A fatal error has occurred in plugin 'guitar rig 3.'

I couldn't find any information on this error so I'll start a new topic.

What in the world is wrong here? This was working for a long time and then I created a new project and played with that. Then I tried to open the previous project and it starts throwing this error. I had updated Guitar Rig 3 and Sonar a couple of weeks ago and things were still working. What's the deal with this error?

1) I did run it in standalone last night and that's when the crashing started. I don't think it was the first time since I updated, but I'm not certain. I just renamed the .dll file and now it comes up without crashing. I'm not sure why. I'll rename it back to the original and try the reset of the plugin manager and rescan.

2) The version of the .exe in the \Program Files\Native Instruments is the same version as the .dll in \Vstpluins. 3.1.1.10.

Thanks for the quick response.

It's happening again. I haven't upgraded anything. I rescanned and reset the plugins and rebooted but it still craps out. Is there any more information to this error that may possibly lead to a cause?

ni's installers should have a big "run in stand-alone mode first" popup at the end of the installation (rather than the service centre installer, which updates itself on launch anyway); i've had no issues at all with ni's stuff so long as i've done that

does it work ok in other hosts? tried a gr3 reinstall?

bytheway i think it maters al VST's, but i only used the LP-64 EQ as an example couse i needed that one at the moment. And this all refers to the producer edition, that's the one i'm using.

ORIGINAL: ew

Is it only that one project or does it happen with any that you insert Guitar Rig into? How does GR run as a standalone?

ew

It works fine in another project that has 1 audio track with GR as a plugin. GR runs fine as a standalone.

ORIGINAL: pwal

ni's installers should have a big "run in stand-alone mode first" popup at the end of the installation (rather than the service centre installer, which updates itself on launch anyway); i've had no issues at all with ni's stuff so long as i've done that

does it work ok in other hosts? tried a gr3 reinstall?

Does the "run in stand-alone mode first" popup act any differently than running in stand alone manually? I'm sure I didn't choose that option even though it has also worked since then. It works fine in the same Sonar host with another project. The working one only has 1 instance of GR though so I don't know if it's one of the several tracks I've got GR on in the bad project. I haven't reinstalled GR yet. I'm afraid of losing all all my configurations.

Thanks.

I was able to get in through safe mode, but I don't know which instance is causing the problem. Would I have to delete each instance and later put them back in with the correct effects and configurations?

I just don't get it. This error keeps coming back and I'll start in safe mode and eventually only load the plugins that don't crash. Once it opens successfully, I save the project thinking that that will solve the problem. The project will either open about 20% of the time with no problem, or hang indefinitely, or give the guitar rig 3 crash error. Is there a limit to how many instances of a plugin you should have? It's just tempermental at best.

Here is the crash error:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Description:
Faulting application sonarpdr.exe, version 16.0.2.243, faulting module guitar rig 3.dll, version 3.1.1.10, fault address 0x00253d33.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 73 6f 6e ure son
0018: 61 72 70 64 72 2e 65 78 arpdr.ex
0020: 65 20 31 36 2e 30 2e 32 e 16.0.2
0028: 2e 32 34 33 20 69 6e 20 .243 in
0030: 67 75 69 74 61 72 20 72 guitar r
0038: 69 67 20 33 2e 64 6c 6c ig 3.dll
0040: 20 33 2e 31 2e 31 2e 31 3.1.1.1
0048: 30 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 0 at off
0050: 73 65 74 20 30 30 32 35 set 0025
0058: 33 64 33 33 0d 0a 3d33..

And this is when it hangs:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 10/25/2008
Time: 2:53:22 AM
Description:
Hanging application SONARPDR.exe, version 16.0.2.243, hang module hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 53 4f 4e 41 52 50 SONARP
0018: 44 52 2e 65 78 65 20 31 DR.exe 1
0020: 36 2e 30 2e 32 2e 32 34 6.0.2.24
0028: 33 20 69 6e 20 68 75 6e 3 in hun
0030: 67 61 70 70 20 30 2e 30 gapp 0.0
0038: 2e 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 .0.0 at
0040: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0048: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000

I have no clue what I could be doing wrong. Obviously, the program is going to be useless to me if this is how it is going to behave. I'm really going to be ticked if I get deep into a project and then this kind of thing happens and all the work is compromised. I'm in a "problem solved! --> wait, now the problem is back for some reason" loop. Is there any kind of explanation of this issue anywhere? I can't find it and I'm totally clueless and losing faith. (I don't want to be that customer)

As far as system, I'm running XPsp2, 2 GB RAM, Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz so it should be able to handle this, I assume.

I just get more lost by the minute with this error. I've renamed the vstplugins "guitar rig3.dll" file and installed the 3.1.0 upgrade. I was then able to open the project. Then when I tried to add GR3 as a plugin, it crashed with the same error. I don't know if I should reset all the plugins because I don't want to lose settings and that's not really an acceptable fix (not that Cakewalk is telling me to do that).

ORIGINAL: mirk

I just get more lost by the minute with this error. I've renamed the vstplugins "guitar rig3.dll" file and installed the 3.1.0 upgrade. I was then able to open the project. Then when I tried to add GR3 as a plugin, it crashed with the same error. I don't know if I should reset all the plugins because I don't want to lose settings and that's not really an acceptable fix (not that Cakewalk is telling me to do that).

1) You don't want to rename .dlls unless support tells you to.
2) If you didn't uninstall GR before you went through this, you've got conflicting versions if your stsndalone's 3.1.1 (the current release version).

Contact support before you make a really big mess.

ew