A plea for changes to the Piano Roll View

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2015/08/14 08:37:20 (permalink)
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A plea for changes to the Piano Roll View

I just bought sonar platinum and I have lingering issues that go back over a decade. I am crying as I write this message. I will pay $1000 to see it fulfilled. I am dead serious. I will pay whatever amount you deem fair to see it fulfilled.

I don't want to have to download an app like duckbar just to get what i want.

Simply put, I want to be able to copy across tracks in Piano Roll View. This means that if i highlight notes on a track in PRV, i want to select another track and left click+ ctrl to copy those notes that I have highlighted into the new track i have selected from the right track pane in PRV. This helps me to double parts or copy note values into other tracks on the fly without having to do any additional steps. As it is now, when i click the notes i have highlighted, it brings me back to it's track. This is not what I want. 

The "smart" tool. I don't want to click and drag to write my notes in PRV! I just want to click and viola! I have my note. I also would like to be able to highlight my notes by clicking and dragging over notes with the smart tool. It can all be possible with the smart tool, but for whatever reason, we are not allowed to tweak it. Id also like to right click over notes to delete them.

I do not want to have to use the keyboard to switch functions as i am unnecessarily forced to do. I do not want to switch views to manipulate notes as I want to. I get so jumbled up doing these tedious extra steps that i forget the notes im trying to write out on the fly because i spent too much time jumbling about!

Sonar has failed to differentiate for me for the past 10 years. They had it right with Sonar 2. Even Cakewalk 8!! I have spent alot of money on this product and it is the best thing out there, but it is not perfect. I really hope one day my simple requests will be fulfilled. 10 years is a long time. Please help.

If I am not clear, let me know and I will make a video to show you what I mean instead.

Best,

Daniel DeCastro.

A.A.S. Music technology (Queensborough Community College 2003)
A.S. Music theory (Queensborough Community College 2003)
B.A. Music Composition (NYU, 2005)
M.A. Music Composition (NYU, 2007)
M.A. Special Education 7-12 (Teacher's College, Columbia University 2012)<<< as you can see, i had to major in something else because sonar is no longer as it was when i was younger.. true story.
post edited by Ddamaged1 - 2015/08/15 10:19:28
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    Brando
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    Re: A plea for changes to the Piano Roll View 2015/08/14 10:25:02 (permalink)
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    i recommend (encourage) you contact Noel by PM and offer to work with someone at Cakewalk on establishing your workflow improvements. I support your ideas and your willingness to help to resolve the problem. Not sure Cake has the interest in doing anything about it (the standard boilerplate response is "there's no return in it").
    btw i also recommend you remove your private phone number from the public forum.

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    Re: A plea for changes to the Piano Roll View 2015/08/14 12:20:50 (permalink)
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    With respect delete your cell number immediately, you are likely to be bombarded with scam calls.

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    Re: A plea for changes to the Piano Roll View 2015/08/14 12:30:58 (permalink)
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    Btw if you have trouble switching views I would spend your money on getting a second monitor.

    I have to say I like the idea of piano roll view being put into an independent mode where necessary so it does not lose focus when other items are selected in other views.

    This could be achieved by having a lock button

    Have you tried mouse button right drag to select notes?

    Have you tried using the other tools apart from smart tool?

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    Re: A plea for changes to the Piano Roll View 2015/08/14 12:31:54 (permalink)
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    (+1 about the cell phone number)
     
    I don't understand the problem, OP. I can open two MIDI tracks in the PRV; select some notes from one track; select the second track, and paste into it.
     
    This is using the "Smart" tool and right-click-drag to select notes. If there are overlapping notes between tracks, I can choose to "hide" the track or tracks I don't want, and then perform the selection.
     
    Is this not streamlined enough? Is that the problem?
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    Re: A plea for changes to the Piano Roll View 2015/08/15 08:28:37 (permalink)
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    Ddamaged1
    If I am not clear, let me know and I will make a video to show you what I mean instead.

     
    That will be quite helpful (at least for me).



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    Re: A plea for changes to the Piano Roll View 2015/08/15 08:35:08 (permalink)
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    I like the idea that there is some magic thing that will make midi less tiring to work with.

    Frankly, I'm awful fast these days, compared with how I used to stutter along.

    Ctrl drag is how I usually copy.

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    Re: A plea for changes to the Piano Roll View 2015/08/16 19:03:59 (permalink)
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    Ddamaged1
    The "smart" tool. I don't want to click and drag to write my notes in PRV! I just want to click and viola! I have my note. I also would like to be able to highlight my notes by clicking and dragging over notes with the smart tool. It can all be possible with the smart tool, but for whatever reason, we are not allowed to tweak it. Id also like to right click over notes to delete them.



    Please up-vote this FR to bring back smart tool customization!
    http://forum.cakewalk.com...mappings-m3228674.aspx
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