AI in DAW: Logic Pro's new update will detect and mark tempo

vladasyn
I am wondering when Cakewalk with catch up with new technologies. There also apps that use artificial intelligence to fill song with drum tracks and even create melodies and chords. What can Cakewalk offer in the near future? 
 
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/26/16936662/logic-pro-x-update-smart-tempo-chromaverb-namm
 
https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/31/17777008/artificial-intelligence-taryn-southern-amper-music
 
 
 

tlw
Logic’s tempo detection isn’t infallible and often needs sorting out by hand in the same way pretty much every DAW does it by allowing you to adjust transient markers and phrase length etc. Sonar/Cakewalk has had ways to detect audio tempo for quite some time, maybe you didn’t notice them.

I use Logic and think Sonar/Cakewalk handles MIDI better in many ways and Logic has annoyances of its own like every DAW does. Logic’s drummer instrument (a kind if built-in jamstix) is good though.

michael diemer
I just don't see the fun in having the software do everything. I prefer creating my own melodies, harmony etc. Guess I'm just old-fashioned...

BenMMusTech
We should not be using AI for creation...its a very slippery slop. Come on too...I mean writing drums isn't hard. Mostly, its 4 bars of time and then a bar of fill. I use notion 6 for all my initial midi writing, I then import either the audio or midi into Sonar for final processing. I can write drums really quickly now - a day. And it would be very hard to tell the difference between my drums and the real thing. My point being - instead of being lazy - learn some musical literacy. For one...its much more satisfying.

Brian Walton
Does it really matter if a particular part was created by a computer or a human?  As long as it is the human making the creative decision to include or exclude the part....I see no problem with it.  

Artificial intelligence to fill song with drum tracks and even create melodies and chords

JoeBaermann

Artificial intelligence to fill song with drum tracks and even create melodies and chords

Why not let it do the complete track while we are at it?
The the producer has to do nothing at all except for clicking start.

BenMMusTech

Brian Walton

BenMMusTech
We should not be using AI for creation...its a very slippery slop. Come on too...I mean writing drums isn't hard. Mostly, its 4 bars of time and then a bar of fill. I use notion 6 for all my initial midi writing, I then import either the audio or midi into Sonar for final processing. I can write drums really quickly now - a day. And it would be very hard to tell the difference between my drums and the real thing. My point being - instead of being lazy - learn some musical literacy. For one...its much more satisfying.

I checked some of your music via the links in your signature and what I heard - I certainly didn't think "drummer" was involved. 
 
Not a criticism, but I'd be surprised if you didn't agree that you are not creating parts in traditional, rock, jazz, soul, blues, funk, etc. sense.  
 
I've heard JamStix come up with rhythms I've found to be quite interesting.  
 
As producers of recorded music, WE have to option to select what fits in our compositions.  Does it really matter if a particular part was created by a computer or a human?  As long as it is the human making the creative decision to include or exclude the part....I see no problem with it.  

The problem with me is I leave all my experiments up, which means people can say...but I heard your work at such and such. Listen to Sonata No.4 Don't Make Me Angry, You Wouldn't Like Me When I'm Angry! by A Techno-Romantic #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/aa...-like-me-when-im-angry this is my latest work. I literally wrote around the acoustic guitar that anchors the piece. What this does is create a believable push and pull effect...much like what you'd expect a rhythm section to sound and feel like. There is some straight sections, but mostly, the hats for example are either slightly in front of the beat, I think in the funk section and the king crimson section and in the ohh section slightly behind. Push and pull.

I'm an experimenter again, and I suspect you listened to some early experiments, where I was still working out all the ideas contained in the link.

PS if you listen to that link, you will find that there are funk drums, jazz drums and plain rock drums...in the one piece. Yes, I do know how to write various styles of drums you see. 16th high hats with emphasis, if I remember correctly on the 1 and the 3 for funk. 12/8 you could use a triplet ride for a big swirling wash. 4/4 plain 8ths on the hi hat with kick on 1 and 3, snare on 2 and 4. You could also add in a smaller double kick just before the 3rd beat...very a typical in rock. I can also write fairly off kilter stuff, oh the link piece also contains a 7/8 section which is where the hulk out happens...bulk out for copyright purposes. There is a rather tricky feel in that section, and when you add in the timpini and all the various percussion...it ads up to some very cool synchronicity within and without the various beats. AI and most drummers (rock and popular) would struggle to replicate the drums in that piece. Sorry for the confusion - but I'm a mad scientist when it comes to music. In fact there are 4 kicks used, only once mind you, in the above track link. Mostly its 2 and in a couple 3. Snares as well. If you think that the drums sound mechanized in the above link...I would say check your hearing, because I purposely when it was required put certain beats in between notes...because you had to, to make the other instruments follow the acoustic guitar. That's not to say, the guitar is out of time and nor the other instruments...but when you've got roughly 50 tracks playing at once, the only way for the instruments to come through is to create space by placing said beats in between notes fractionally.