Adding New Tracks

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2008/09/30 09:35:39 (permalink)

Adding New Tracks

The project I'm working on won't let me add a new track. There are only 8 tracks in the project so far. This happend to me on another project wchic had 20 tracks, so I just assumed I was at the limit. I tried inserting by right clicking the mouse and from the tool bar and neither works.

Has this happened to anyone else or do you know how to fix this?

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    gamblerschoice
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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 10:07:06 (permalink)
    The only way I know to add tracks is the toolbar, "insert", then "audio track". I've never had a problem with adding additional tracks, so if this would happen to me, the first thing I would do is save the project, then close m/c completely, open m/c and the pick open from the file dropdown. Then if that didn't work, close everything again, go to the folder where the song is, pick the project folder and open from there, letting the file open m/c so to speak. Then if that didn't work I would do a lot of yellin' and screamin', open a beer, light a smoke, and come back to the forum....
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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 10:16:46 (permalink)
    Then if that didn't work I would do a lot of yellin' and screamin', open a beer, light a smoke, and come back to the forum....

    there ya go, corrupting the younguns again!!!

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 11:46:40 (permalink)
    MC should easily handle 48 tracks in audio and I think 258 in midi....

    Nutty...I have a question for you...

    Do you happen to know if your house is built on an old sacred Indian Burial ground? If so..this might explain some of the strange things that seem to happen to you.

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 12:03:07 (permalink)
    an old sacred Indian Burial ground AND an a toxic waste dump! (wasn't that what happened in Poltergiest?)

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 12:19:12 (permalink)
    Well I am starting to wonder. Even with my illnesses, I don't have any of the "typical' symptoms.

    I guess I'll have to start a new project! With Band In A Box, it's not so hard to do. But I'm starting one that I want to do unplugged which would be much more labour intensive. Jamstix is not cooperating with me either!

    Steve and I have said in another thread the MC and HS both stop working when you shut down and I have to reboot my computer. It also does this with Jamstix now. Is it MC that's the problem or is it my computer?

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 12:33:20 (permalink)
    How much ram do you have? Maybe you could refresh us on your computer specs. When was the last time you de-fragged?
    Does the sky have a gree tint that glows in the dark, and just around your house? Can you hear strange drum sounds and chanting in the middle of the night?
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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 12:44:42 (permalink)
    It's Jamstix.
    Nutty, this is the perfect opportunity for you to create your own template, as I described in a much earlier thread. You can create a template with all the audio tracks you think you'll ever need, 48 if you want, and any number of MIDI tracks you want. That way you shouldn't have to insert anything.
    You click your template at the start of a new song and it has more than you'll ever need right from the start. If you don't want to see all 76 tracks and try to keep track of what is what in your current project, hit the 'M' on your computer keyboard and choose which tracks to see. That way you may have 76 tracks available, but you're looking at only 6, or 16, whatever you choose. When you finish working on the song for the day, do a save as, name the song, and both the song and your template will be available next time.
    Just thought of a potential glitch here; if you can't insert more tracks, then you can't create a template and add tracks. So start with the 16- or 24-track stock audio template from the file. Then add MIDI as necessary to the stock template. Save as "[name of your template].tpl" and that should do it. An email to CW support may be in order to figure this out, though.
    I tried to respond to your PM but you have too many messages there.
    post edited by 57Gregy - 2008/09/30 12:51:06

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 12:47:02 (permalink)
    remember that she told us that there is a Toxic waste dump near her house!!! (or something like that, IIRC).

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 13:13:12 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Beagle
    remember that she told us that there is a Toxic waste dump near her house!!! (or something like that, IIRC).

    '
    Close, it was the primary school that I attended for 6 years.

    A new gremlin has appeared. I imported a new song from Band in a box (BIAB) which I generally have no problem with. However, this song goes on forever. It should have ended at measure 110 and it went on to measure 272! Luckily I was able to delete the excess.

    Thanks.

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 13:16:22 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: 57Gregy
    I tried to respond to your PM but you have too many messages there.


    Hmm, that's interesting. I didn't think I had any PM's. Maybe I should figure out where they are and have a read. You can send to nuttysplaceATgmailDOTcom

    I'll look into doing a template. This will prevent it crashing?

    Yes, I think it's about time to give tech support a message. I hope they are quicker than customer service. I've been waitinng for days for a response to my e-mail.


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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 13:21:52 (permalink)
    I dunno....I'm starting to think you are doing this on purpose. Maybe you're trying to get a new computer? Or you're just trying to see what happens here, like watching a dog chase it's tail (oops, sorry beagle) to see what happens when he catches it? Uh, what does happen when the puppy catches his tail, beagle?
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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 13:39:33 (permalink)
    You really don't want to know!!!!

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 13:51:26 (permalink)
    Annette, click the 'inbox' button at the top.
    It was a response to your suggestion about a good colab name.

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 15:04:30 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: 57Gregy
    Annette, click the 'inbox' button at the top.
    It was a response to your suggestion about a good colab name.


    I cleaned out the inbox; there were only 4 messages so I guess they don't give us much space. Your message was not there Greg. You may have to resend it.


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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 15:12:25 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: gamblerschoice
    I dunno....I'm starting to think you are doing this on purpose. Maybe you're trying to get a new computer?
    Later
    Albert


    This is the only attention I get, so you can't blame a gal on that!!! I do have a new computer...well less than a year old. About the specs...It's an Acer Aspire 2.6 GHz I believe and I have 3 Gb of RAM sucked up by Visoa Home basic.

    I just got a response from EMU and they said they never had a report of systems crashing using Proteus. Well apparently it does with Sonar products because it does it with MC and HS that we know of. So they said make sure nothing non-audio was running. Oh and they also made it clear that since they were offering Proteus for free, there is no technical support per se. Well, what if someone wants to buy it but tries out the free version first...is that not in there best interest to help these clients out? Just a thought.

    Oh, so now I've deleted the extra 150 measures that MC added, the time bar will not stop at the end. I did control end to mark the end of the song, but it's not working. Is there another way to mark the end of the project?

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 15:15:04 (permalink)
    You're right, it wasn't there because I couldn't send it since your inbox was overflowing with messages already! I know 4 doesn't usually qualify as 'overflowing', but that's all they allow.

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 15:37:30 (permalink)
    Greg..when you said it's Jamstix...what did you mean?.... JS inserted first hogs so much space you can't add tracks...? I've not had that problem....

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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 16:01:46 (permalink)
    Nah, Herb, I don't know if that was it. Just trying to shift the blame to something I know nothing about. I know a lot of folks use it without problems, but Annette's computer seems to have problems with it, as well as with Proteus VX. I guess I should have put a beside that statement.
    post edited by 57Gregy - 2008/09/30 16:04:08

    Greg 
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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 16:22:11 (permalink)
    For the song that never ends, a fix could be to insert a loop. Set the beginning of the loop at 1:01:000, and the end of the loop maybe a measure past the end of the song. It aint perfect, but at least the song would end, and loop back to the beginning, instead of playing dead air space for an hour.
    You definately have enough computer to handle the job, so I am at a loss for a fix of the other problems. But I'm thinking (and you know how dangerous that can be), I was just thinking maybe you should leave this problem as it is. See, if you fix this problem, another, bigger, worser, more evil problem will emerge to take its place.
    If you set up a new project with maybe 25 audio tracks in it, like the template idea from above, call it something similar to the project that is causing problems, "song name 2", and save it. Open "song name 1", the one with limited tracks, pick inside the wave area of the first audio track, click "copy", then go to the last track down, click "control" and "copy" at the same time. Close that song, go to the #2 song. In the first audio track wave area, click "paste", tell it to paste beginning at 1:01:000, hit ok, all of the audio tracks will copy over and paste to the original time stamp, just like they were in the old song. That way you don't have to lose the work you already did, and you know you have a buch of blank tracks ready to go.
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    RE: Adding New Tracks 2008/09/30 16:43:39 (permalink)
    I had another file like this (that wouldn't end) and forgot about it...got whisked off to bed. Sure enough in the morning, it was still going. I hadn't shut down my computer obviously. So, it certainly was the song that never ends!

    I will try your suggestions Albert. I tried the copy and paste trick before and I couldn't get it to work, but I will try again. Luckily I haven't done a lot to this project yet, so there's not much to move. Most of the tracks come from Band in a box and it didn't insert properly either. Usually I get the part markers and the tempo, but these have been hit and miss. I hate having to manually insert the markers! I did have the option selected in BiaB to include part markers.

    My computer must be spooked or radiated. It should know by now that stress is the worse thing that can happen to me! Stupid thing has no feellings at all!!!

    Thanks.

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