AD2 Changing OH and Room Level dependent from the Snare(Seperate Output) Track Fader??

HI:)
 
Following Construction:
 
In Addictive Drums: 
Base, Snare, OH Level, Room Level, Bus Level as Seperate Outputs
 
In Sonar:
Addictive Drums Outputs to Tracks (5):
Base, Snare, OH Level, Room Level, Bus Level
 
I have OH and Room Levels on Base and Snare!
Now when I change the Snare Track Level, the OH and Room are staying so the OH and Room Level for the Snare will be more than before.
The same with Base Track Level.
 
If I group f.e. Base, Oh and Room together and I change the Track Level of the Base, the OH and Room Level for the Snare is changed too.
The same, if I group Snare, OH and Room Tracks
 
How can I fade/automate together:
 
Base, OH Level from the Base, Room Level from the Base
 
Snare, Oh Level from the Snare, Room Level from the Snare
 
I can't find any solution for this problem:(
 
thanks a lot;)
Bassman.

Hi. Maybe you could use quick grouping ?
Select the tracks, Ctrl click and drag fader. Hope it helps.
All the best.

Can you do a screen print of you console view, It's really confusing what you've written, and I feel the more you add, the more tangled it gets.

@kamikaze
 
I try:)
 
1 Base Track (Output AD Left Base)
1 Snare Track (Output AD Right Snare)
1 OH Track Stereo Output AD OH Stereo
1 Room Track Stereo Out AD Room Stereo
1 Bus Track Stereo.....doesn't matter at the moment!
 
I have different OH Level and Room Level for Base and Snare
 
So, if I decrease the Snare Track to make it less louder, the amount of OH and Room Level stays in OH and Room Track, cause I don't change the Level in AD, but in Sonar, the sound changes!
It schould change the OH and Room Level in Ad too, but I don't know how??
 
Changing the Level of the Snare Track should change the Level of OH and Room amount in Ad (not in Sonar)too, but it does not!
If I group Snare, OH and Room together, the level of the OH and Room amount of the Base Track is changing too, what I do not want to....
 
Snaretrack Level  -6 dB
OH Level Snare -15 dB
Room Level Snare -20 dB
 
Base Track  -3 dB (just for example)
OH Level Base -25 dB
Room Level Base -25 dB
 
Now if I change the Snare Track to -9 dB, OH and Room Outputs of AD are staying at  -15 and -20 dB, the Sound changes
If I do decrease Snare Track Level and OH and Room Level by 3 dB, the OH and Room Level for the Base are now -28 dB
 
You know what I mean?
 
If I decrease the Snare Track by 3 dB, the amount of the OH and Room Level in AD should decrease by 3 dB too, but NOT for the Base .....that's the problem!
 
I have to decrease the Snare Track and , in addition in AD the amount of the OH and Room Level, so for to make the Snare less louder I have to open the AD Window and change the depending amounts..
 
Difficult to mix.....for to hold the same sound for the Snare or the Base
 
Perhaps I can make a video for to clear it up;)
Bassman.
 
P.S. It's like the Base and Snare OH and Room Levels are PRE, not POST! By the way, that's it, can I switch the OH and Room Level of different Sounds in AD PRE and POST the Output L Base and Output R Snare of the Tracks in Sonar? NO!
The answer will be to have Envelopes of:
 
Base Track Volume
Snare Track Volume
Automation Envelope of OH Level Base
Automation Envelope of OH Level Snare
Automation Envelope of Room Level Base
Automation Envelope of Room Level Snare
Automation of Effects of Base and Snare
 
And then change together:
 
Base Track Volume, Automation Envelope of OH Level Base in AD, Automation Envelope of Room Level of Base in AD
 
Snare Track Volume, Automation Envelope of OH Level Snare in AD, Automation Envelope of Room Level of Snare in AD
 
And in Addition the Envelopes of the depending Effects in AD.
 
Difficult:(
 
 If I do all (Volume, OH level, room Level, EQ, Effect Levels in AD itself) it is no problem! If I do Volume and EQ in Sonar and the rest in AD, IT IS!
 
 
 
 

@brundlefly
 
>>It seems the OP would need to group the send level within AD to the output level of the Snare track in SONAR to >>get the desired effect. That will be difficult/awkward if not impossible (?).
 
Exactly that's the Problem;)
 
>>The quicker solution would be to control the Snare level with MIDI velocity, which will affect both the direct output >>to the Snare track, and the send to OH and Room buses. Of course this will also affect the timbre of the snare
 
Yessssss
 
>>want the effect of the drummer hitting the snare more softly, it would actually be preferable.
 
That is want I don't want in these Songs I'm working on!
 
>>Also be aware that the snare has a 'Buzz' setting that makes it resonate in sympathy with Kick hits that won't be >>affected by anything other than the 'Buzz' level.
 
the next Problem, but I don't want "Buzz" for that kind of music, so I set them to Zero....
 
But you know what I mean, it's not easy:)
 
thanks,
Bassman
 

Would the solution be to open 2 instances of AD?? One for the Base and one for the Snare?? For each of them 3 Tracks, Base, OH, Room, let us forget the Bus! Then group them together, 3 for Base, 3 for Snare.
 
Hmmmmm, now that I write it down, it could be the solution:)
 
Maybe, I'll give it a try tomorrow!!
 
Bassman.
 

I don't think the OP is looking for the most realistic sounding/working solution. He's going for a specific effect and it's kinda tricky to do.

EDIT:
Here's a thought - if you don't like that using midi velocity changes the timbre, you can modify that in AD2, making it so that all different velocities trigger nearly the same sample. This will still allow you to use midi velocity to control volume.

After trying, thinking, thinking trying I come to a result:
 
1. two instances of AD, one for the Base one for the Snare, grouping Base Track, OH level and room Level together!
 that works for Base and Snare, not if you do both together in one instance!
 
2. Make Envelopes of Base Track and the automation of OH and Room Level and increase or decrease them together
 
I don't see any other solution!!  But thanks for all who was involved in thinking about:)
 
Thanks,
Bassman.