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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/01 13:31:17 (permalink)
Oh, I did fail to mention that even in the old setup, I used a dedicated interface designed for audio with SONAR. I never used PC audio for DAW recording, the original system used an M-Audio interface. For years, Soundblaster was a hot topic around here but if it was all you had, it was still better than tracking on a TEAC.
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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/01 14:48:57 (permalink)
Besides 8-tracks and anything else that came out years ago, there was also the 4 channel tapedecks reel to reel that could play the 4 discrete channel songs back then like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge-3GDkwf8g

Kraftwerk Autobahn (1974).
(driving your Volkswagon on the Autobahn).

in 4 channel discrete sound.
(that was 4 guys called Kraftwerk making all the sounds with synths back then.)
 
 

 
 
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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/02 13:15:49 (permalink)
Okay, I have now disabled the onboard sound card, the only sound device on my system is the AudioBox, I'm driving my speakers directly from the AudioBox... when I play Audio files from the desktop, they open and play just fine in VLC or Media Player, however, in Sonar, I'm still getting that original message ("Unable to open audio record device. Device may not support the current project's audio format or may be in use.") when I select AudioBox ASIO drivers and try to playback tracks. Also, tracks play in both Studio One and Audition.
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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/02 14:18:27 (permalink)
Check that Audiobox and SONAR are set to the same sample rate. That message often means there's a sample rate mismatch.

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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/02 22:28:56 (permalink)
You may have to change the bit rate in Sonar in Options menu item and Audio to the bit rate the Audiobox is set to and Ok(ay ) it and then close Sonar out (exit out of the program) and restart Sonar so both the AudioBox and Sonar are set the same. Anything like CDs, itunes, utube is always 44100 sample rate, and movies and Windows Media Player, but WMP can also play back now 48000Hz sample rate, movies may even but still that depends on like WMP playing the movie also. Recording and playback of your own personal songs can be done either 44100 rate or 48000 rate.
The bit depth should be sort of automatic with ASIO drivers - either 16, 24, 32 bit depth. (CD are 16 bit depth, and such but with ASIO drivers that usually will be automatic, but with Windows drivers like WDM/KS whatever and MME that would also have to be set (in sonar) and then exit out of Sonar and restart it so both are the same. (and usually you won't be using Sonar to play a movie or listen to utube or itunes because usually Windows is used for that).
 
 

 
 
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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/03 11:38:03 (permalink)
okay, fingers crossed... I've matched everything as far as I can tell, but I still can't make the software run with ASIO... but so far, using the WDM drivers, I'm seeing an improvement in the latency... haven't had time to explore it full but I will.
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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/03 12:00:58 (permalink)
LOL, glad I can still laugh... still have to test for latency, but now I seem to have lost stereo response... more stuff to track down. (much more of this and I'm going back to analog)
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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/03 13:38:36 (permalink)
Any time you change like the drivers in Sonar, you have to save the file you were working on after setting the Audio on the Options Menu again. If on the Drivers Tab (well in my version - sonar 7) you do not have Outputs and Inputs marked as to what those can be, then you have to checkmark them again and Apply and Okay it, then you have to save the music file you are working on and also close out Sonar (exit) and restart Sonar again with the music file project you were working on before changing things around. If you change from ASIO to WDM/KS (windows drivers) drivers you have to go through all those steps before Sonar will be set up.
 
I think these are set up correctly. I changed from ASIO drivers in a song to Windows Drivers (in which case I had to run the Wave Profiler again on the General Tab of the Options menu item - Audio (where you set up the project and how you are going to record and play it back) and then changed back to ASIO drivers from the Windows drivers that I had switched to - because ASIO is better for latency and that is the way anything probably should be recorded).
 

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Switching to Windows Drivers (WDM/KS)

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Oops, did not mark Inputs and Outputs on Drivers Tab of Audio after changing drivers on the Advanced tab.

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Marked Inputs and Outputs on the Drivers tab of the Audio Menu window.

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Checking Recording and Playback timing master on General Tab of Audio menu window.

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Have to run Wave Profiler again after changing to Windows drivers.

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What recording setup is with my Babyface is set to - to use for the sample rate of recording after Wave Profiler is done.
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The rest is changing back from the Windows drivers back to the ASIO drivers, saving the song project file along the way and exiting Sonar if have to and restarting Sonar with the same song project file. (usually ASIO is more automatic than Windows Drivers using).

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You have to go through everything and exit out of Sonar after saving the song project and restart (usually) Sonar with the changed settings - saving the song project when a little star by the song project name shows.
 
Figure it out, read the help file in Sonar or your AudioBox and these are just necessary steps to change drivers or sample rate or in the case of Windows Drivers - bit depth (ASIO is automatic).
 
 
 
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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/04 19:41:50 (permalink)
I've done everything I can think of, and followed all the steps people here have suggested and the manual... I simply cannot make ASIO work... I can choose ASIO in all categories, but the program will not record or playback with ASIO selected as drivers... I'm going to be working with WDM from here out, once I figure out why I've lost stereo, unless I find that the latency problem is still there... in which case, I will put a bullet in my right temple.
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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/04 21:06:27 (permalink)
The Audiobox page seems to suggest that it will only record with a 24-bit depth at either 44,100 or 48,000 Hz sampling rate.
Check what sampling rate the Audiobox is using (44.1 or 48) then in SONAR, there may be boxes at the bottom showing what the sampling rate and bit depth is set to. If it's not 24 and what the Presonus is using, click Options>Global>Audio Data and set the Record Bit Depth to 24 and the sampling rate is set under Options>Audio, close and re-open SONAR.
Also, if you ever used ASIO4All, confirm that you don't have ASIO4All anywhere on your computer now.

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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/04 21:18:52 (permalink)
Some standard factoids:  
Remove any PCI sound cards when using a USB interface. Very rare that they can co exist. 
It is also best to disable the MOBO sound card in most installations, It is also rare that they can co exist.
Best practice- use only your trusty audio interface. Why not? 
When ASIO mode does not work, there is no reason not to use WDM mode, Cakewalk even recommends this if your read the Audio interface section of the Knowledge base.  
It is common for driver installations to not always take properly if something in your system is conflicting, even a video card driver can screw things up. 
Sonar is the pickiest DAW on the planet with drivers. 
 
Are you hearing mono in the headphones too? 
If not then your wiring is to blame. 
 
You mentioned latency issues. While tracking you want to bypass all efxs and keep things clean. 
Use your interfaces direct monitoring, do not use input echo. If your hearing latency in either ASIO OR WDM 
mode then your not monitoring correctly or you've loaded down your system beyond it's capacity
post edited by Cactus Music - 2014/02/04 21:23:17

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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/05 00:49:41 (permalink)
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Remove any PCI sound cards when using a USB interface. Very rare that they can co exist.



I used to have both a Line6 UX2 (USB) and a M-Audio Audiophile 192 (PCI) working in the same computer without any conflict.

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Re: ASIO drivers 2014/02/05 01:15:31 (permalink)
If you read my fine print I don't say this is 100%, you just happened to have one of the few.  

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