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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/15 13:05:20
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Initial impressions...
NICE.
It adds some niceness to tracks and overall mixes..
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/15 16:00:43
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BTW...the interface on the plug is incredible...
Not that moving tape reels ads anything..and only
eats up cpu, but it does LOOK really kewl....LOL
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/15 17:42:14
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That looks pretty sexy! I got Paul's new cd today and here is a Abbey Road tape machine! It must be a sign.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/15 19:05:34
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clintmartin
That looks pretty sexy! I got Paul's new cd today and here is a Abbey Road tape machine! It must be a sign.
it is QUITE sexy...LOL
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/15 22:22:48
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Wasn't really impressed with the tape sim in X3, so maybe this is the one. I'm trying to find info on the delay unit because tape delay is the bomb in my book.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/15 22:42:25
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I've been playing with it and thought the X3 tape sim was holding up pretty good (although limited). Hahaha! That J37 has a beautiful gui though...It says Abbey road on it which makes me feel all warm and groovy inside. FWIW the IK tape echo is pretty good.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/15 22:55:04
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So how does the Waves Wup work? I only have One knob louder. I went ahead and got the Kramer master tape demo with the J37. I'm liking the tape sims...I wouldn't mind getting one someday. The J37 is $127.99 @Audiodeluxe.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/15 23:01:09
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I like the Sonar X3 tape simulator. Obviously easy to use and adds thickness and another dimension really painlessly.
I have the Kramer tape sim from Waves and I have really valued that. It was pricey when I got it but I haven't regretted it. It can add quite a few cool aspects that are hard to describe but very pleasing to the ear.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/15 23:13:43
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ampfixer
Wasn't really impressed with the tape sim in X3, so maybe this is the one. I'm trying to find info on the delay unit because tape delay is the bomb in my book.
you tried u-he satin also ? I bought it after trying it out..
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 06:22:17
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Stain is excellent and has quickly become a favorite, especially for delays.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 08:03:21
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☄ Helpfulby dlesaux 2013/10/19 07:50:35
clintmartin
So how does the Waves Wup work? I only have One knob louder. I went ahead and got the Kramer master tape demo with the J37. I'm liking the tape sims...I wouldn't mind getting one someday.
The J37 is $127.99 @Audiodeluxe.
Clint, The WUP is a fee that is paid, and if any upgrades come out during that period they are free. It's kind of like "insurance" on your plugins. The fee varies, based on the plugin(s), and gives at least 1 year of coverage, in many cases more. If you own a lot of Waves plugins, the WUP is capped at $300, but you get a discount of $60, making it $240, and WUP is extended on ALL plugins from the date of the LAST purchase you made, if you buy it for all your plugins at the same time. My advice in this regards...if you plan on doing WUP for all of your plugins, buy another one right before you do the WUP, and that will extend ALL the plugins for a year from the time you bought that last plugin. It gives you more value for your money.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 12:43:00
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I only have the never used "One knob louder". So if I bought the J37, It would come with a new wup and extend the one for One knob? If in a year I don't want anything else, Do I lose the ability to download the J37? Or am I just stuck with it as is...with no further updates? I can live with that, as it should be tweaked by then anyway. I just wouldn't want to buy something and then lose access to it in the future.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 12:49:36
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clintmartin
I only have the never used "One knob louder". So if I bought the J37, It would come with a new wup and extend the one for One knob? If in a year I don't want anything else, Do I lose the ability to download the J37? Or am I just stuck with it as is...with no further updates? I can live with that, as it should be tweaked by then anyway. I just wouldn't want to buy something and then lose access to it in the future.
Clint, When you buy the plugin in comes with 1 year WUP included. If a new version comes out in that one year it's free. You only get the WUP extension when you buy it. Buying a new plugin only includes 1 year WUP FOR THAT PLUGIN, not any of the others. If you buy WUP for them right after you buy the J37, then you'll get 2 years of WUP for BOTH plugins, as the WUP will add 1 year to existing one year of J37 and all others comes along for the ride. It's a crazy system. But that's how it works. That's why every time I do the WUP I make sure I've just bought a new plugin, and then ALL my plugins get extend for 2 years. It's a win win that way...
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 12:57:32
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Here's an example...
If I own CLA, Maserati, JJP, Manny, and Eddie Kramer my price for an additional 1 year of WUP would be $240...
The WUP on these will expire in a few days. So I go and buy the J37. That includes 1 year os WUP.
So, right after I buy the J37, I then do the WUP for ALL my plugins. Since my J37 doesn't expire for
1 year, doing the WUP on ALL my plugins right after purchase will get me THAT year PLUS another
year for ALL my plugins, making it 2 years for all my plugins. It's a way to save money,
Otherwise I'd have to pay the $240 every year.
Don't know if that makes sense to you or not...but, as I said, it's a crazy system, and that's my
methodology for beating their system and getting the most bang for my buck.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 13:35:32
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cclarry
clintmartin
I only have the never used "One knob louder". So if I bought the J37, It would come with a new wup and extend the one for One knob? If in a year I don't want anything else, Do I lose the ability to download the J37? Or am I just stuck with it as is...with no further updates? I can live with that, as it should be tweaked by then anyway. I just wouldn't want to buy something and then lose access to it in the future.
Clint,
When you buy the plugin in comes with 1 year WUP included. If a new version comes out in that one year it's free.
You only get the WUP extension when you buy it. Buying a new plugin only includes 1 year WUP FOR THAT PLUGIN,
not any of the others. If you buy WUP for them right after you buy the J37, then you'll get 2 years of WUP for BOTH
plugins, as the WUP will add 1 year to existing one year of J37 and all others comes along for the ride.
It's a crazy system. But that's how it works. That's why every time I do the WUP I make sure I've just bought a new plugin,
and then ALL my plugins get extend for 2 years. It's a win win that way...
Except that doesn't apply with Abbey Road (J37, RS56 and King's Mic) and SSL (E-Channel, G-Master Buss Compressor, G-Equalizer and G-Channel)
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 14:51:27
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Carl,
I have the SSL Collection and haven't encountered this...and never heard this about Abbey Road...
REDD gets it....why wouldn't the others? I don't see any disclaimer when I go to the WUP page.
Just curious where that info is?
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 14:53:36
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Ok...just found one catch...you have to do the WUP within 1 month of expiration to get the $240 price...otherwise it's $300... So buy a plug one month before your other ones expire and get the $240 price... still the best way to go...
post edited by cclarry - 2013/10/16 14:55:28
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ltb
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 15:13:11
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cclarry
Carl,
I have the SSL Collection and haven't encountered this...and never heard this about Abbey Road...
REDD gets it....why wouldn't the others? I don't see any disclaimer when I go to the WUP page.
Just curious where that info is?
They have different licensing agreements with Abbey Road and Solid State Logic. REDD includes the AR name description but released as a 'Waves plugin' exclusively.
post edited by carl - 2013/10/16 15:26:24
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 16:18:48
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So...Let's say I buy it. A year from now I decide I don't want to buy the wup. Is this plugin still mine? Or did I rent it?
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 16:21:51
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Yes, it's yours forever. If it gets updated & you're not covered you'll need to purchase another WUP first. Then you're covered for another year.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 16:51:10
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cclarry
I don't see any disclaimer when I go to the WUP page.
Just curious where that info is?
Well I email support last night because I getting a "license not found" for the J37 after I installed the latest version. The J37 was listed as part of a full Mercury install (which is the misleading part) just like Kings Mics and RS56). Support said the J37 (like the Kings Mics and the RS56) are under a separate license agreement with Abbey Road. BTW, I believe that AudioDeluxe.com offers a discount on WUP (maxed at $240) with no limitations as to when you buy it. I'm not 100% on that but a solid 89.987684536394% certain.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 16:51:54
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The picture in the gallery section on the Waves J37 page shows it to be a Studder tape machine. Has anyone compared the J37 to UAD's Studder A800? The price of the J37 is clearly better for me, but wonder how it compares in sound. Anyone got both?
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 17:58:18
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small video (first contact) i made yesturday ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_cJ_R2Xyss&feature=c4-overview&list=UUtqpV5UiTcxuAtR-BpW1Ihw i do not feel the plugin really optimised...but sounds great ..a litlle upset as a mercury user that this sin't included , if on mercury we gonna have included only bul**** lifeless plugins ....i will really start getting away from them ! cause really bying hudnreds plugins to use quite 20% is only acceptable because of what was the deal back then : mercury = all inclusiv now and future release !
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 19:48:13
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I spent a bit of time with the demo and I'm really digging it. I ran some acoustic guitar through it and got great results. The bias controls work, as does the tape select. Both these are EQ related. The delay is unique to me. Not only do you play with time but also frequencies. The HP/LP filters produce some cool changes to the tape delay that I've not seen before.
It's not a question of If, it's more of a when for this plug. Get the current special or chance a bargain later in the Fall.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 20:21:26
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How does the Abbey Road sound compared to Kramer Master Tape?
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/16 21:18:37
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I have slate Tape how does it compare to that? Anyone know?
I was disappointed in the Kramer Tape by Waves.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/17 01:26:52
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I have positive things to say about the Kramer Tape. It can be subtle or very obvious and can add many interesting aspects.
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/18 05:26:10
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How can i get this EQ analyser, shown in this video from
about 50 sec to 4 mins, on youtubesearch for : Waves J37 Tape Emulation (Abbey Road) : First Contact !! EDIT: ohh i see, vst plugin analyzer : http://www.savioursofsoul.de/Christian/programs/measurement-programs/but only for 32bit and standalone then 
wish it was a plugin, so i could use it in the DAW, to Quick copmpare EQ's in an FX chain..
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Re: Abbey Road Tape Saturation
2013/10/18 07:46:49
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Hi guys! some questions ... - How important is it to be on the WUP i.e. how frequently does WAVES release updates and how serious are they changes / fixes?
- What's your preferred use of tape emus? Are you using it mainly as FX on selected tracks where suitable - or in some sort of vintage set-up with a tape emu in every channel @ start of the chain and @ same settings? how hard would the later hit your system? anyone using it on mix buses /stems?
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