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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/13 18:21:29
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Supposed to be quite good. I demoed a couple once and couldn't begin to figure the GUIs out...very complex and non-intuitive...at least for a dim bulb like moi.
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/13 18:23:22
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I've been checking out their Home Page...
The GUI's are pretty nice looking...don't know if they are any good or not though... They have a bunch of Freebies...might have to download the try them out...
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cclarry
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/13 18:39:50
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Well the AcquaVox preamp does nothing....no change in audio whatsover... no it's not bypassed, yes it's on...yes I changed every parameter...no change.. Now THAT is an awesome plugin!
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Eddie TX
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/13 19:04:57
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As you may already know, these are the folks behind Nebula. A whole sub-sub-sub-culture unto itself. If you're patient enough to get into it and figure out (more or less) what it's about, it's worth the effort for the ability to run some really sweet (and relatively inexpensive) EQ, reverb, tape, and console emulators. The best ones are developed and sold by third parties like CDSoundMaster, AlexB, Henry Olonga, Cupwise, and TimP. CDSM's tape emus are fantastic, AlexB's consoles and EQs are very nice (I preferred his API 550a over the one from UAD), and Henry O. has a plethora of wild and insanely cheap stuff. Just a few examples of what's available. Unfortunately, the free Nebula demo isn't that impressive. To really get it, the Nebula 3 Pro plugin is required, at which point you can download and run lots of free demos from the aforementioned vendors. Then you have the issues of weird GUI, separate plugin instances for each EQ band, frequent heavy CPU usage, and somewhat spotty vendor support. Still, a very interesting technology to explore in your copious amounts of spare time. Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/13 19:07:07
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So are these like placebo plugins? Trying to see if they can use the power of suggestion to make us think we're hearing an effect?
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/13 21:00:53
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I think Eddie has it about right.
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/13 22:45:35
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Leadfoot So are these like placebo plugins? Trying to see if they can use the power of suggestion to make us think we're hearing an effect?
I'm with Leadfoot...I got nothing...I downloaded the 3 free plugins...they did absolutely nothing whatsoever... DELETED...end of story...BYE BYE...
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/13 22:54:42
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Yeah, Eddie got it right, and deep condolances for Larry on the phantom plugin. Nebula is its own creature and heavy on the CPU. Impulse file libraries deliver reverbs, flanges, cabinets maybe better than any other impulse engine, or at least up there with the best. Quite a unique, remarkable system if you have the processing power to handle it and the time to invest in learning it, and the budget to buy Nebula and the add on libraries.. Quality program without debate. Only question in this day and age, is it worth the investments of time and money when other systems even freeware can get about the same job done. John
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/14 04:06:54
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Years ago I got a copy of the original Nebula - think it was free or very nearly free. It did sort of work but the CPU hit was massive and even though I had a pretty good system for the time, this did restrict how many instances you could use to VERY few. And GUI's were dreadful. In fact it was so user unfriendly I gave up........ Recently they emailed me upgrade details to the new Nebula so I had a look - obviously things look to have moved on but so has everything else. I think the GUI's still look antiquated and I'm sure there will be a massive learning curve, so I think I won't be bothering to upgrade at this time. I do think originally it was a good idea, poorly executed unfortunately and now everything else plug in wise has improved so much, it has possibly missed its time. Nigel
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Eddie TX
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/14 16:14:31
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Bajan Blue I do think originally it was a good idea, poorly executed unfortunately and now everything else plug in wise has improved so much, it has possibly missed its time. Nigel
While I can agree with the impression that Nebula's success has been unfortunately diminished by a somewhat amateurish promotion/marketing/support regime, I don't agree that it has yet missed its time -- if anything, it's a technology ahead of its time. It does require a fair bit of DAW horsepower, although this is less of an issue than it once was -- I can run a couple dozen instances on my i7 just fine using the "reverb" version of the plugin (an example of one of the counterintuitive Nebula quirks). But as for sonic performance, there are Nebula libraries that to my ears beat any regular plugin available. A common Nebula characteristic is the sense that you're using something better than a plugin, something closer to hardware, with smooth frequency response, a sense of depth and weight, and without the usual digital artifacts. The idea is to "sample" a real piece of hardware using a very labor-intensive process to capture all its flavor and store that into impulse files (which can be very large). It's much more than simple convolution, but the basic concept is similar. Not that I'm an expert or anything. But the results to me are almost always impressive. To get an idea of what's possible, you can download some free VST plugins that use Nebula's technology from CDSoundMaster -- they run just as regular plugins, no Nebula engine required: http://cdsoundmaster.com/site/cds-software-online/demos.html. Be sure to check out the Neve 1084 mid-band EQ, for one. Have fun! Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/14 18:48:14
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Eddie, Appreciate your perspective on this. My experience was with the older version. Latency and CPU usage was bad enough that Nebula was okay for post processing, but nothing that could be used in real time. Good thumbs up that you are geting multiple events without freezing on faster systems. Back then in the dark ages, the advancement that you could use an IR wav and get a flange, then be able to control flange parameters was something nobody else could do. Had a hi novelty and shock value just because you could pull it off. The cult following for Nebula is hard core and has to have some basis. Never got into the cabinet syms because honestly can't tell a Marshal from a Vox. Reverbs were okay, but may need a second listen. Got to revisit this thing. John
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Eddie TX
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/14 21:31:19
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Latency is still an issue, so I doubt you could use Nebula while tracking, but for mixing it's not bad. Your mention of reverbs reminded me of one of the stars of Nebula: the VNXT set of vintage emulations. You can hear some audio demos here: https://soundcloud.com/vnxtsound. Don't miss the EMT140 examples. It took me quite a bit of fiddling to get that plate library to work, but the result was well worth it. It exceeds UAD's emulation, in my book. Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Acustica Plugins
2013/12/15 02:59:01
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Hi Eddie Thanks for this - I'm glad they've improved things. Perhaps one day when I have some spare time I'll have another look. Cheers Nigel
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