AUtomation on un automatable parameters !OUTSIDE THE BOX !

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AUtomation on un automatable parameters !OUTSIDE THE BOX !

Hi everyone ,
 
this Question  has me a bit rattled and curious !! if at all it is possible to automate a parameter on a vst that has no midi message or automation
 
now the vst is not this issue here but it is a standalone also . This applies to loads of parameters and different synths !
 
my question is can anyone tell me any doors ? software / whatever ware that can do this when a daw or in particular the vst doesn't show that particular parameter to be automated ?
 
i just want to make it clear no midi data on these parameters that i am trying to automate .
 
i know this is a long shot but its definitely worth the ask if someone has this figured out .
 
I am hoping someone has this sorted and will share (:
 
 
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    Kylotan
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    Re: AUtomation on un automatable parameters !OUTSIDE THE BOX ! 2016/03/02 05:04:55 (permalink)
    If you want to change a value in some software but that software hasn't exposed an official way to do it (eg. via automation) then your options are close to zero. There are programs that allow you to hack into the memory space of a running program and alter the values inside, but that program has no way of knowing whether it's changing a VST parameter (like you want it to) or instead changing some part of the graphics, or a timer, or some other counter, or anything at all. People who use this software often take a long time to analyse the program they're trying to modify, trying to spot the part of the data that corresponds to what they want to manipulate.
     
    So unless this is totally mission critical and you can afford to spend a lot of time on it, I would recommend giving up.

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    Re: AUtomation on un automatable parameters !OUTSIDE THE BOX ! 2016/03/02 07:06:59 (permalink)
    If you can twiddle a knob though, could you not do it in real-time and use aux tracks to record the output at least?
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    Re: AUtomation on un automatable parameters !OUTSIDE THE BOX ! 2016/03/02 09:28:48 (permalink)
    What about using VST automation instead of MIDI automation? 

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    Re: AUtomation on un automatable parameters !OUTSIDE THE BOX ! 2016/03/02 18:50:00 (permalink)
    Hey guys ,
     
    was asking this question just for the simple fact of seeing if there is a way to automate a parameter e.g a) battery 4 -loop end or start , edison- scrub wheel etc etc the point here is you can move these parameters ( along with many many more ) with your mouse but there is no automation on these parameters and i thought maybe there is a VST CALLED AUTOMATE ANYTHING
    or a windows program that can automate anything , look i know the last 2 lines are very bold but hey 2016 - win 10 super program coders - spaceships to mars , hey not asking much, i think it is a PERFECT IDEA !Just though maybe its done , i do understand the concept of how midi data works in this situation and i realise the thought of this idea is no plauasable but i also believe anything is possible and there is always a work around to make something like this !
    Anyways is great to cast a net , never know what you will catch .
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    Re: AUtomation on un automatable parameters !OUTSIDE THE BOX ! 2016/03/02 18:53:06 (permalink)
    Just want to make it clear battery 4 loop end or start and edison scrub wheels are pure examples of un automatable parameters , both these effects could be replicated and automated using kontakt 5 .The point is being able to automate parameters like these that are not automatable .
     
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