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2011/03/29 18:00:17 (permalink)

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Sorry, i thought it was 2.0, I was confused with the advertisement with the "upgrade to 2.0". It's the one on the website of abg that was set for download. I'm away from m system so I can't check exactly.

And it's okay, that wasn't the main reason for quitting sonar.  :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/29 18:04:23 (permalink)
    Mis thread. This was meant as a reply. Itouch with this forum results to failure. I'm sorry guys!

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 00:41:26 (permalink)
    Yeah that explains it Severed. The one offered on the web site is 1.06, which was released right before I joined the company. I have no problems running 1.06 on all versions of Sonar. But, we've come so far in our technology since 1.06...man, the new stuff we're working on will blow you away. We're building amps and saving them inside .jpg's now with the picture of your choice. You simply download the picture and drag and drop the pic into our amp loader and bang...instant amp. The .jpg also stores information in the back half of the photo...so it just looks like a normal pic until you drag it into our VST. We're also going to release the builder so anyone can build the amp of their choice. 2, 4, or 6 tubes at once, no tubes and solid state, clean, crunch and stupendously distorted, it's pretty killer. More for people that like to tweak than guys that just want to plug in and go. But we'll be offering loads of amps to just "Drag and drop" so those that just want to plug in and go will be well taken care of too. :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 02:34:50 (permalink)
    Hey Severed, here's a demo I did with the new Head Case all done in Sonar X1. It's a bit obnoxious and "shreddy" but it's supposed to be. I recorded this originally using Shred 1.06, but lost the files in a pc melt-down that I never backed up because I was just doing stuff for myself while testing. So I had to re-record the entire thing. I couldn't use the old plug for this anyway and I improved it from the original as well. It's me playing everything in this...bass and drums too using a V Drums kit. Check it out if you get a minute...this thing does more than metal...some really killer cleans, classic rock sounds as well as old Plexi type stuff too. I just wanted to rip in this example though. The head used here is one I helped to build called "Skull Job".

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/Shred%20OnII_Hc_X1_2Master16.mp3

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 02:53:58 (permalink)
    Danny Danzi


    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/Shred%20OnII_Hc_X1_2Master16.mp3

    Hope ya like it. :)
    Forgive me for eavesdropping on your thread, but just wanted to say that your tune sounded pretty fun!  I liked how pretty much everything sounded (though I couldn't quite hear the cowbell, maybe you need more of it?).


     
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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 04:06:41 (permalink)
    That's a nice tune Danny, and even nicer tone! I always believe in ABG. (Well it's the only thing i've been using for 2 albums now, along with BIG).

    Who the hell needs another product when you can tweak your way to heaven with ABG products? (Fanboy alert, but that was serious)

    How can i have a try of that Head Case? By the way, i wish BIG also had the crossing-over-different-amps style. I wish for more tweakability with BIG.

    Honestly, i stated out with ABG because i didn't have money for POD or Guitar Rig, but when i tried it, it was better than both of them IMO (I've tried othe people's PODs, heck, they were so convinient to use with the presets, but i still love to tweak so it's not a problem for me.)
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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 05:12:37 (permalink)
    Ermmm, I'm probably going to look very silly for asking this, but whats ABG?



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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 05:44:34 (permalink)
    Craig: LOL!! I'll pump up the cowbell next time. I just got a new one that I'm dying to use actually. :)

    Severed: Glad ya liked it, thanks. I'll get a package together for you for Head Case. This totally blows Big and anything else we've done completely out of the water. I'll make a deal with ya...get me an autograph from Manny Pacquiao and I'll send you an upload link. Hahaha! I'm just kidding. :) Have you ever met him? Seems like such a cool guy. I hope he never loses another fight. We love him over here. :)

    Eric: ABG stands for AcmeBarGig which is a little VST plugin company that makes amp sims. :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 05:48:43 (permalink)
    Severed, I sent you a pm with some information. :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 06:41:59 (permalink)
    Pacquiao's down in Southern California Danny.  I've never met him, but chances are actually good that I will.  That said, so far he's only annoyed me and cost an organization I used to be director of about $4,000 (a side story).  How's that for intrigue?

    Anyway, back on topic!  ABG.  So who's your main competition Danny?  Guitar Rig?  Something else?  I've always used real guitar gear, but that's not really possible right now so maybe plug-ins can keep me happy for a while.

    Just saw the website.  Looks like you've got some, um, shall we say "creative?" names there.  Here's a few that are missing: Dead Head (that Grateful sound), Flat Head (for pedal steel?), Diamond Head (for surf music?), Machine Head (Industrial?), Red Head (AIC?), Bed Head (Grunge?), Skin Head (Sex Pistols?), Pin Head (New Wave?), Dread Head (Reggae?), Egg Head (Devo?), Goat Head (Death Metal?), Chicken Head (Country?), Butt Head (no idea!) and Chowder Head (Progressive?).  LOL!

    Hehe...  I'll have to try some of these once I get a chance.  Might be fun for some reamping!

     
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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 06:55:53 (permalink)
    ABG makes fun little ampsims I find...

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 07:05:11 (permalink)
    Looks that way, but I'm still trying to figure out their products!  Is it really true that all you need to buy is Head Case (which comes with the only other product that I've seen with a price, iFace)?
     
    What am I missing here?

     
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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 07:28:05 (permalink)
    @Craig

    Used them all, except for the Head Case and the IFace

    The Redshift pickup enhancer included in Shred is one of the most useful plugs i've ever had, since my pickups are generic and low output.

    The Cab enhancer is a great tool too.

    @Danny

    Actually, never. His Philippine residence is at far south of here. We have 3 divisions, Luzon, Visayas and Mindano. Metro Manila (Capital of PH) is in Luzon, while he's at General Santos City (Visayas). So it's one plane from here to there.

    Although if i get the chance to meet him, i'll get you one for sure.

    By the way, does ABG have web banners? I'd be honored to put an ABG banner on our band's page, as an official supporter and user.

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 07:39:31 (permalink)
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    Pacquiao's down in Southern California Danny.  I've never met him, but chances are actually good that I will.  That said, so far he's only annoyed me and cost an organization I used to be director of about $4,000 (a side story).  How's that for intrigue?

    Anyway, back on topic!  ABG.  So who's your main competition Danny?  Guitar Rig?  Something else?  I've always used real guitar gear, but that's not really possible right now so maybe plug-ins can keep me happy for a while.

    Just saw the website.  Looks like you've got some, um, shall we say "creative?" names there.  Here's a few that are missing: Dead Head (that Grateful sound), Flat Head (for pedal steel?), Diamond Head (for surf music?), Machine Head (Industrial?), Red Head (AIC?), Bed Head (Grunge?), Skin Head (Sex Pistols?), Pin Head (New Wave?), Dread Head (Reggae?), Egg Head (Devo?), Goat Head (Death Metal?), Chicken Head (Country?), Butt Head (no idea!) and Chowder Head (Progressive?).  LOL!

    Hehe...  I'll have to try some of these once I get a chance.  Might be fun for some reamping!

    Here's more:
     
    Pot Head (Psychedelic, Stoner), BeHeaded (Grindcore).

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 18:46:32 (permalink)
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    Pacquiao's down in Southern California Danny.  I've never met him, but chances are actually good that I will.  That said, so far he's only annoyed me and cost an organization I used to be director of about $4,000 (a side story).  How's that for intrigue?

    Anyway, back on topic!  ABG.  So who's your main competition Danny?  Guitar Rig?  Something else?  I've always used real guitar gear, but that's not really possible right now so maybe plug-ins can keep me happy for a while.

    Just saw the website.  Looks like you've got some, um, shall we say "creative?" names there.  Here's a few that are missing: Dead Head (that Grateful sound), Flat Head (for pedal steel?), Diamond Head (for surf music?), Machine Head (Industrial?), Red Head (AIC?), Bed Head (Grunge?), Skin Head (Sex Pistols?), Pin Head (New Wave?), Dread Head (Reggae?), Egg Head (Devo?), Goat Head (Death Metal?), Chicken Head (Country?), Butt Head (no idea!) and Chowder Head (Progressive?).  LOL!

    Hehe...  I'll have to try some of these once I get a chance.  Might be fun for some reamping!

    Oh wow, sorry to hear that about Manny, Craig. I don't know anything about him other than he's a great boxer and seems to be one that doesn't talk trash and cares about others. That's what the sports media says anyway. I've never done any research on him to know how he is as a human being. I do love him as a boxer and think it's great that he never crap talks anyone...he just shows people what he can do and doesn't need to talk about it.
     
    As for ABG and our competition, that is in the ears of the user really. We don't look at any competition right now because we sincerely feel no one has what we have. I've used amp sims for a very long time. Of course I'm biased towards my real tube guitar pre's and stuff, but one day I tried the ABG stuff and was blown away. I have Amplitube Metal, Fender, Waves GTR, Guitar Rig, Revalver all versions, some free amp sims etc...so I've been into this stuff for a while. It can really help when you're on the road and may not have any gear with you in your hotel room except a guitar.
     
    But I had tried a few pieces from ABG and thought they were really decent. Not as good as what was already out there, but the company had some promise. For free plugs...you can't beat them. So one day, I was checking out their site and had noticed they had this "Shred" thing available. I tried it and was able to dial up a sound that so close to my favorite tube pre, I was shaking my head in disbelief. Some guy had posted a message on another forum I frequent. I commented that I thought the plug was incredible, voiced some of my personal opinions on it, told him what I felt could make it better as well as showing interest in the company.
     
    The next thing you know, I get a pm from this guy. I come to find out he was the owner of the company. LOL! He asked me to get involved, I said "definitely" and that's how it all started. I was pretty much (and still am) just a beta tester, but I actually help to develop the stuff by making suggestions and giving examples. I've really put a lot of time into this with tone stacks, recording several amps and pre-amps that I own and have posted the data for all this stuff. I've learned so much man, it's crazy. I came up with a concept for a tone stack a few months ago. I told the owner everything I wanted it to do...how it should react, what frequencies should be accentuated when you touch a knob etc....in a week, the dude creates a beta of for me and says "how about you tell it what frequencies you want it to accentuate on each knob instead of me?"
     
    Well man, I about hit the roof with excitement! Can you imagine literally telling your amp what frequencies it's going to put out and how dominant they are just by turning a knob? You literally create the voice YOU want for that amp. Then of course I've been really involved with the whole "creature comforts" part of our development. I think this is really important.
     
    But getting back to your question about competition, nah man, we have our own voice and our own sound. We never look at it as competition. We want people to get the best sound possible without charging them a bundle. If anything, I feel WE are the competition because at $26 bucks, we're smoking the competition like a blunt in my opinion with more options, better sounds, less cpu resources and something that truly works both live and in the studio. Sure there are some great amp sims out there, but in my opinion, and this is just not me being biased. I have yet to get the sounds I was looking for out of them. I've not had a problem getting anything with Head Case.
     
    As for the names, yeah, the company has a cool sense of humor. That's why I named my head what it's called. We have T-shirts too. Mine says ABG Skull Job "the best head a man can get". LOL! There's a story behind that, but I'll spare you because it goes beyond pg-13. But it would definitely make you crack up. LMAO!
     
    For what it's worth, I turned our good buddy Jim Roseberry onto these amps and he was pretty impressed as well. Definitely something to consider if you are into this sort of thing. We have a bunch of new IR cabs as well as our own home made speaker sim filtered cabs built into it. We also teamed up with Redwirez for some pretty killer cabs too. So it's going to be quite a sim once it's ready.
     
    The problem with the whole thing is, we have a company owner that seriously is a perfectionist as well as a genius. The dude will have something we all feel is great, yet won't be totally great to him. So he'll rebuild the entire thing. This seems to happen all the time and has always worried me about his decision making. But, it's his baby and I'm just happy to be along for the ride and hopefully I can make a difference in how good these things sound. If not, I sure did learn a lot about this stuff and have made some great friends and connections from it...so it's all good. :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 19:11:37 (permalink)
    Cool.  That's exactly what I was curious about.  Plus, while trying to survive until our startup begins making the cheddar, I've had to sell a LOT of gear (including 13 guitars and basses, ten cabs, 20 amps & preamps, and eight effects units - all without mentioning the number of synths and samplers that have gone bye-bye!).  Right now, most of what's left is in storage patiently waiting for me so PC-based amp-sims sound very interesting.

    I guess I'm just missing what their actual products are!  I mean, if you're giving most of it away for free, how do you stay in business???

    (And don't worry about the Manny issue, it wasn't that bad and it probably wasn't really his fault anyway.)

     
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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 20:59:06 (permalink)
    Well the whole thing behind the free thing was to have people get the stuff for nothing and post their thoughts so the products could be improved. No sense selling something loaded with bugs, know what I mean? So he released stuff for free in hopes he'd get to know people, they'd get to know him, and respect that they got somethig for free. Work out all the bugs, then create something grand and then charge a small fee for it.

    You figure, as of now, for Shred alone, we had nearly 800,000 downloads. If 200,000 people paid the $26 for it, that's a really nice push for the company who presently, has all the people working for it, working for "the love" on the side. None of us makes a dime. The code guys, the graphics guys, the engineers, none of them. If Ken the owner makes a few bucks, we're all going to be compensated. None of us want anything though. The people that are involved with ABG are in it to make a difference for the love of the instrument and the sounds that are possible. If we can make a difference, that's what we're after. If we can make a few bucks, that's a nice plus but none of us are expecting it or hoping for anything but to see the compnay owner's dream become reality...and us knowing we helped to make that difference is enough for us. I know...sounds weird, but the entire company is made up of those types of people. We all make our money elsewhere and this just something we considered as "we're going to be serious about having fun and making something great". :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 21:20:39 (permalink)
    So, let's say you were going to try all their stuff then.  Since some things apparently are part of other packages, what would you need to buy/download?  Head Case obviously, but what else?  Hmm... I wonder where I put my old Darla soundcard...

     
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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 21:30:19 (permalink)
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    So, let's say you were going to try all their stuff then.  Since some things apparently are part of other packages, what would you need to buy/download?  Head Case obviously, but what else?  Hmm... I wonder where I put my old Darla soundcard...

    Well, I'm allowed to give this out...so, I'd start and end with this.
     
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/Head%20Case%201.01%20DEMO%20BETA-Setup.rar
     
    A manual we started: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/1.5x%20Manual.doc
     
    Only drawback with this beta for me as a Sonar user, long initial load-up times. About 22 seconds. If you can't get a good sound out of this thing....man, I don't know what to say. See what you think. :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 21:39:09 (permalink)
    One other thing Craig....there's a video I made for some people that were claiming they couldn't get good results out of the plug and said it was overly noisy etc....I made a video to show them how I use it and to also show them how to use the "input gain". This is extremely important because this drives the signal into the amp. So give this a watch when you get a minute.

    The sounds here took me less than a minte to create, so they are not perfect but they work. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/DannyHeadcaseFun.zip

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 21:52:35 (permalink)
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    Hey Severed, here's a demo I did with the new Head Case all done in Sonar X1. It's a bit obnoxious and "shreddy" but it's supposed to be. I recorded this originally using Shred 1.06, but lost the files in a pc melt-down that I never backed up because I was just doing stuff for myself while testing. So I had to re-record the entire thing. I couldn't use the old plug for this anyway and I improved it from the original as well. It's me playing everything in this...bass and drums too using a V Drums kit. Check it out if you get a minute...this thing does more than metal...some really killer cleans, classic rock sounds as well as old Plexi type stuff too. I just wanted to rip in this example though. The head used here is one I helped to build called "Skull Job".

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/Shred%20OnII_Hc_X1_2Master16.mp3

    Hope ya like it. :)


    danzi,this ripps dude..blown on the floor right now..you sound like the recreation of george lynch.and please dont take that as an insult my friend..killer runs bro..its got that new jersy feel to it..which one of my all time favorite guitar players scotti hill from skid row is from...whats dropbox in the link mean..my buddy plays in a band called dropbox his band was signed by the same guys who signed godsmack.paul geary..who used to be in "extreme" with nuno...any way they just formed another band called "another animal" with the old lead singer of ugly kid joe.he let me hear an unreleased demo a few weeks ago..its awesome...whitford crane sounds totaly different from those old ugly kid days.anyway..glad i clicked on that link..your awesome danny.

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 21:59:14 (permalink)
    Hi Charlie,

    No offense taken....George has been an inspiration of mine for quite a while...so I thank you for that. :)

    The dopbox thing is a program that allows for folder sharing as well as an online server. It has nothing to do with the band you mentioned. You can read more about dropbox at www.dropbox.com as it's a great utility for both personal stuff (if you don't have your own hosting or file server) and you can also make folders with friends. Anything you put in that shared folder, appears in his folder with the same name on his pc. Very cool if you have a business as well. Most of my clients have a drop box account (it's free) so we create a folder, I share it, they drop their work files in the folder, I do my job on them and then upload the finished works to the folder and they get it on their side. :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 22:09:40 (permalink)
    Wow, looks like some great stuff there Danny!  I've downloaded, but I have no idea when I'll be able to get to my storage to find what I need to connect my guitars to my PC's...

    Man I wish I had my full studio up!  (And had more time, and more money, and... lol!)

     
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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 22:15:57 (permalink)
    Craig, you can use your onboard sound with that if you need to. If you have like a Realtek or something, just drop asio4all drivers in, get a splitter for your guitar so you have 1/4 on the guitar end, and 1/8 to go into line in on the onboard sound and that will work. I do it all the time on my internet pc as well as my lappy...and it works great. The only issue you may encounter is a bit of noise because onboard sound seems to form a loop of sorts. It does it with every plug I have ever tried...Amplitube, Waves, Guitar Rig, every single one. You can most times gate out the noise or slip edit it...but for some reason, this is just an artifact of using onboard sound. Make sure you disable line in "playback" in your windows sound control so the clean sound doesn't mix with the dirty of the plug. Other than the above though, it should work really well for you bro. :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 22:21:26 (permalink)
    Danny Danzi


    Hi Charlie,

    No offense taken....George has been an inspiration of mine for quite a while...so I thank you for that. :)

    The dopbox thing is a program that allows for folder sharing as well as an online server. It has nothing to do with the band you mentioned. You can read more about dropbox at www.dropbox.com as it's a great utility for both personal stuff (if you don't have your own hosting or file server) and you can also make folders with friends. Anything you put in that shared folder, appears in his folder with the same name on his pc. Very cool if you have a business as well. Most of my clients have a drop box account (it's free) so we create a folder, I share it, they drop their work files in the folder, I do my job on them and then upload the finished works to the folder and they get it on their side. :)

    Thanks for the kind words Charlie, much appreciated my friend.

    danny seems like when your not even looking for it ..it just falls in your lap...meaning ive been looking for something like this for a while now..thank you very much for the link.me and my guitarist live about 20 miles away but jam in central location(boston)so we have been discussing this for a while now and this is just what ive been waiting for,kinda give me a chance to get the ball rooling..besides when anyone ever says the F word...ummm,,"free...the free word is cool..and im somewhat of a gypsy when it comes to free..so im on this..thanks again danny

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/30 22:24:38 (permalink)
    also please keep in mind if anyone ever wants to colaborate on a project..id love to try out the dropbox that way as well i find it increadable..im good for lead vocal..i have a soundclick page if anyone is interested.you can hear my style of voice..sorry for the highjack here..im done..sorry

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/31 08:17:31 (permalink)
    Nothing to be sorry about man...if this thread gets you the chance to jam with someone online, it did more than what it was intended. :)

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/31 14:01:03 (permalink)
    Danny, update!

    On Cubase 5.1, Shred 1.06 works without no problems.

    The Demo you gave glitches in it though.
    Once you load the VST, it'll sound for about 5 seconds, then it will mute the entire system. You can't hear anything. Then it will freeze (The freezing may or may not be related to the muting though)

    Did that info help?

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    Re:Abg 2011/03/31 18:43:16 (permalink)
    Hmm, we've not had any reports or issues using Cubase at this time. I'll look into this for you and get back to you with any information I receive. Sorry it didn't work for you. :(

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    Re:Abg 2011/04/01 00:58:46 (permalink)
    @Danny

    No sweat! It's my pleasure to be helping you guys find bugs and glitches, and give suggestions. Love the product and i'm more than happy to help improve it!
    Treat me as your friendly unofficial beta volunteer tester! (Man that was long)

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