sadicus
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A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
Guitar Rig 5 has a reference pitch control when set to: 432, the pitch sounds too high. (any GR5 users know how to set this up correctly?) compared to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ8KdqhHk0w and, well google 432 hz tone and you'll see what i mean. lol. will someone please post a usable A=432 hertz Reference Tone for Guitar? WAV MP3 VIDEO anything other than nazi stories. also why is the GR5 tone so high compared to the youtube video?
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/14 20:59:45
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Concert A is supposed to be 440. Bob Bone
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/14 22:01:41
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Concert A is supposed to be 440. A 440Hz is the arbitrarily agreed upon standard in most places, but not all. If you want to 432, you should do it. Just realize if you add other instruments, they will be to the standard. In modern terms, it essentially is going in between A 440 and Ab 415... but if that inspires you, go for it!
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/14 23:04:18
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Yeah, but synths and such are tuned to 440. Bob Bone
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/15 01:36:40
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call me crazy but I tune everything by ear, e.g: on a piano. usually dimension pro. but I don't use a lot of synths. I do on occasion, but most of my stuff is stringed instruments, drums, keyboard and a real piano which I will tune to that when doing real piano pieces. I've done this for years and never had a problem, I mean my music is in my signature you can have a listen for yourself. the only time I use a tuner is on stage when my band and I all have the same tuners, tuning to 435 (1/2 step down). this is only because in-between songs we don't stop like idiots saying: "hey, give me an E".
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/15 05:10:47
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Get a tone generator. I've not posted in this thread yet, even though tuning and tunings are something of a speciality/interest of mine. On first seeing your thread my initial thought was that this is the reference tuning the Third Reich used, so I didn't join in. I have read various theories about improving the sounds of perfect fifths, etc., but most of these appear to have been written by people with a fundemental lack of understanding of the laws of physics. A432 will not make you sound better. Practice will. @Charlie -A flat (for half step down) would be 415.3, not 435.
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/15 07:06:07
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I have a guest that insists on 444 hz as the A reference. He offered to explain why but I just reset the reference in his project and we went for it. SONAR makes it easy to do. best regards, mike
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/15 08:46:48
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It has varied over time and in different places, but to avoid the endless debate over it all, I use the one that the synth manufacturers have agreed on, which is 440. Lots of albums were released with slightly different tunings, some done by ear, and playback speed was often slightly adjusted as well, resulting in released recordings that were slightly different than 440. The international standard has been 440 since 1939. Here is a nice article on various tunings over the years: http://www.piano-tuners.org/history/pitch.html Bob Bone
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/15 08:53:16
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/15 08:57:27
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From the Wikipedia: In 1939, an international conference recommended that the A above middle C be tuned to 440 Hz, now known as concert pitch. As a technical standard this was taken up by the International Organization for Standardization in 1955 and reaffirmed by them in 1975 as ISO 16. The difference between this and the diapason normal is due to confusion over the temperature at which the French standard should be measured. The initial standard was A = 439 Hz ( info), but this was superseded by A = 440 Hz after complaints that 439 Hz was difficult to reproduce in a laboratory because 439 is a prime number. [7] [ edit]Current concert pitches Despite such confusion, A = 440 Hz is the only official standard and is widely used around the world. Many orchestras in the United Kingdom adhere to this standard as concert pitch. [8] In the United States some orchestras use A = 440 Hz, while others, such as New York Philharmonic and the Boston Symphony Orchestra, use A = 442 Hz. [9] The latter is also often used as tuning frequency in Europe, [2] especially in Denmark, France, Hungary, Italy, Norway and Switzerland. [10] Nearly all modern symphony orchestras in Germany and Austria and many in other countries in continental Europe (such as Russia, Sweden and Spain) tune to A = 443 Hz. In practice the orchestras tune to a note given out by the oboe, and many oboists use an electronic tuning device. When playing with fixed-pitch instruments such as the piano, the orchestra will generally tune to them—a piano will normally have been tuned to the orchestra's normal pitch. Overall, it is thought that the general trend since the middle of the 20th century has been for standard pitch to rise, though it has been rising far more slowly than it has in the past. Some orchestras like the Berliner Philharmoniker now use a slightly lower pitch (443 Hz) than their highest previous standard (445 Hz). [11][2] Many modern ensembles which specialize in the performance of Baroque music have agreed on a standard of A = 415 Hz. [2] An exact equal-tempered semitone lower than A = 440 would be 440/21/12 = 415.3047 Hz; this is rounded to the nearest integer. In principle this allows for playing along with modern fixed-pitch instruments if their parts are transposed down a semitone. It is, however, common performance practice, especially in the German Baroque idiom, to tune certain works to Chorton, approximately a semitone higher than A-440 (460–470 Hz) (e.g., Pre-Leipzig period cantatas of Bach). [12]
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/15 09:12:31
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/15 09:24:00
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I like Dave's quote from wiki where we see that there actually is no standard. Some people state there is a standards organization and that there is a standard... but only some people use that standard while other people use other standards and some even have other standards organizations. Physics doesn't care about integers, fractions, or irrational numbers... so it's probably gonna be ok no matter what you choose.
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/15 23:42:07
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@sadicus - back to your question, what you need to do in gr5 is set the reference tone on the tuner to 432 then adjust the little pitch box to the right of the tone switch to a2. that'll give you the tone you hear in the video exactly. i'm guessing you still had it set to c3.
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/16 03:05:41
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Sometimes a softsynth sounds sharp to me so I adjust it a bit flat until it sounds right. Then the next day it sounds flat, so I adjust it back again. Sometimes when I think a note sounds off-pitch, I check it with the tuner and find that it is correct after all. However, I have not been taking into account the possibility the different instruments may be using different tuning standards.
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Re:A=432 Hz Tone for Guitar, anyone?
2013/04/16 14:02:53
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@Jb101 @swamptooth Thank you for clearly understanding the posted question and responding appropriately.
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