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Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
When you download Addictive Drums, it seems you only download an INSTALLER. Whe you copy it to your production PC and start it, it tries to connect to the internet. Strange. We also use Celemony and Izotope products, and they respect offline installation. So no Addictive Drums for us, I guess. :( Anyone else facing the same problem? Is there any way around this?
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/09/29 08:29:45
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Yes, this is one big PITA... if you contact AD support, they have a real convoluted work around on their registration process and download updates. I finally gave in and added wireless to my DAW and all is well now. Jim
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/09/29 08:47:31
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I gave in and connected my main machine to internet a couple of years ago - does make life so much easier - just make sure you've got got virus software -I use AVG Free which seem pretty good Nigel
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2013/09/29 08:56:17
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Just when it was all going so well............ I forgot rule no.1 - when it seems to good to be true, it usually is. :(
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/09/29 09:01:32
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I am not connecting my music PC to internet or wireless anything.
I was looking forward to AD too. Hope it ain't too bad to register/activate.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/09/29 09:11:26
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☄ Helpfulby Grem 2013/10/01 12:29:58
Grem I am not connecting my music PC to internet or wireless anything.
I was looking forward to AD too. Hope it ain't too bad to register/activate.
I've just sent a message to their support asking how to do offline installations. I imagine they may be getting a few more. CW should be making this clearer rather than just saying...buy x3 get AD. That's marketing guys for you, never quite give you the whole picture.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/09/29 09:44:30
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paulo
Grem I am not connecting my music PC to internet or wireless anything.
I was looking forward to AD too. Hope it ain't too bad to register/activate.
I've just sent a message to their support asking how to do offline installations. I imagine they may be getting a few more. CW should be making this clearer rather than just saying...buy x3 get AD. That's marketing guys for you, never quite give you the whole picture.
Hi Paulo i just open a thread for clarification. Best
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/09/29 12:03:14
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I haven't made the X3 purchase yet but I was also looking forward to adding AD to EZ and BFD Eco. And I don't have an internect connection on my DAW. So I will certainly be keeping an eye on this one.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/09/29 12:07:53
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stevec I haven't made the X3 purchase yet but I was also looking forward to adding AD to EZ and BFD Eco. And I don't have an internect connection on my DAW. So I will certainly be keeping an eye on this one.
Same here.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 02:42:28
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☄ Helpfulby lawp 2013/10/01 04:11:27
I had posted this in another thread.
How to move Addictive Drum data from one computer to anotherThe XLN installer basically forced all users to download AD directly into their DAW computer. I have figure out a work around to that and I would like to share this to help fellow Sonarian! AD is installed in three different location in my computer. I am using windows 7 64 bit. The program files was installed in Program files(x86) > XLN Audio. The AD sound samples is stored here and it is 1.21Gig in size. The 64 bit AD vst itself is installed in Program Files> Cakewalk>Vstplugins>Addictive Drum.dll. The third file is preset setting folder in the Document>Addictive Drums. Copy this 3 files/folder into the same location of your second computer. Then load AD in Sonar X3. Click beats tab and click refresh library. Have fun!
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 03:31:02
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Not to shift focus too much, but I'm kinda surprised so many people still don't use internet on their DAW computer these days, I suppose out of fear for viruses and malware? I haven't had a virus on my computer since Windows Milennium, And if you're worried, Microsoft Security Essentials or indeed AVG Free should do you fine. Generally speaking one could do without either of those if you simply don't browse "iffy" sites or open email attachments called "thisisnotavirus.exe". I couldn't imagine not having mail, wetransfer, updating, dropbox and online authorization on my DAW computer.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 03:33:13
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I would think that the installer would make entries to the register...which would not be copied. But if it's working for you....then evidently it doesn't matter :) .
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 05:40:53
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Sanderxpander Not to shift focus too much, but I'm kinda surprised so many people still don't use internet on their DAW computer these days, I suppose out of fear for viruses and malware? I haven't had a virus on my computer since Windows Milennium, And if you're worried, Microsoft Security Essentials or indeed AVG Free should do you fine. Generally speaking one could do without either of those if you simply don't browse "iffy" sites or open email attachments called "thisisnotavirus.exe". I couldn't imagine not having mail, wetransfer, updating, dropbox and online authorization on my DAW computer.
If you were doing this as a job, would not you want a pc crash in front of your client for a wifi service problem. Best
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 05:48:32
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You could use a usb wireless adspter sn remove it when not installing software. Thats what I do.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 05:53:22
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Sanderxpander Not to shift focus too much, but I'm kinda surprised so many people still don't use internet on their DAW computer these days, I suppose out of fear for viruses and malware? I haven't had a virus on my computer since Windows Milennium, And if you're worried, Microsoft Security Essentials or indeed AVG Free should do you fine. Generally speaking one could do without either of those if you simply don't browse "iffy" sites or open email attachments called "thisisnotavirus.exe". I couldn't imagine not having mail, wetransfer, updating, dropbox and online authorization on my DAW computer.
If you were doing this as a job, would not you want a pc crash in front of your client for a wifi service problem.Best
Errr, I do do this for a job. That has never happened to me btw, though I have had the odd soundcard driver crash. In fact, doing this professionally, it is immensely useful to me to have access to dropbox, gmail and wetransfer directly from my DAW pc.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 06:26:33
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Thumbs up on the USB wireless adapter! That's the method I have been using for years. It just better serves as a reminder that you are online and to get off as soon as you are done! I also use Microsoft Security Essentials. I have used McAfee, Kaspersky, and Norton. With those I still got viruses and spent hours cleaning and purging. Since I started using MSE I have never gotten anything that even resembles a virus. And it is absolutely FREE!
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JazzSinger
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 06:54:01
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Sanderxpander ... it is immensely useful to me to have access to dropbox... ...I haven't had a virus on my computer since Windows Milennium...
You may like to type "dropbox chinese hackers" into your favorite search engine when you have a moment. You are unlikely to even be aware you have malware on a modern PC.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 07:24:00
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Sanderxpander Not to shift focus too much, but I'm kinda surprised so many people still don't use internet on their DAW computer these days, I suppose out of fear for viruses and malware? I haven't had a virus on my computer since Windows Milennium, And if you're worried, Microsoft Security Essentials or indeed AVG Free should do you fine. Generally speaking one could do without either of those if you simply don't browse "iffy" sites or open email attachments called "thisisnotavirus.exe". I couldn't imagine not having mail, wetransfer, updating, dropbox and online authorization on my DAW computer.
If you were doing this as a job, would not you want a pc crash in front of your client for a wifi service problem.Best
Errr, I do do this for a job. That has never happened to me btw, though I have had the odd soundcard driver crash. In fact, doing this professionally, it is immensely useful to me to have access to dropbox, gmail and wetransfer directly from my DAW pc.
You do this for work?....ok sorry,but i transfer my masters to the label with another laptop. It's my choice. Best
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 07:41:19
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JazzSinger
Sanderxpander ... it is immensely useful to me to have access to dropbox......I haven't had a virus on my computer since Windows Milennium...
You may like to type "dropbox chinese hackers" into your favorite search engine when you have a moment. You are unlikely to even be aware you have malware on a modern PC.
Sorry but this is exactly the kind dumb link clicking and browsing you simply shouldn't do. That doesn't mean I'm not going to use internet at all. I realize everybody has to make his own decision in this, but yes, I do this for a living (next to gigging) and the time (and thus money) it saves me to use these things on a daily basis is huge. The studios around me all have and use internet too, though I think by now everyone but me is on Mac where it is somewhat less of an issue.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 07:55:47
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An additional reason I do not use Dropbox is the terms and conditions. If you are transferring creative material over dropbox, have a look at the terms of use. They may have changed since I was considering using the dropbox service, but what I read then made me balk.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 08:04:47
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I can't imagine having any computer permanently offline anymore. The sheer impracticality off it would surely dwarf any possible benefits!
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 08:16:38
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JazzSinger An additional reason I do not use Dropbox is the terms and conditions. If you are transferring creative material over dropbox, have a look at the terms of use. They may have changed since I was considering using the dropbox service, but what I read then made me balk.
same with hotmail - and plenty more free services i'm sure - all your ips are belong to them
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 08:40:03
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JazzSinger An additional reason I do not use Dropbox is the terms and conditions. If you are transferring creative material over dropbox, have a look at the terms of use. They may have changed since I was considering using the dropbox service, but what I read then made me balk.
I mainly receive files over Dropbox, like recordings or sheets for gigs. I use Wetransfer when sending stuff to others. Their TOS seemed fine last time I checked. I get that people care about a stable and secure system. I do too. If you don't trust yourself to keep it stable while connected to the internet, don't. I was just surprised that so many people seem to do this out of fear for viruses or crashes when that seemed to be mainly a Windows Millennium and early XP problem. The benefits nowadays outweigh any leftover risks by such a huge amount, to me, that I can't imagine working offline with my DAW pc at all.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 09:14:11
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I don't know if this relates completely, but what I do is go into Device Manager and disable the network connection when I have a session or am otherwise worried about an auto update or something interrupting my work. Then I just go back to Devise Manager and enable the network when I need to get access to my other computers and/or the I-net. I always move files to my laptop on the network when I am uploading/downloading or emailing music. t
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 12:52:33
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If you want to use internet on your music PC, fine. I'm not. Nor will I use anything that requires me to access the internet just to get it to work. It's not fear. Experience has taught me that I don't deal with any of the things mentioned in this thread on my music PC. I don't do this for a living. But when I do go into my "studio" :) I make music. With Win7 Pro, maintenance is almost zilch. I get Sonar working, and don't change anything until an update comes along. And knowing what I know, (and not knowing what it's like to have to depend on my studio work as my family income), that if I did have to depend on this for a living, I still wouldn't hook my main music making PC to the internet. I'd get another PC sitting on the side with a USB hd and transfer whatever I needed right on the spot. Why would I want to install Dropbox software on my main music PC? Or have Win Defender running? Or Firefox/Chrome installed on it? But that's just me.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 13:04:04
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Grem. Why would I want to install Dropbox software on my main music PC? Or have Win Defender running? Or Firefox/Chrome installed on it? But that's just me.
I think it's clear why anyone would want to. You've also explained to me why you think it's a bad idea, even if I don't agree. If you feel it makes you safe to not be online, good on you. I will say that any virus worth its salt could get on your computer through USB or a LAN just as easily. EDIT: Perhaps it makes a difference that I feel pretty confident I could solve any crash or virus apart from a total hardware failure.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 13:10:56
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I too have two PCs in my studio. One I use for work and one I use for online stuff. I have several 8gig flash drives and it's really pretty simple to authorize my software. I have Superior Drummer 2.0 so I don't see the need for AD, especially when they require you to be online to get it. I did read that you can get a stripped down version by doing it offline...but you don't get the full blown package unless you go online with your DAW. That is how I read it anyway.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 13:17:33
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I've seen a couple posts that mention that it's like how you authorize NI stuff. It is similar, but with NI, I don't have to actually install the program on another machine and then copy the folders onto my computer. Just wish they had an easier workaround... Let me ask, for you who have it installed, would you say that it's worth the trouble for me to go the workaround route? I've got DrumCore and the Zildjian/BFD Eco right now, and have been happy with it thus far. Thanks for your help.
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 15:49:59
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2013/10/09 00:37:12
Sanderxpander If you feel it makes you safe to not be online, good on you.
This is your misconception. It's not because of that. I never stated that. Read my posts. I explain clearly why I don't put it online. Sanderxpander EDIT: Perhaps it makes a difference that I feel pretty confident I could solve any crash or virus apart from a total hardware failure.
I don't know why you feel that you must state how confident you are in your abilities. Maybe your trying to make yourself feel superior to others. However, I am finding it hard to get you to understand why I don't put my music PC online! : ) Here it is as clearly as I can explain it. I don't want to. : )
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Re: Addictive Drums not installable on offline PCs-Workaround possible?
2013/10/01 15:55:20
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Leadfoot I've seen a couple posts that mention that it's like how you authorize NI stuff. It is similar, but with NI, I don't have to actually install the program on another machine and then copy the folders onto my computer. Just wish they had an easier workaround... Let me ask, for you who have it installed, would you say that it's worth the trouble for me to go the workaround route? I've got DrumCore and the Zildjian/BFD Eco right now, and have been happy with it thus far. Thanks for your help.
So if I read this right, you can install the authorization program on one computer, then transfer that authorization to the off line PC? That's do-able. I think I have a few programs that do it that way. And I'm good with that. That will work. Hope that's the case! Good question, is it worth it?
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