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2012/09/28 10:23:45 (permalink)

ARC

Is there any way I can get ARC to be always on my soundcard outputs?
So, everything I hear is always ARCed.

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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 12:32:28 (permalink)
    no, but there is a way to use winamp with it so that if you're listening to waves or mp3's you can listen on winamp and have ARC on.  I can search for that procedure on how to do that if you're interested, it's here on the forum.

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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 13:36:42 (permalink)
    Thanks Reece.
    Do you mean this one?
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2479235&mpage=1


    Anyway, I found a workaround for Wavelab.

    I'm starting to think that I like my mixes better with ARC on. In other words I mix to what I hear, and what I hear is correct.
    If I turn ARC off and print, the mixes are heavy in the lows. So, why even have ARC enabled in the first place.
    I don't know what to trust. Me or ARC..

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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 16:30:49 (permalink)
    Tim,

    ARC is NOT meant to be used in a printed mix. It is used to "correct" the deficiencies of your room *while* you are listening to a mix in your room.

    If you are gettig bottom heavy mixes outside of your room (in the car, home stereo, on phones) after verifying your mix with ARC on, then I'd say ARC is failing you somehow. And if that is true, I'd say you may need to take your measurements again or address the issues in your room. JMO.

    Again, imagine your room has a slight null @ 63Hz and ARC corrects that by boosting 63Hz (which is now noticable in your sweet spot) and you now hear a balanced 63Hz in your room. It would be odd to think that everywhere you take your mix the same 63Hz null, as in your room, will be present and your mix needs that "correction" there too. Do you see what I'm saying?

    BTW, I *NEVER* listen to mix with headphones on my DAW with ARC turned on. ARC is only turned on when I am making critical mixing decisions thru my Mackie HR824s.
     
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    How about using Winamp?
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 16:45:26 (permalink)
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    So you never listen to my downloadable mp3s thru ARC?


    :-(









    How about using Winamp?

    Not in headphones. made the typo correction in bold above.


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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 16:46:43 (permalink)
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    So you never listen to my downloadable mp3s thru ARC?

    Only the dulcimer ones. It's like varispeed but with EQ.
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 17:06:10 (permalink)
    It was when Noah used it but it's gone up since then.
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 17:08:27 (permalink)
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    It was when Noah used it but it's gone up since then.


    dammit, I should have jumped on that deal
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 17:09:04 (permalink)
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    It was when Noah used it but it's gone up since then.

    clever that, by the way - noah-arc
     
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 17:14:45 (permalink)
    mike_mccue

    You seem to enjoy bringing it up. 
    An older boy...


    Um a boy made me do it.
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 17:23:25 (permalink)
    mike_mccue


    Anyways, the part that caught my attention was the idea that you are using Audyssey's patented technology, which was clearly invented for end user playback, a technology that even snobbish audiophiles will agree is suitable for end user playback, but you're not using it for end user play back.


    If you're gonna use ARC it makes sense to enjoy it 24/7.

    best regards,
    mike

    Mebee we see things differently.


    A) I do not need ARC in headphones. They are not affected by my inadequate room.
    B) I rarely listen to "end user" music on my DAW (i.e. my Mackie HR824s with ARC) because.....
    C) I listen to "end user" music on my laptop (that *can* double as a remote DAW, but is my normal workstation) through my Sennheiser HD600s. That usually tells me *nearly* all I need to know about the "end user" experience.
    D) Dulcimers are just plain funny, no matter the context and that is why I enjoy bringing them up. I had all but forgotten how funny they are until you mentioned them (so..... mebee you're the "boy"?)
    E) I really do not take any of this as serious as you appear to do, I'm in it for the fun, nothing more.
    F) I'm sorry if I offended you.
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 17:26:39 (permalink)
    ARC for 39.99? I No-ah guy.... Anyways, it sounds like ARC is doing what its supposed to be doing if after you turn it off the mix sounds bass heavy. Check the mix on other playback systems and the mix should be more consistent to what you heard with it on.
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 17:29:03 (permalink)
    Daryl,

    The cheapest I could find ARC a dulcimer was HERE.

    HTH.
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 17:33:45 (permalink)
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    Tim,

    ARC is NOT meant to be used in a printed mix. It is used to "correct" the deficiencies of your room *while* you are listening to a mix in your room.

    If you are gettig bottom heavy mixes outside of your room (in the car, home stereo, on phones) after verifying your mix with ARC on, then I'd say ARC is failing you somehow. And if that is true, I'd say you may need to take your measurements again or address the issues in your room. JMO.

    Again, imagine your room has a slight null @ 63Hz and ARC corrects that by boosting 63Hz (which is now noticable in your sweet spot) and you now hear a balanced 63Hz in your room. It would be odd to think that everywhere you take your mix the same 63Hz null, as in your room, will be present and your mix needs that "correction" there too. Do you see what I'm saying?

    BTW, I *NEVER* listen to mix with headphones on my DAW with ARC turned on. ARC is only turned on when I am making critical mixing decisions thru my Mackie HR824s.



    I know Baps. Thanks.






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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 18:22:42 (permalink)
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    F) I'm sorry if I offended you.


    mike_mccue

    With regards to dulcimers, I sort of think that your idea that dulcimers are "funny" sort of insults a whole genre of musician, some of whom are friends of mine that I respect as people and musicians. I don't get what's so funny about that. The hammer dulcimer is a wonderful instrument.

    With regards to tuning a hammer dulcimer... it's simple... I made a statement that I feel that they are difficult and temperamental to tune... and folks have been making fun of me ever since. I ignored it for 2 weeks and then I told you all that I don't enjoy it.  Some are saying to be insulting and will surely continue.

    When you say it in jest... it feels just like the insults. 




    Again, 
    F) I'm sorry if I offended you. 


    That is never my intention.


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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 18:39:27 (permalink)
    mike_mccue


    I'm sorry I had to go all drama queen.

    Thanks for the F).


    Maybe we can talk about white socks?

    :-)


    best regards,
    mike

    Can you tune white socks without a Strobe tuner?  Can you correct them with ARC? 
     
    Besides many of the friends I love and respect wear white socks, why would you mock them? You don't even know them.
     
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 19:08:48 (permalink)
    Lots of good WTF info here. WOW.....

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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 19:14:21 (permalink)
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    ARC for 39.99? I No-ah guy.... Anyways, it sounds like ARC is doing what its supposed to be doing if after you turn it off the mix sounds bass heavy. Check the mix on other playback systems and the mix should be more consistent to what you heard with it on.


    But the OP is on to a great idea.  We ARC owners would like ARC to be always on for anything that comes out of our monitors and always off for everything else.  We can't do that with ARC as a VST, but maybe your tech. wizards can figure out some way to enable it at the driver level?  Maybe that's not remotely possible, but if it were, it would be beyond cool.
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/28 22:26:01 (permalink)
    I'm a fan of ARS, I'm not familiar with this ARC band you speak of.

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    Re:ARC 2012/09/29 00:14:15 (permalink)
    It is never what I say, it is always how it is taken.



    That is one heck of a quote Robby. Love it.
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    Re:ARC 2012/09/29 07:45:31 (permalink)
    Sorry I didn't respond earlier Tim, that's not the thread I was thinking of, but the end result is the same.

    as I said I've not done this myself because, like bapsi, I rarely listen to commerical music on my DAW anyway and I use ARC only for mixing and not with headphones (and I've not even mentioned dulcimers...ooops!)

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    Re:ARC 2012/09/29 11:15:27 (permalink)
    I rarely listen to commerical music on my DAW anyway



    Thanks Reece.

    I like to listen to commercial on my DAW cause it sounds so friggin nice:)
    But, how else can you validate any reference listening??
    I A/B my mix to commercial mixes all the time. Think you may be missing something.



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