A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks?

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2009/04/21 13:43:25 (permalink)

A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks?

Does this exist somewhere under $300?

I have seen USB mixiers by behringer.. but I am assuming you only get the final mix right?

I want to record my band and then go how and EQ the tracks seperatly etc...
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    RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2009/04/21 13:51:15 (permalink)
    the behringer mixers are 2 channel USB only. actually, it's not even inside the mixer, it's an external "cable" like connector that connects the mains from the mixer to the usb port of the computer.

    alesis makes the multimix series but they are plagued with driver problems. some people get them to work, others have horrible experiences with them. do a search on this forum for alesis multimix and you'll see what I mean.

    how many channels are you wanting to record simultaneously?

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    RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2009/04/21 14:20:27 (permalink)
    Atleast 4 (for recording just drums) ..
    If the USB does nothing but record L/R then I meanswell get one the just plugs into to line in right?
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    RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2009/04/21 14:45:17 (permalink)
    You'll need a mixer that has 4 to 8 channels out...and an interface that also has multiple inputs (greater than 2) and Sonar.... to be able to record 4 (or more) tracks at the same time.

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    RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2009/04/21 15:06:54 (permalink)
    Thatll get expensive... That is why I was thinking through the power of USB 2.0 .. I could receive the multiple streams without a bunch of cables.. no ?
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    RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2009/04/21 23:48:00 (permalink)
    I don't know if this meets your needs but maybe? It looks pretty cool!

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    RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2009/04/22 04:01:35 (permalink)
    Alesis Multimix 8 USB 2.0 - $329

    Make sure you're looking at the USB 2.0 version and not the FireWire or USB version. Don't know much about it other than it exists, but I use the Alesis Multimix 16 FW...

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    RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2009/04/22 07:41:39 (permalink)
    That Zoom R16 looks good. I couldnt find info on the release date. Any idea?

    I just want something to recrod various tracks at the same time that I can then put to the comptuer for more modification.. and this thing looks to do exactly that without being too expensive and doing too much more
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    Re: RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/09/06 16:26:51 (permalink)
    so there is nothing under $500 that can record more than two channels?
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    Re: RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/09/08 01:33:39 (permalink)
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    Re: RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/09/08 08:45:31 (permalink)
    Why do you specifically want a mixer?

    There are plenty of multi channel interfaces around which will do what you want.

    If you're worried about monitoring/latency, you could always try using an analog desk with direct outs - hook these outputs straight up to your interface and into your computer.

    Now you can mix the live sound through the desk and get the raw signals recorded - best of both worlds

    If you do go down this route, make sure the direct outs are either pre-fader or switchable pre/post.

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    Re: RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/09/19 00:09:13 (permalink)
    G'day,

    Haven't been on here for a while, I guess I have a similar question

    I have a m-audio 8R, but I also want to get this Behringer eurorack RX1202FX.   I want to know how to get all channels seperately to the m-audio so I can basically see all the tracks individually in Sonar.    As far as I can tell people usually set up their mixers with just a audio L/R out to their interface and I can't understand how you would then get these individual tracks.    I had a look on youtube and there is one video that says: Mic/Guitar whatever into inputs on mixer, channel inserts on mixer into inputs on audio interface.    Don't really know what the channel inserts are, but it makes sense, at least you still have one "line" i guess for each channel.    Don't know if this is right or not?



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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/09/19 11:39:12 (permalink)
    If you want to record a "Band".......................................

    I'd look at a stand alone  "Hard Disk "  recorder.
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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/09/19 12:57:19 (permalink)
    http://www.audiomidi.com/...rack-Ultra-P10207.aspx

    not a mixer but will record 8 inputs simultaneously. you wanna eq each track? do it after the fact in Sonar/your DAW of choice.

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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/09/19 14:20:45 (permalink)
    This thread is from a year ago,,,?
    But anyway I have the Behringer and the USB is as stated just a cheap little RCA 2 channel box I gave away as it say " no drivers needed"
    Never trust any thing that makes that claim.

    The cheapest interface for this right now is still the Tascam us1641 it has up to 16 inputs under $300. I use it to record my band live and we use 12 channels into an old Acer laptop. The down side is the round trip latency turns out to be up around 20ms. This is not a problem for me because I don't use real time efx. LOts of users here have the Tascam and have no problems  other than the RTL which will not matter for live recording and overdubs. 

    To record multi channels from a mixer you need a digital mixer with a ADAT interface as far as I know. No way anything under $300 would do this , dream on.
    Analog mixers do not have A/D converters. If they do it will only be a stereo SPDIF.
    You might see the words USB on the box and then find out it's only a SPDIF in disguise. and no drivers too.
    Somebody mentioned Zoom- Anything of theirs I've used was super cheapo made and sounded bad.
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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/09/25 02:10:28 (permalink)
    http://www.phonic.com/en/helix-board-12-plus.html

    10 channels to the computer 2 track mix back. I had the firewire version and it was great until it crapped out. Got it fixed, and it crapped out again. Phonic then replaced it and that unit also failed (FX chip and firewire interface each time).

    I thought the new Behringers had more than 2 channels going to the computer? The new ones have the USB interface built in. 

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    Re: RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/09/25 02:13:46 (permalink)
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    so there is nothing under $500 that can record more than two channels?


    altima_bo just gave you a link to the Alesis, it's 299 at MF.

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    Re: RE: A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/11/15 15:11:35 (permalink)
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    msundst


    so there is nothing under $500 that can record more than two channels?


    altima_bo just gave you a link to the Alesis, it's 299 at MF.

    And I gave you a link to Phonic at $399

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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/11/15 15:30:43 (permalink)
    For what you want to do I think the best solution would be a USB interface (with good driver support) with enough inputs and a mixer that would connect analog. The mixer would need to have outputs on each channel that can be post EQ.  Even the expensive Mackie mixers only give you a tap point before the EQ, so you can't record with EQ, kinda useless design if you ask me.

    There are no mixers I know of that have USB and good driver support and none at all that will let you record the sound after the EQ (at any price).

    How many inputs total do you need ?
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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/11/15 16:02:14 (permalink)
    There is hardly anyway to get "cheap" and many channels.  The Presonus stuff can work - even the old Pod (or whatever they call it now) can be chained for 16 channels w/ preamps.  The echo stuff is highly recommended and probably a step up.  There 12X is $600 - but I don't know if that inludes preamps.  The TC Konnekt 48 does 12 X recording, but only 4 preamps.  However, it sounds great, they've got their drivers fixed and it is still cheap, realitively ($800).

    If you want an all-in-one cheap solution there are several - the zoom looks good or the tascam, but there are compromises.  Another option is something cheap but w/ ADAT.  The Behringer ADAT unit supposedly sounds good and adds 8 inputs w/ preamps.  If you can find a 2X2 unit and ADAT, you could make that work.  And SONAR's EQ/comps will be better than a low end mixers.

    Either live w/ the compromises or wait until you have enough cash to step up.   IT does cost money, tho I have found that you spend the same amount of money doing stereo as you do mulit-tracking, you just end up w/ better components.


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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/11/15 23:33:06 (permalink)
    I may be wrong but I think a good cheap route to go is a M-Audio 1010LT soundcard with 8 inputs/8 outputs ($279 7 years ago) and a Behringer UltraPatch Pro patchbay ($39 5 years ago) and use the M-Audio software mixer and/or Sonar mixer to record multiple instruments simultaneously.  I have this setup and though I have only had the need to record 4 seperate tracks at the same time it works flawlessly for me.  YMMV.

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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/11/16 00:32:59 (permalink)
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    For what you want to do I think the best solution would be a USB interface (with good driver support) with enough inputs and a mixer that would connect analog. The mixer would need to have outputs on each channel that can be post EQ.  Even the expensive Mackie mixers only give you a tap point before the EQ, so you can't record with EQ, kinda useless design if you ask me.

    There are no mixers I know of that have USB and good driver support and none at all that will let you record the sound after the EQ (at any price).

    How many inputs total do you need ?


    WRONG!

    The Phonic mixer has a pre / post firewire switch on each channel that allows the user to select each channel send (to the computer) either: pre low cut, pre EQ, post EQ or post fader. Also, their driver support is good (the mixer has a choice of either USB 2.0 or firewire on board).

     

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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/11/17 20:19:27 (permalink)
    Phonics- But didn't you say yours kept crapping out? :?

    The Tascam us1641 will record 16 channels (14 plus 2x SPDIF) and output 6 (4 plus 2x SPDIF)
    and it is only $200. I have had no problems so far. The most I've recorded is only 12 but I see no reason the others would not work. I use the SPDIF from a Yamaha O1V.
    What I like is it is a solid rack mount unit, not plastic like so many others. Most inputs are right on the front so it's user friendly.
    Negative is the new drivers they put out won't work for me. I'm still waiting to hear from other users who use windows 7 if they have issues with drivers Old drivers work fine on XP.
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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/11/18 03:20:42 (permalink)
    edirol m-16dx, also functions as a control surface

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    Re:A mixer with USB output that I can access the individual tracks? 2010/11/18 22:18:05 (permalink)
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    Phonics- But didn't you say yours kept crapping out? :? 

    YEAH! LOL
     
    I have another brand new one here in the box from their new USA distributer, don't know whether to e bay it or use it!
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