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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 14:50:28 (permalink)

My original measurements are all available in the drop down menu. 
They still work minus some of the newer features. 



post edited by carl - 2012/07/27 14:51:57
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 14:56:37 (permalink)
Hmmmm. I see a copy of my mackies.arc file from "My Documents\ARC System\Filters" in "My Documents\ARC System 2\Measurements".

But in ARC 2 it is not in my drop down list. 

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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 18:27:31 (permalink)
Here are the results of my 14 position measurement of my Mackie 824s.



I followed the "Project Studio" example in the manual. If the results (white line) are correct I'm a happy camper.

When my ears are fresh I'll compare ARC to ARC2 but here is what ARC came up with when I measured 20 positions (way back when).




Since then I've made some small changes in the room I can only imagine that is why the before lines are not exact, that and ARC2s 48KHz vs. ARCs 44.1KHz measurement. FWFW, ARC 1 was measured with my Tascam FW-1884 interface vs. ARC2 was measured with my RME Fireface UFX. Maybe that makes a slight difference? 


At first listen to a "known" project ARC 2 sounds better/cleaner on the bass.


I plan to do a more detailed test with my projects and some known "pro" material.
post edited by bapu - 2012/07/27 18:37:16
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 18:28:47 (permalink)
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I just read this at GS concerning JamPoints:

"Since the scenario was a little odd where you'd have to wait to use your JamPoints to get a better deal, we've added the ability to use JamPoints on the upgrade to defer 25% of the total. So you can now put up to 25% equivalent JamPoints into the cart and reduce the upgrade price.

Thank you for reporting this and I apologize for any inconvenience. In the case where you've already purchased, if you could please contact us and we'll have support and order processing work with you to get it resolved."


This is great news.  Just last month time took its toil on over half my jampoints because they expired!  That policy of expiration absolutely stinks!!!!!  I have been buying amps and cabs in the custom shop, and have bought the entire IKM pro studio line.  I have been hoping and waiting for IKM to release this ARC2 upgrade and the long promised and never arriving ST3 before I lost my jampoints, but alas most of my jampoints just expired last month.  How can you tell if they are expired you might ask?  Well they are now grayed out now and when you go to purchase the total available jampoints is now reduced (drastically in my case).  At least I still had some left and I can use 25 of the remaining for this Arc2 Upgrade.  

So thanks Carl for this post. 

Again, the expiration of our jampoints is a real pain.  I know, I am venting again!




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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 18:33:26 (permalink)
I just got the email that my CC was credited $25 from my jam points.

Too cool. $74 upgrade.

See measurement results above.
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 18:34:48 (permalink)
After contacting IK's support a few hours ago I just received a refund for $25.00 towards the purchase of the upgrade.

Great job IK, appreciate the refund & added reduction.
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 19:14:09 (permalink)
Bapu, looking at your graphs i'm encouraged that Arc2 will be a significant improvement, because your Arc1 graphs look very similar to mine and Arc2 improved nicely on your correction. I've still got quite a null around 90 to 150ish even with some treatment. Cool, i've been looking forward to arc2.

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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 19:27:59 (permalink)
I too received the $25 credit from jam points for the upgrade. Thanks for the info Carl. Thanks to IK for the kind gesture.

I haven't been able to do anything except read the manual so far due to severe storms here.

I had made a measurement template that was placed on the floor to take 32 measurements for arc 1. From what I read in the manual it looks like 16 measurements are the max you can take, using arc 2, for any one setting.

Can anyone confirm that 16 is the max in arc 2? If so, I need to start making another template as it worked out very well before.

Kind regards,
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 19:56:26 (permalink)
because your Arc1 graphs look very similar to mine



and mine.


hmm.

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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 20:05:41 (permalink)
timidi



because your Arc1 graphs look very similar to mine



and mine.


hmm.

Does make one wonder. If not for the audible results one could imagine the "algorithm" is nothing more that a graphics statement. LOL!!!!
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 20:19:13 (permalink)
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 20:47:30 (permalink)
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I too received the $25 credit from jam points for the upgrade. Thanks for the info Carl. Thanks to IK for the kind gesture.

I haven't been able to do anything except read the manual so far due to severe storms here.

I had made a measurement template that was placed on the floor to take 32 measurements for arc 1. From what I read in the manual it looks like 16 measurements are the max you can take, using arc 2, for any one setting.

Can anyone confirm that 16 is the max in arc 2? If so, I need to start making another template as it worked out very well before.

Kind regards,
Rick

Rick,

Same thing here with the storms yesterday. My Furman voltmeter was down to 109 so I had my computer off all day. 
 

I just did my first set of measurements & there's only 16 points possible.
My template is 30 & so I just varied them. 

Also I forgot, the last measurement needs to be middle of left & right ( I don't necessarily mean listening 'center') correct?

post edited by carl - 2012/07/27 20:54:39
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 22:09:40 (permalink)
Hi Carl,

Thanks for the confirm on the 16 max points.

I was not aware that the last measurement needed to be in the middle of left/right. Did you read that in the manual or just get it off of the layout diagrams?

On the new template, I just drew up, I put 14 in the middle front like on their project studio layout suggestion but I added a 15 just below the 4 but over to the left towards the 8. Did the same thing with the 16 just below the 5 but over to the right towards the 9.

Guess I can try it both ways to see if it makes any difference. Wish I knew how to insert a .jpg on here directly from my laptop and I would post a dimensional diagram of my template layout...

Kind regards,
Rick




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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 22:17:25 (permalink)
I don't have the manual in front of me but IIRC when your first point is middle / center (mono) the last even numbered measurement needs to be somewhere center point (mono) too. 

Otherwise if you ended with say a left point measure (#16) there wouldn't be a right measurement for the last pair of measurements to even out the calculation.


Anyways that's how I've been doing it!

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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 22:27:20 (permalink)
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I don't have the manual in front of me but IIRC when your first point is middle / center (mono) the last even numbered measurement needs to be somewhere center point (mono) too. 

Otherwise if you ended with say a left point measure (#16) there wouldn't be a right measurement for the last pair of measurements to even out the calculation.


Anyways that's how I've been doing it!

Yup.
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 22:52:25 (permalink)
Thanks for the info guys. I'll just take the 14 measurements similar to the IK project studio layout and see how it goes. At my age, I consider it a good day when I learn something new.

Thanks again,
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/27 23:25:51 (permalink)
Too cool, I just bought the upgrade and noticed that I bought and registered the old version exactly 2 years ago today!


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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/28 09:24:57 (permalink)
Has anyone exported a mix and listened to it elsewhere? How's the translation, etc? Is it better than arc1? Thanks.

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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/28 09:45:56 (permalink)
Haven't done that yet but it should be 1 better, shouldn't it?


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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/28 11:52:33 (permalink)
I would be more than happy to oblige (comment on audible differences) any and all that post a before/after mix with Arc2. I don't use this software but am curious about it. 
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/28 13:19:54 (permalink)
bought for $75, downloaded and installed.  it found my previous measurements and warned me that they are from a previous version and all features won't be available.  I selected the measurement from the old system (measured in April 2012) and it warned me again and told me exactly what wouldn't be available.

I'll take new measurements soon with the new ARC.

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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/28 13:26:55 (permalink)
Reece, remember to check the proper mic type and set interface to 48KHz (if you don't already).
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/28 14:59:00 (permalink)
check!

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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/28 15:15:41 (permalink)
So I take it you guys are all liking the new ARC? You can really hear a difference in quality with the recent integration of the MultEQ® XT32 technology.
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/28 16:04:01 (permalink)
It's working fine here. The low end is tighter & less 'phasey' sounding than the previous version.

I like the new alt reference templates. I've been working with all day on several large projects- very stable, no crashing or problems to report.


The intro upgrade price is reasonable too, nice job all around.
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/28 16:11:10 (permalink)
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Reece, remember to check the proper mic type and set interface to 48KHz (if you don't already).


I don't think that you have to do this.

IIRC, whenever I ran the tests with v1 of ARC, the software automatically set my MOTU to 48KHz for the testing phase and returned it to 44.1KHz when it was done.

I know that I didn't change anything.
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/29 15:48:53 (permalink)
Yeah the ability to check your mixes on different sounding playback systems is a very important feature to us. Can save you money instead of having to pay for multiple systems and time from having to check them soo much on other systems.
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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/29 16:20:34 (permalink)
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bapu


Reece, remember to check the proper mic type and set interface to 48KHz (if you don't already).


I don't think that you have to do this.

IIRC, whenever I ran the tests with v1 of ARC, the software automatically set my MOTU to 48KHz for the testing phase and returned it to 44.1KHz when it was done.

I know that I didn't change anything.


Yes, actually it did for me as well.  but I didn't want bapu to feel unneeded. 

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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/29 16:52:43 (permalink)
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Yes, actually it did for me as well.  but I didn't want bapu to feel unneeded.   

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Re:ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia 2012/07/29 18:40:41 (permalink)
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Yes, actually it did for me as well.  but I didn't want bapu to feel unneeded.   

Betterer than having me do a bazz track that NEVER sees the light of day


DANG!!!  I thought I uninstalled NAGBAP!!! 

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