ATTN: Cakewalk .... I think this could be the answer we need / are looking for ....

This is certainly less contentious than this forum can be, and more black and white.  Although I do give the CW staff kudos for participating in these debates.

+1

Pro Tools seriously needs some user input!!!

Seems like Avid never had the idea that Freeze, VST and a 64 bit version could be useful to "some" users...  

As if Cakewalk aren`t aware of what the competition may or may not be doing, there will never be a complete DAW, its the same with ourselves, forever in the process of becoming.

Avid also forgot to make their software compatabile for 3rd pary interfaces. So far all you guys threatening to run to Protools you'll have to buy a new sound device. Add $300 more to that investment.

Middleman


Avid also forgot to make their software compatabile for 3rd pary interfaces. So far all you guys threatening to run to Protools you'll have to buy a new sound device. Add $300 more to that investment.

I've been running PT9 on my MOTU 896 for 2 months now.

Stop by and have a listen any time.... I'll let you play some nice amps and guitars too.

Yes in PT9 they do offer 3rd party support, that's true, however, there is no support for automatic delay compensation in 3rd party devices. So although you can get it to run, have fun getting all those plugins tweaked for smooth operation. That has to take the creative mood and bite it in the butt. Imagine a 40 plus track project with plugin in compensation on every plug in. Get out your calculator.

Really? No delay compensation? That's too bad. It seems like the Pro Tools people are still the same I'll never switch to PT for any reason what so ever. I don't like working with it. However, taking my mixes to a PT equiped studio doesn't bother me. It's good for mixing as long as there is an engineer there so I don't have to struggle with it myself;)

Yes, there certainly is.

Hang on while I get the link where it talks about this:
 
Ok, first..from the Avid site.
 
"Pro Tools 9.0 Systems and Third Party Interfaces

Pro Tools 9 is the first Pro Tools release that will operate with third party audio interfaces. Although Avid will not officially qualify or support use of these interfaces, we will post helpful information and customer experiences with third party interfaces on this page as that information becomes available." 
 
There is an article, which I am still searching for which describes the issue for 3rd party devices but here is the disclaimer for LE and M-Powered users as well that ADC is not available and you have to use time and adjuster to make things work.
 
"ADC ADC When opening a Pro Tools 9.0 session that uses Automatic Delay Compensation on a Pro Tools LE or M-Powered system, ADC will no longer be available. Use the Time Adjuster plug-in to manually compensate for plug-in delays"
 
Another interesting note when moving to PT9, say goodbye to your VST plugins, they don't work there. 
  
Ok, from the manual...
 

Pro Tools HD accounts for converter delays

when using Automatic Delay Compensation.

However, when using non-HD hardware,

System Delay only displays internal

delay and does not take into account any latency

incurred by the analog-to-digital

(ADC) or digital-to-analog (DAC) converters

in your audio interface.
More to come...
 

Middleman

Another interesting note when moving to PT9, say goodbye to your VST plugins, they don't work there.
 
 
 
 

Then I break out the disks and install the RTAS versions.

mike_mccue


"Another interesting note when moving to PT9, say goodbye to your VST plugins, they don't work there."


More falsehoods and lies, making stuff up is weak... you buy the VST wrapper (I think, but may be mistaken, that it's the same wrapper Cakewalk bought and uses) and use all the VSTs you want.

I believe you are right. Everyone forgets that Sonar still has no native VST support.

I didn't misrepresent anything...

I caught you telling lies and explained that you are making stuff up.

You might wish to review the first 9 posts before you started telling lies.

You were not reacting to any misrepresentation... you were just spouting bull-ego.

I doubt you read the first 9 posts... otherwise you wouldn't have just posted, "Yes, but don't mispreresent that moving to PT9 is going to be a happy place for all users." because no one on this thread has said anything to that effect.

You can call it lies if it helps you sleep but there are considerable issues in moving to PT9 that you are skating over. Avid does not support 3rd party devices, however they are claiming it works. If the Cake did that, I think you would be one of the peasants beating on the castle door.

I have no ego by the way, 30 years of marriage have beat that out of me.

Middleman


Yes in PT9 they do offer 3rd party support, that's true, however, there is no support for automatic delay compensation in 3rd party devices. So although you can get it to run, have fun getting all those plugins tweaked for smooth operation. .

Bullcr*p, Running RME hardware here with PT9 having full ADC, that is what all the fuzz is about.  
Support for 3rd party ASIO compatible interfaces with full delay compensation.
But be careful with that VST to RTAS wrapper. Native VST would be much much better like in Cubase or Studio One. For big projects with a lot of Virtual instruments, PT can get very unfriendly even if you are running RTAS versions. According to their architecture they are *slightly* more CPU intensive - and not 64 bit.