lapasoa
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AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
E.G. I choose a beat file for my project , let's say a pop rock midi pattern. For chorus I choose a rock and rool groove midi pattern. Many times I find that the instrument volume of e.g. the snare of the new pattern is different from the volume of the snare of the previous pattern. Louder volume or lower volume. Anybody did find that?
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/04 12:36:27
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If it's all on the same Midi track driving the same snare then it's more or less certain that you need to look at the relative velocities.
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/04 12:47:52
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What Bristol_Jonesey said + some MIDI files come with CCs, that may cause volume differences.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 06:49:55
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/10/05 11:09:45
I've always thought it's inevitable, cause the beats are originally played by a real drummer.
Different rhythm or tempo, different intensity.. Maybe I'm just naïve :o)
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 08:25:13
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In AD2 in the BEATS section, you have 3 options, Beats Gallery, Shortlist and Transform.
'Transform' allows you to change the velocity and adjust the dynamics of the rhythms.
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 10:51:14
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Kalle Rantaaho
I've always thought it's inevitable, cause the beats are originally played by a real drummer.
Different rhythm or tempo, different intensity.. Maybe I'm just naïve :o)
FYI: The same thing can and does happen in EZDrummer, Superior Drummer, BFD and Steven Slate Drums. It's the nature of the things. Would you play Moondance and Come On Feel The Noize at the same velocities?
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 10:58:06
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Kamikaze
In AD2 in the BEATS section, you have 3 options, Beats Gallery, Shortlist and Transform.
'Transform' allows you to change the velocity and adjust the dynamics of the rhythms.
I haven't had a chance to experiment with the transform feature. If, for example, you crank up the velocity and drag a pattern into your drum track, does the higher velocity version go into your project while leaving the original pattern unchanged in the AD2 library?
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 11:08:41
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put different midi drum clips on their own midi tracks, salt to taste...
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 11:40:53
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bapu
It's the nature of the things. Would you play Moondance and Come On Feel The Noize at the same velocities?
Umm, yes, yes I would! Is that why I keep getting fired from bands?
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 11:46:41
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henkejs
Kamikaze
In AD2 in the BEATS section, you have 3 options, Beats Gallery, Shortlist and Transform.
'Transform' allows you to change the velocity and adjust the dynamics of the rhythms.
I haven't had a chance to experiment with the transform feature. If, for example, you crank up the velocity and drag a pattern into your drum track, does the higher velocity version go into your project while leaving the original pattern unchanged in the AD2 library?
Yes
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Kamikaze
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 11:50:25
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It's not just velocity range though, but accents too. It's worth playing with, its only a few controls, but makes the midi rhythm quite plastic
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lapasoa
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 12:53:29
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.....'Transform' allows you to change the velocity and adjust the dynamics of the rhythms.
If this is possible for every different pattern, then that makes sense.
Thanks a lot Kamikaze. It seems that one the way to go.
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 16:11:54
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I usually transform the clips after moving them to the PRV. Just highlight the "inappropriate clip" as a whole, and move the velocity slider (bottom view of PRV) until it's close to the one with the "right" velocity. If I really get picky, i'll do it separately for kick, snare, hihats, etc.
post edited by Slugbaby - 2016/10/05 16:33:38
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Kamikaze
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Re: AD2 Different intruments volume when you change the pattern
2016/10/05 23:09:56
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There's a little more to Transform than Velocity Scaling. I like the accents feature, although I I don't use the timing and the other feature (which I can't recall). The accents section of Transform I don't think you can do as easily in Sonar, it's pretty intuitive with the visual guide. With at least bassline playing you can find useful adjustments that sound natural and interesting before draging out to Sonar.
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