Aaron's Sonar Mp3 Encoder Patch v2

Aaron I quite like the sound of the idea. But why the antagonistic stance?

Cakewalk don't make you pay the license fee in fact there is an encoder utility you can use whatever encoder you like.

The only reason that I can think of why Cakewalk don't bundle it as a free deal is that it's just a hangover from when they would have had to have paid out a bulk license fee to include it as part of the functionality of the actual DAW.

I did a search for your file and all I can find is torrents for it and I have no intention of installing a torrent downloader on my machine to get it. Besides if it was legal as you claim why not provide a download link?

I find the world is a much cooler place the less I indulge the thought that they are all out to get me.

Peace Brother!

Right right... well the reason I don't provide a direct link to it is exactly the reason you are describing... I don't think it would be right to directly offer a patch that makes their encoder obsolete. By that I mean: with their existing configuration utility, you can hook up any encoder you want, but (please correct me if I'm wrong) only at one set bitrate.
 This patch adds entries to the export menu, labelled by bitrate and you can have more than one. You can use just one or two, or the whole list (from 32kbps to 320kbps stereo 44.1khz 16-bit).
 Jonbuoy, contrary to popular belief, .torrent files are not strictly for pirated songs, movies, and software. A lot of us will use the torrent system to distribute and share perfectly legal things as well, and since LAME is freeware, I used it for this patch. I do understand your hesitancy with that idea, but I'm unaware of any other way I can "host" this file for people to download... any ideas regarding that would be appreciated.
 I tried to send the patch to you directly, I'm going to try again as I've just received a new email from you lol...
  There's NO worries with this patch, people... that's why my name is on it: use it safely to your hearts' content.
Foxwolfen, thanks for the info, that's more reason for me NOT to post a direct link here at Cakewalk's forum. I absolutely appreciate the work Cakewalk does and again, I don't want to jeopardize any of it in any way conceivable.
 So yah, unless there's a place I can share a non-torrent version of this patch, I'm stuck to emailing it out.... sorry!
Aaron Bewza

That is a great idea! Thank you for the offer... but it might prove to be a little difficult, as the installer contains both the 32-bit AND 64-bit versions of LAME encoder (the user gets to pick during installation) and they have to go into "C:\Program Files\Aaron's Sonar Mp3 Encoder" folder to match the registry entries' information. Otherwise the audio export will generate errors... because the registry entries point to the LAME encoder's location.

 Do you want a copy of it, foxwolfen? you can open the registry entries with Notepad and see what I'm talking about...
 

i have no idea! you know, I'm not exactly sure how proprietary .MP3 files are to begin with. I found this at About.com:
"The German company Fraunhofer-Gesellshaft developed MP3 technology and now licenses the patent rights to the audio compression technology - United States Patent 5,579,430 for a "digital encoding process". The inventors named on the MP3 patent are Bernhard Grill, Karl-Heinz Brandenburg, Thomas Sporer, Bernd Kurten, and Ernst Eberlein."

 So I guess it would really be up to them who gets to encode into mp3. I live in Canada so I'm sure the situation out here (for downloading stuff etc...) is different than say, the U.S.A. or Sweden.

It also would explain Cakewalk's licensing requirements on its own encoder.

... I don't think Fraunhofer-Gesellshaft would really blink their eye at this patch though. Otherwise LAME would not exist for me to use it in the first place.

I'd hate to appear "antagonistic" in any way lol but I just wanna be careful.

BTW do any of you know a spot I can place this thing so people can DL it directly? I'm a noob for knowing anything like that beyond .torrents... thanks in advance for any advice you might have on that.

Thompson Consumer Electronic holds the patent in the US and Canada, and is apparently enforcing it.

It is legal to distribute the source code, not a compiled binary. Some people in countries that do not recognize the patents, host binaries.

Fog


if your thing is based on lame, and you give it a credit. then it's ok.. have a look at the GPL license.

if cake were that bothered , why would they give you the chance to use an external encoder in their options

Actually, that's a good point, you have to give LAME credit and include access to the source (which can be done via the webpage). However that does not cover the patent issues (the GPL is a copyright license).

so you've built a patch but not an installer? hmm.

foxwolfen

However that does not cover the patent issues (the GPL is a copyright license).

lame.. is lame is lame...  the whole point of it existing is because of the other thing being chargeable.. it's a bit like how open office came about..

if it's based on lame, there is no issue with it... hence.. lamedrop etc..

ah ok aaron and fog...there is a way to get LAME into Sonar quite easily, but if yours is easier...let's have it!

listen i use flashget a lot so torrents are fine, just send it as a folder so you can scan the file b4 you open it, i didn't get 130gb mp3 music entirely thru ripping my cds:-)

As always, I put my name on stuff I'm satisfied with. If some company has an issue with me, I'll stop distributing it directly. But if you think about it, it's already been put out there dozens and dozens of times and if people just P2P it via email and .torrents, it'll stay out there. The only way this will cease to work is if Cakewalk changes the code in Sonar, and why would they be bothered to do so if it's a home-built third-party encoder involved?


for those of you unsure of torrent sites but still want a safe torrent, the one I uploaded personally at The Pirate Bay is a good verified one... my username there is "blackwidowfarms" so if there's any doubt, look for that one. Here's the link:

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5105710/Aaron_s_Sonar_MP3_Encoder_Patch_v2

cheers!