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2009/03/16 10:24:30 (permalink)

Aardvark Q10

Hey all,

I haven't been here in a very long time. I still have my rig that I built about 5 years ago, running Sonar 3 (remember that one?). It's pretty outdated, but I have it streamlined & optimized so it still runs fairly well.
This may be a shot in the dark, but my question is, does anybody still have an Aardvark Q10? And are you still using it? Do you have any problems using it with newer systems and/or software? I remember way back when there was an issue with the last driver released (7.13), right before the company vanished. The previous version (7.04) worked fine for everybody and it's the one that I still use.
I'm considering building a new system but money is extremely tight. So I'm trying to salvage as much as I can, i.e., soundcards.
Thanks for any feedback. I hope to be back here more often.
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    Jim Roseberry
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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/16 10:48:50 (permalink)
    Hi Joe,

    If you get a newer system, it'll have 3.3v PCI slots.
    The Q10 is an older 5v PCI card.
    IOW, The Q10 won't work in any newer system. (Same with the original MOTU PCI 424, Layla, etc)

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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/16 12:08:31 (permalink)
    I still have a Q 10 working on my older system. It runs under XP SP3, but is an older motherboard.
    I use it for transferring cassette tapes for clients, etc. and still leaves my newer machine free for other projects.
    There are no Vista drivers.....

    I went with an RME Fireface 800 unit with my newer DAW. Spendy, but very stable and hassle free

    Best wishes with your upgrade. There's a world of difference between Sonar 8 and 3.
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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/16 18:11:15 (permalink)
    Thanks guys.
    Hey Jim, how do I know if the PCI slots are 3.3v or 5v?
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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/16 18:15:53 (permalink)
    I am still using my Q-10 on a Dell W380 with a 3.4 ghz P4 with 3 gigs of memory running SONAR 8. It works fine but, I really need more I/O and the Q=10 doesn't leave much room to grow.



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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/16 22:34:46 (permalink)
    Anything new will be 3.3v PCI slots.

    You can tell if the PCI card itself is 3.3v (if it has two notches in the contact area)
    If it has a single notch, it's a 5v PCI card.

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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/16 23:20:18 (permalink)
    IOW, The Q10 won't work in any newer system. (Same with the original MOTU PCI 424, Layla, etc)


    Jim, for clarification, is that the 424 or the 324. Only reason I ask is because you said "original" which to me means the 324. I guess I might need to factor in the 424 PCIe for my next pc upgrade. Thanx.

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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/16 23:38:13 (permalink)
    Jim, for clarification, is that the 424 or the 324. Only reason I ask is because you said "original" which to me means the 324. I guess I might need to factor in the 424 PCIe for my next pc upgrade. Thanx.


    That would be *both* the 324 and the original PCI 424.
    The current PCI version of the 424 is the newer PCI-X 424... which will work with either 5v or 3.3v PCI slots.
    You can verify which version you have by looking at the contact area at the bottom of the card.
    If you see a single notch, you have the older 5v 424. Two notches... and you have the newer PCI-X version (which works just fine with newer motherboards/3.3v PCI slots)
    The PCIe 424 is ~$200.



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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/17 01:18:28 (permalink)
    The current PCI version of the 424 is the newer PCI-X 424... which will work with either 5v or 3.3v PCI slots.


    Thanx, it looks like $200 more towards the pc.

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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/17 01:23:27 (permalink)
    So Jim, I guess that the 3.3v PCI slots have 2 notches on the mobo, and the 5v ones have one?
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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/17 14:21:27 (permalink)
    Mine works fine in Sonar 6
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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/17 16:21:33 (permalink)
    My board is not the latest but it is a dual core AMD, AM2x64 2.2ghz running XP Pro (32bit) service pack 3.

    I run an Aark24 and an Aark 20/20. Both of these use the same PCI host card as the Q10 and everything works fine. I even tried them in my friends machine. He was using XP64 and the cards actually worked (which shocked me LOL).

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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/17 23:19:13 (permalink)
    My view on Aardvark sound cards; If they work, great, and use them. If they are giving you problems, switch cards immediately. Dont wast your time.

    I ran a Q10 and LX6 on my P4 2.8 piece o crap for a few years and they worked great. When I upgraded my PC they fell flat on there face with lockups, crashing etc even with massive trouble shooting. I picked up my current Motu card and never looked back.

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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/18 00:21:50 (permalink)
    Lay In Wait,

    The problem is that money is tight. I'm out of work like many of us. I'm just thinking of ways to make money right now, not spend it. But if there are that many compatibility problems with newer components, maybe I'll just look for not so new components. I'm still using an AMD XP2600+ w/1.25 GB RAM, and still able to record all 16 tracks (2 Q10s) simultaneously. Of course, when I start mixing and adding plugins, that's when I feel the pain.
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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/18 02:55:29 (permalink)
    Joe;

    I completely understand your position, trust me I was there when my Aardvark setup turned to poo. I was broke and lived with the problems for far too long. If you can hunt down something newer (as in maybe something with updated drivers) for a decent price you might be better off.

    edit to add; I know this doesn't help much, sorry.
    post edited by Lay In Wait - 2009/03/18 03:03:13

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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/18 05:18:21 (permalink)
    Bladefish,

    You could always go for the cheap upgrade: Find out the highest cpu chip your motherboard will support (that you can afford). If it offers enough of a jump in horsepower from what you currently have, then all you need to do buy the chip, flash to the latest BIOS, and swap cpu's.

    Of course, you don't have to get the absolute highest rated cpu -- most important is finding the "best bang for your buck".

    The beauty of this plan is that you can buy the cpu on Ebay, then sell your old one and recoup some of the cost.

    No matter what you decide --

    Good luck,
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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/18 12:03:44 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Lay In Wait

    My view on Aardvark sound cards; If they work, great, and use them. If they are giving you problems, switch cards immediately. Dont wast your time.

    I ran a Q10 and LX6 on my P4 2.8 piece o crap for a few years and they worked great. When I upgraded my PC they fell flat on there face with lockups, crashing etc even with massive trouble shooting. I picked up my current Motu card and never looked back.



    I completely agree. I have been lucky so far. I did have some problems with the Aark24 when Sonar 7 came out but I was able to work through them.

    I know I am living on borrowed time with the Aardvarks. I fear the next upgrade will be the end of the line for them. Since I am skiping the Sonar 8 upgrade, I'll get another year out them. Sonar 9 will probably mean their retirement. I haven't given much thought to their replacements yet. I'm not sure I need that many inputs any more...

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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/18 12:31:11 (permalink)
    I bought a Q-10 when it first came out back in 2002, and it was great, but as these guys said, a newer PC won't be able to to host it. I had so many problems with it I eventually sold it about 6 months later.

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    RE: Aardvark Q10 2009/03/19 11:03:40 (permalink)
    Thanks guys.
    The XP2600+ actually is the highest rated CPU for my mobo. That's how old it is. I figure upgrading the mobo and CPU is the most efficient and cost effective way to boost my rig. I just won't get the latest greatest thing out there. Meaning the best I can get that is compatible with all of my peripherals.
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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2009/12/21 16:49:22 (permalink)
    I have an Aarvark Q10 that I used to run with my old Athlon XP system if anyone's still interested. It was rock solid.

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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2009/12/21 17:13:42 (permalink)
    I own a relick athlon system wit a q-10. Looked into upgrading and it is pretty much pointless as the q-10 will not function with a duel core system. With no driver updates or support you're dead in the water. That being said, the pres are still some of the best out there in that price point. I am planning on limping my system through for a little longer and upgrading the whole rig. I will then keep my old Q-10 athlon system for the preamps and perhaps use it as a mix down system or what ever. I do infact have it running nicely with Sonar 8.3.1. Good luck and start saving for the new i7.

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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2009/12/21 17:51:07 (permalink)
     I already have the i7!   I posted just in case someone who can't afford to update right now and needs more inputs wants another Q10.  It did run great on my Athlon XP 1800.  I could do about 25 tracks with several plugins. It really is a great sounding card.

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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2009/12/21 19:54:24 (permalink)
    Still using my Q-10 here and it's still working just fine. Sometime, when finances will allow, I'm gonna update to get more inputs. Right now, I'm thinking along the lines of an Echo audiofire 12 (I don't need the preamps). It seems to be the most cost effective way to get more than 8 analog ins, I just hope it will sound as good as my Q-10 and be as reliable as my Q-10.



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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2009/12/21 20:00:32 (permalink)
    Rod,
    If you want an extra Q10 send me a private message.

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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2009/12/21 20:25:37 (permalink)
    Don't think there's any way to reliably run 2 of them together. I suppose it's time to move forward in time anyway. (like I said, when I can afford to, anyway)
    I'd love to get an RME fireface 800 but too much $$$$. I keep hearing good stuff about the Audiofire 12, which would give me 12 ins, I'm just worried it may not sound as good as the Q-10.
    I've always been curious as to why no one ever advertises the Echo stuff. You never hear anything about it. Very few places sell it. Reviews are VERY rare. I'd hate to buy into another company that goes under and leaves all it's products orphaned like Aardvark did.



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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2009/12/22 03:33:41 (permalink)
    I have an aardvark 24/96 card and breakoutbox I might be willing to part with!
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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2011/01/08 07:01:29 (permalink)
    Do you still have the q-10? If so I am interested. My email is o1circle0@aol.com. That unit will work on any 32 bit system up to windows XP, the only problem I have with mine is the fact Sonar after 2.2 at least up to 4 has issues with it, period.  In my opinion Sonar is the problem, not the Aardvark drivers or XP. Actually, I can and have proved it.
    post edited by o3layla1 - 2011/01/08 08:15:44


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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2011/01/08 09:34:04 (permalink)
    I wouldn't invest anymore in it. Eventually you will want to upgrade to Windows 7 and there are not drivers for it. 

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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2011/01/08 14:01:31 (permalink)
    o3layla1


    Do you still have the q-10? If so I am interested. My email is o1circle0@aol.com. That unit will work on any 32 bit system up to windows XP, the only problem I have with mine is the fact Sonar after 2.2 at least up to 4 has issues with it, period.  In my opinion Sonar is the problem, not the Aardvark drivers or XP. Actually, I can and have proved it.


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    Re:Aardvark Q10 2011/03/20 05:39:39 (permalink)
    So is there a snowball's chance that a Q10 will work with Sonar Producer 8.5? I just upgraded to Sonar from Audacity (that should give you an idea as to where I'm at in the evolutionary process) but it can't seem to 'see' the Q10. Any suggestions?
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