that wants to build.... If the owner gets an instrument without all the "business"... If I get to learn and build.... Everybody gets to profit.....and so far I think it's worked out very well. I'm sure glad about that and don't know of another group of folks I'd rather do this trip with. Thank you Russell. It is really fun building Russell because at the same time I'm trying not only to put myself in the build but also the person I'm building for....may sound kinda weird but I think we all may get this "visual" and personality "image" of the folks here ...or maybe it's just me...but anyway I think about them while I'm building. I listen to their music and I imagine how this guitar could make the music they want. I sure hope that Bapu and Grant can feel that...I think they can....I know it's there because it's just a weird feeling I get from the instrument when I plug it in for the first time....they do talk to you.....or I'm just nuts. lol. ( even crazier is they start talking in the beginning...I just don't know what they're saying. Maybe that is something that comes with time.) Very cool my friends....thank you all. Mike I started using Mike because Steve asked what I preferred....he said Mike was easier to type LOL. That British humor is just good stuff.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/30 16:03:37
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Got the Mahogany ruff cut and control cavity. Fret slots cut. ( Gibson 24.625 scale length) One can get a table saw type blade for cutting the slots. The easiest method is to build a sled to keep the fretboard square to blade. Unfortunately my table saw didn't have groves on both sides of the blade for the sled so I bought a cheap table saw and built a precision top/case and transferred the workings. Took a little modification that required welding. (just in case somebody runs into the same problem) You can see that the quality of Ebony has been lowered. Most all that I have seen has the light gray. I do dye it. Even though the body parts are ruff cut, after I glue them in place I'll sand very close to the line before I router. It's safer, easier on the tool and lessons the odds of having a blow-out. I press the frets in and I do use black super glue on them. I've heard it helps with tone...I don't know. A good thing to do is run a triangular type file over each slot. Fret wire is not perfect so this allows the fretwire to set down on the fretboard nice when pressed. I do hammer the fret ends to assure a nicely set fret. I'll be putting a 12" radius on this one.....after I shape it.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/30 19:25:12
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Spacey, I don't know your costs, or really what is involved. But it looks like you could be one of those rare people able to make a living at something they love. Give it some thought - your guitars are a step above everything else I'm seeing in the shops.
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Re:A Strummy Strat?
2011/05/30 20:58:23
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Slugbaby - thank you for the compliment. If I were a luthier I probably would consider it. But I'm not. Maybe someday I'll be one but until then.... things are fine as is.
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