Add "Flyout" feature for non-ProChannle effects that are wrapped in PC bin

I would like to be able to incorporate regular FX in the ProChannel (which I know you can do via FX chains) BUT with the ability to "flyout" the original GUI for that FX.  That way I can use the ProChannel bin exclusively for both PC and regular VST FX, and be able to access their main respective UI regardless.
 
Currently I have FX in the normal bin, and some PC modules, but I dislike the separation.  I know I can "wrap" the regular FX as PC modules, but I don't like having to set these up and I lose the visual elements of the original FX UI.  But if there was a "flyout" option for these non-PC FX that would show the original UI, then I think I/we could dump the regular FX bin.
 
Hopefully that makes sense (it does to me right now).   I've added a feature request anyway, but maybe someone can think of another way to achieve this, or have something else to add that might be useful for my usage and/or the feature request itself.

satyatunes

VariousArtist
I would like to be able to incorporate regular FX in the ProChannel (which I know you can do via FX chains) BUT with the ability to "flyout" the original GUI for that FX.  That way I can use the ProChannel bin exclusively for both PC and regular VST FX, and be able to access their main respective UI regardless.
 

Is it not there already? I mean, in the FX bin you see all the effects and when you double click on any of them their respective UI opens. What extra feature would the "flyout" option provide? May be I am not able to grasp your point.

I think he's requesting the same >> flyout option as opposed to opening the effect with a "Double Click"...
in the same manner that the EQ now flies out...

cclarry

satyatunes

VariousArtist
I would like to be able to incorporate regular FX in the ProChannel (which I know you can do via FX chains) BUT with the ability to "flyout" the original GUI for that FX.  That way I can use the ProChannel bin exclusively for both PC and regular VST FX, and be able to access their main respective UI regardless.
 

Is it not there already? I mean, in the FX bin you see all the effects and when you double click on any of them their respective UI opens. What extra feature would the "flyout" option provide? May be I am not able to grasp your point.

I think he's requesting the same >> flyout option as opposed to opening the effect with a "Double Click"...
in the same manner that the EQ now flies out...

Okay but that is not possible with third party plugins without redesigning the UI. For CW plugins, yes it would make sense then the question what would it show apart from a bigger UI? All the controls are already visible on PC. I don't see any difference except one click for flyout and double click for original UI, unless I am missing something.

It would be cool to add a fly out spectrum analyzer on Concrete Limiter so that you could use it in the final stage of your Master Bus, one that measures RMS and K levels.

I still don't get the problem you're having Peter. OK, having to use FX chains is a slight pain, but there are two views to the FX chain - and the one I use just shows the plugins exactly the same way as in the "normal" FX bin. You just click on the plugin and get it's normal GUI.
 
I'm like you - I use PC for all my plugins now - so everything is in the one place. This works fine for me and is no different from loading the plugins in the other FX bin.
 
PS - I wish we could take the EQ *out* of PC when it's not being used. This would free up PC space - as I use Equilibrium (in an FX preset in PC) on everything now. The EQ is the only thing you can't remove from PC.
 

Sanderxpander
Minimizing it makes it pretty small though... But I agree.

But it never stays minimised if you go somewhere else and then back to that track's ProChannel.

Bristol_Jonesey
They did in X2
 
I can't comment on X3 (yet) but if you minimised any/all PC modules in X2, they would stay that way

Hi Bristol, they never stay minimised for me. I wonder what I'm missing, as I would *love* the EQ to stay minimised.


EDIT: I'm talking about X2 also - I haven't played enough with X3...

No rush - don't let this interfere with valuable weekend pub time! ;-)
 
I'm 100% sure that the PC EQ is (almost) always open when I go to a new track and open PC. I've never tried to change this - I always assumed that's "how it is" ;-)

I make a few. One for EQ's, one for compressors and one for saturation. I put the Comps first (unless I'm using a PC compressor), then the EQ one and put the saturation one last.

jbraner
I still don't get the problem you're having Peter. OK, having to use FX chains is a slight pain, but there are two views to the FX chain - and the one I use just shows the plugins exactly the same way as in the "normal" FX bin. You just click on the plugin and get it's normal GUI.
 

Not wanting to speak on peters behalf but I think his and my point is that the problem is plugs are exactly the same as in the FX bin. There are no improvements.
 
In my view the whole concept of the ProChannel is it displays what plugs are being used in the active track thus enabling you to quickly tweak them. This works great for ProChannel modules but you still have to click on none ProChannel plugs in the FX Chain to see them. Plus when you move to a different track they remain open cluttering the screen with plugs no longer relevant, So now you need to close them and repeat the same procedure of opening none ProChannel plugs in new track. To me this seems soooo cumbersome.
 
""Why not follow the PC theme of opening the plugs that pertain to the active track only?""
 
In addition, yes some plugs work well in the ProChannel using “Show Effects ” Where the assignable 6 buttons and 6 rotaries’ do a great job. But any plug that has multiple controls like a Multiband, or graphic displays such as VC-64, PX-64, VX-64, LP-64 and Channel Tools are left wanting for additional info.
 
Well, that’s my tuppence worth… Just saying. 
I’m planning on writing a feature request along these lines.
 
@ Make Shift... Hi Make Shift,
I’m also a fan of span (SpanFan... try saying that real quick lol) and I've been searching for a more in-depth Manual. Any ideas?