AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner [Manually Fixed]

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2018/05/18 01:22:24 (permalink)

AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner [Manually Fixed]

I did the install for the x64 version and I see the dll in the correct folder, but Cakewalk's VST Scanner is not picking it up...
 
I selected the re-scan failed as well as re-booted the machine...
 
Yes, it uses iLok and it's installed and activated there for this computer...
 
I seem to recall others having scan issues but found nothing relative to this synth from AIR\
 
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/18 01:58:35 (permalink)
    I don't know how to help you, but I thought I'd share that the AIR Hybrid Synth works on my system.

    I'm running Windows 10 x64.

    But my version is registered on the laptop itself, not on Ilok.
    I DO plan to use Ilok in the future though.

    You are using the manual scan right?

    One thing to try, transferring the license to the machine to verify if that works without Ilok.
    Anything to narrow down the list of what's going wrong.
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/18 02:36:06 (permalink)
    Daibhidh
    I don't know how to help you, but I thought I'd share that the AIR Hybrid Synth works on my system.

    I'm running Windows 10 x64.

    But my version is registered on the laptop itself, not on Ilok.
    I DO plan to use Ilok in the future though.

    You are using the manual scan right?

    One thing to try, transferring the license to the machine to verify if that works without Ilok.
    Anything to narrow down the list of what's going wrong.




    Thanks...
     
    I just tried an un/re-install thinking maybe I did the iLok reg in the wrong order, but nothing changed...
     
    I'm running on win8.1 and this is the first time I've ever had this problem with any of my plugins...
     
    Wouldn't the scanner see it even if it was not ilok registered? Usually I've found such a situation to cause an error message when loading it (with a lock out), but vst scanner still found it and added it to the auto-menu.
     
    It is not in the list of vsti scanned. vst2 is what I installed... Not in any excluded lists either...
     
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    BTW... I have a number of other iLok devices both fx and instruments that work fine with the iLok account...
     
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/18 13:47:23 (permalink)
    I'm running Hybrid 3 on both Win 7 64 bit, and Win 10 64 bit with it authorised on an iLok - I've had no issues at all.
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/18 16:07:30 (permalink)
    Something odd...

    I notice in ilok that there are two separate entries each for 2 licenses. Is this normal? Maybe somehow i have two licenses? I've tried each as well as both but nothing changes.

    Are you guys seeing two entries?

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/18 17:52:46 (permalink)
    I would e mail Air's support, they will answer in a few days. I have had issues with most of the products over time that I never have with others. I think it's great sounding stuff, but a little buggy. 
    I have a very similar situation but with Xpand2 only.
    It won't show in CbB, works fine in Splat. 
    All the other Ar stuff works fine, only Xpand
    And Yes I have 2 entries for Xpand2 in my iLok account. So I wonder if that's a clue to the mystery.  
     

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/18 18:05:43 (permalink)
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    I would e mail Air's support, they will answer in a few days. I have had issues with most of the products over time that I never have with others. I think it's great sounding stuff, but a little buggy. 
    I have a very similar situation but with Xpand2 only.
    It won't show in CbB, works fine in Splat. 
    All the other Ar stuff works fine, only Xpand
    And Yes I have 2 entries for Xpand2 in my iLok account. So I wonder if that's a clue to the mystery.  
     


    Thanks... some interesting parallells...

    Xpand 2 is fine for both Splat and CbB here with only a single ilok entry while Hybrid has 2 entries and is ignored by VST Scanner...

    I will contact Air as you suggest...

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 15:24:50 (permalink)
    Is your Hybrid on a different disc to your DAW. I had this problem with one of Air's synthase and move it across to my system disc then it worked. Bizarre but worth a try if they are on different drives!
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 16:03:18 (permalink)
    Air uses a different install method and I had trouble putting content on my data drive and having it find it. As I said, great sounding stuff, but buggy interface. Needs TLC to get it to work. 
     

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 17:56:04 (permalink)
    I had trouble with this yesterday, but I think the problem for me was iLok I could not connect to their server at all.

    However today iLok found the licence, authorised it and activated it.  CbB found them on a scan working no problem here.

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 17:58:51 (permalink)
    Thanks for the update Wookie...

    iLok had no discernable difficulty though it shows two separate entries for Hybrid here...

    I'll try VST Scanner again today though i did a few re-boots yesterday between attempts...

    Sure enough! The registry is now loaded with entries for this synth!

    Thanks for the explanation!
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 18:08:53 (permalink)
    Don't forget, it is possible to create a log of the scan activity by holding the SHIFT key while clicking the scan or reset buttons.
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 18:36:14 (permalink)
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    Don't forget, it is possible to create a log of the scan activity by holding the SHIFT key while clicking the scan or reset buttons.


    Thanks scook...

    Where would i find the log afterwards (win8.1) ?

    Would I then send this to a cakewalk error report? Is this still available or simply use the pinned post in this forum?

    Thanks again!

    I filed reports at pluginboutique and air....

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 18:38:23 (permalink)
    when a log is requested at the end of the scan a message pops up with the path

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 18:54:14 (permalink)
    The default location for Hybrid is Program Files\Steinberg\VstPlugins
     
    Make sure that is included in your list of paths.  Mine wasn't, so I had to add it to pick up Hybrid

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 20:56:26 (permalink)
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    when a log is requested at the end of the scan a message pops up with the path



    Thanks scook... that makes it easy!

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/20 20:59:47 (permalink)
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    The default location for Hybrid is Program Files\Steinberg\VstPlugins
     
    Make sure that is included in your list of paths.  Mine wasn't, so I had to add it to pick up Hybrid


    Thanks Bob...

    When I installed I changed the folder location to the CbB vstplugins folder as I always do. I see the hybrid.dll in the correct folder.

    Maybe i'll try adding the steinberg folder though i don't use it... on the off chance there's something odd going on...

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 04:14:22 (permalink)
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    when a log is requested at the end of the scan a message pops up with the path



    Tried this, but got no toast with path...

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 04:15:33 (permalink)
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    The default location for Hybrid is Program Files\Steinberg\VstPlugins
     
    Make sure that is included in your list of paths.  Mine wasn't, so I had to add it to pick up Hybrid


    Thanks Bob...

    Though that folder is empty, i added it with no change...

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 11:44:05 (permalink)
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    when a log is requested at the end of the scan a message pops up with the path


    Tried this, but got no toast with path...

    If the message does not appear, it is likely the key sequence was not entered correctly. In Preferences > File > VST Settings hold down the SHIFT key and click the Scan button.
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 19:44:54 (permalink)
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    when a log is requested at the end of the scan a message pops up with the path


    Tried this, but got no toast with path...

    If the message does not appear, it is likely the key sequence was not entered correctly. In Preferences > File > VST Settings hold down the SHIFT key and click the Scan button.




    Thanks scook...
     
    From this method, I got the path and looked at the log.
     
    I see it scanned hybrid's dll, but it does not show in the registered plugins???
     
    Any thoughts?
     

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 20:02:21 (permalink)
    Did you check both Audio Effects and Instrument registered areas?
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 20:05:19 (permalink)
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    Did you check both Audio Effects and Instrument registered areas?


    Yup! Even looked in the dx areas, excluded, permanently excluded, as well as naming peculiarites...

    No sign of the word hybrid...

    ...and i'm not using any custom menus, only the default which i expect to display all...?

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 20:08:03 (permalink)
    I have no idea what name the plug-in uses. If it is a new VST2 plug-in it may be in the uncategorized folder in the browser plug-in list when using the "Sort By Category" layout.
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 20:18:24 (permalink)
    Further investigation shows that the scanner decided it is not a vst plugin?
     
    VSTSCAN: VST plugin previously scanned
    VSTSCAN: WRITE VST DATA...
    VSTSCAN: WRITE VST DATA - successfully updated VST plugin inventory record...
    VSTSCAN: ---- 170: c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins\Hybrid_x64.dll ----
    VSTSCAN: [ShortPath] c:\PROGRA~1\cakewalk\VSTPLU~1\HYBRID~1.DLL
    VSTSCAN: [RegKey] Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory\c:/program files/cakewalk/vstplugins/Hybrid_x64.dll
    VSTSCAN: Previously scanned - NOT a VST plugin
    VSTSCAN: WRITE VST DATA...
    VSTSCAN: WRITE VST DATA - successfully updated VST plugin inventory record...
     
    Ah! I don't know if it works yet, but I just changed the value of isvst in the registry from 0 to 1 and it is now in the registered list... gonna try running it now...
     
    thanks!
     

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 20:25:13 (permalink)
    Here area a few alternatives to directly messing with the VST inventory
    1) in Preferences > File > VST Settings enable "Re-scan failed plug-ins" and run a manual scan. Deselect the rescan option after running the scan.
    2) Move the hybrid.dll out of the scan path, run a manual scan, put the dll back into the scan path, run a manual scan
    3) run a vst reset
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 20:33:00 (permalink)
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    Here area a few alternatives to directly messing with the VST inventory
    1) in Preferences > File > VST Settings enable "Re-scan failed plug-ins" and run a manual scan. Deselect the rescan option after running the scan.
    2) Move the hybrid.dll out of the scan path, run a manual scan, put the dll back into the scan path, run a manual scan
    3) run a vst reset




    Thanks... I get the idea...
     
    ...but not necessary. Editing the registry did the trick... It is now working!
     
    Thanks for sticking with me on this and leading me to the fix!
     

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/21 23:15:01 (permalink)
    I'm glad it's working for you now.
    There are some good air sounds.
    I managed to buy a whole bunch of expansions for like a buck each.
    Totally worth it.
    I do hope Bandlab brings back Z3ta 2 or in the future Z3ta 3!!!
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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/22 00:11:55 (permalink)
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    I'm glad it's working for you now.
    There are some good air sounds.
    I managed to buy a whole bunch of expansions for like a buck each.
    Totally worth it.
    I do hope Bandlab brings back Z3ta 2 or in the future Z3ta 3!!!


    Thanks!

    First look/listen was positive... we'll see how useful it is over time.
    I have both the z3ta and z3ta 2 and use them often...

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    Re: AIR Hybrid Synth not getting Picked Up By VST Scanner 2018/05/22 00:15:16 (permalink)
    >>VSTSCAN: Previously scanned - NOT a VST plugin


    This means that during one of your scan's the plugin load itself failed. When that happens VstScan process flags the plugin as not a VST plugin. It does this so that we don't repeatedly waste time trying to scan DLL's in the scan path that aren't actual plugins. Most likely what happened is you had a bad install or plugin that was not yet authorized at one time. This is a common problem and the normal way to solve it is by setting the "rescan failed" flag in the vst preferences and rescanning to pick up the plugins.

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