caminitic
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Alarm clock mixes
It's amazing how far I think I've come with my mixes....and I doubt they're still nowhere close to classic rock songs I wake up to every morning...on a cheesy 3" speaker in MONO. Such good perspective that those songs sound crystal clear and perfect on such an imperfect source. Who checks their mixes on mono, rinky dink sources? And should I start?!?
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KingsMix
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Re: Alarm clock mixes
2015/11/24 00:18:29
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Short answer is yes and yes. A good grot box (Avantone or similar box) can reveal deficiencies in a mix especially in the midrange and a good way to check levels of tracks (balance) i.e vocals ,bass etc..This is also why many people love yamaha ns-10's (matter of personal taste, of course). I would vote for a good grot box though (don't need a pair, just one grot box, and remember mono is your friend when it comes to final mix checks).
post edited by KingsMix - 2015/11/24 00:35:49
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rebel007
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Re: Alarm clock mixes
2015/11/24 01:06:06
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There is more than one professional mixer that have confessed to start their stereo widening, and addition of plugins, only after they have achieved a nice balance in mono.
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John T
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Re: Alarm clock mixes
2015/11/24 02:28:04
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It's important to be in the habit of listening in different formats and contexts.
I've got things set up so I'm just a button press away from choosing between my monitors, some fairly nice hi-fi speakers, a pair of pretty nasty Dell computer speakers, and a headphone out with earbuds. And I've got Panipulator in the master bus of my standard template. The monitors are for doing the actual work, and the other options are for various verifications and checks. I also routinely upload works in progress to soundcloud so I can listen to them on headphones while I'm walking down the street. That's a great test. For one thing, soundcloud streaming quality is pretty terrible; I think 128k mp3, more or less. And listening to 128k on earbuds walking down a busy street; well, you've got yourself a mainstream use case right there. If your mix holds up in that situation, then YOU DA MAN.
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Re: Alarm clock mixes
2015/11/24 07:20:30
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I have taken to using my cellphone lying on a hard, flat surface. It is a good mono test that tends to make volume variations on different frequencies very noticeable and is also a medium that is becoming more and more popular for playback. Ear buds is another check, but I do not find that as revealing as the built-in speaker (Droid Maxx HD). It is not useful to check bass frequencies, but a good litmus test for the rest. I have a case on mine, so the flat surface forces the signal direction and removes reverb effects of the playback.
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caminitic
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Re: Alarm clock mixes
2015/11/24 09:46:12
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What is the industry standard for Pan Law and mono mixes? I notice the Panipulator has L+R 0db, -3db, and -6db as options...and despite reading about this I'm still confused. What kind of mono is my clock radio playing???
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Re: Alarm clock mixes
2015/11/24 11:19:14
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If it's truly mono, pan laws don't come into play at all. That only applies to mono tracks in a stereo mix, and then only in how levels are handled as you change the pan position, not the final result.
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Re: Alarm clock mixes
2015/11/24 11:20:44
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There's no standard as such. Different mixing consoles have historically had different pan behaviours. The various pan law settings let you get an approximation of something you might be used to. Broadly speaking, a centre dip will make volume seem more consistent across the full width. That's all it's for, really.
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