All Sonar X1 Needs Now......

i dont know,
ive found many uses still for demention pro.
have you got any of the refill librarys?
ive got two and they are really good.
even the out of the box samples are good.

i know its not kontakt,but i think sonars stregnth lays in its daw features.

When Dimension Pro was first released it was close to the price of KONTAKT.
Thought it was a bargain when they dropped the price to $199. Then after only a point release upgrade (1.2 to 1.5), a couple of years later they give it away with SONAR Producer. Go figure!

Can't remember the last time I used it. 

Having said that though, for someone who's just getting into the whole audio thing the SONAR Producer package is pretty complete with synths and fx plugins

There is a value in a new sound however I came into music because I liked the sound of the saxophone as a child. Not a new sound that unless one counts what I sounded like when I first started playing it. Many like the sound of the guitar so much so it inspired them to take it up and music. I don't know of anyone that took up music simply to make new sounds.

Sound design is an offshoot of sound FX. It only came into music as a force with electronic synthesis. Get Rapture or Z3TA 2 and make all the sounds you want. Also don't forget the Pentagon I synth.

I'm not sure the world needs another analog synth though.

Me, I prefer that Cakewalk creates instruments as separate products as I have no use for them and when I do use a virtual instrument, I find 3rd party products more to my liking.

I think Cakewalk needs to keep perfecting the base product;

Fully develop the Browser view.
Improve track comping workflow
Improve friendly named i/o

Mod Bod


Me, I prefer that Cakewalk creates instruments as separate products as I have no use for them and when I do use a virtual instrument, I find 3rd party products more to my liking. 

+1
 
And if Cakewalk did come up with a sampler it would have to be a real "Kontakt killer" with extensive scripting (otherwise whats the point?) I think it would be best as a seperate product as the cost of development would be high and it would be a high ticket item. Then to be sucessful it would need third party developers to embrace it. This is where Kontakt wins hands down. Just look at the products put out by Orange Tree, Kirk Hunter, Hollow Sun, Sonokinetic, 8Dio and others. Breaking Kontakt's stranglehold is not an easy task.

I support DAWS having a core set of sounds included like drums, bass, strings, etc. In fact, I've always pushed for them to be better. We all may move on to other things but most of us start there. Some people don't move much outside of their chosen DAW for sounds and some are forced to because of what's on offer. You don't need a tonne of bells and whistles but ding dong pheep is always welcome.

Is....... A full featured sampler!!!!

 
FWIW, That is a *HUGE* undertaking.
The benchmark is Kontakt 5.
It would take several years of intense development to equal Kontakt 5.
It's a huge risk... in a tough economy.

cyphersuit


Honestly, all Sonar needs now is to become STABLE. Have been using Studio One for 30 days now. Not a single crash or audio engine dropout. Still keeping X1 just in case. But it keeped either crashing or having the audio engine drop out in every session (and my computer is a brand new beast).

Sounds like a configuration or setup problem to me. What have you done to resolve it?

As much as i would love a full featured sampler, i doubt Cakewalk could produce something along the lines of Kontakt without jacking up the price.  the people who keep mentioning Dimension Pro don't seem to get that there is a big difference between sample playback synths and samplers.  Yes, with A LOT of patience and workarounds, one could recreate a good chunk of the functionality of a full featured sampler, but you would have no hair left by the end of the day. Simply creating g a drum kit from scratch would require serious sfz file authoring.  For music genres where one is likely to use the same kit consistently, that is not a bad option.  

It is stable. I find it the most stable DAW I own. I have Reaper, Studio One and FL Studio. They are all stable for the most part but X1 is the most stable for me.

I also used the trial of Cubase 6.5 recently it was also stable but no more so than X1.

For example double clicking on ProChannel will not crash X1 on my system.

In the webinar that was just done by Brandon and Seth an entire session was done with X1 and no crashes. If it were unstable could such a thing be done?

The notion that X1 is unstable is bogus.

There are many reasons a DAW crashes. More likely its either a driver or a weak hardware component in the system as the root cause. It is not always the software.

It seems to me that a person that paid good money for a product and it is crashing on them would seek tech support from the developer to find a fix. Complaining in a thread asking for a sampler seems a waste of time and forum space as well as misinformation.

John


It is stable. I find it the most stable DAW I own. I have Reaper, Studio One and FL Studio. They are all stable for the most part but X1 is the most stable for me.

I also used the trial of Cubase 6.5 recently it was also stable but no more so than X1.

For example double clicking on ProChannel will not crash X1 on my system.

In the webinar that was just done by Brandon and Seth an entire session was done with X1 and no crashes. If it were unstable could such a thing be done?

The notion that X1 is unstable is bogus.

There are many reasons a DAW crashes. More likely its either a driver or a weak hardware component in the system as the root cause. It is not always the software.

It seems to me that a person that paid good money for a product and it is crashing on them would seek tech support from the developer to find a fix. Complaining in a thread asking for a sampler seems a waste of time and forum space as well as misinformation.

8.5.3 was stable for me.
X1 never. and i used it on different pcs. And yeah, i was seeking help for weeks. 
So i think it's really arrogant to say that i am giving misinformation.

dont't waste his time with this misinformation ;)

I think those that do have issues with X1 need to read how others don't have issues. It is not across the board that people are all finding problems. In my view that is backed up with what has been posted on this forum and shows that the ones having problems are a minority that seem very vocal.

Besides if you do have stability issues wouldn't it be far more productive for you to contact CW directly and see if a fix is possible? After all that is what tech support is for.

Posting here on a thread that is not about bugs, problems or issues is being off topic and a great waste of your's and others time.

That interface should work very well indeed. I would call Roland or even CW tech support to get this problem worked out.

If ASIO4ALL is working something is really screwed up on your machine.

Have you tried WaveRT drivers?

What I really would like to see, is the ability to bounce a MIDI clip, or a selection of MIDI notes into audio clips instead of having to bounce entire MIDI tracks.

I also really would love to see the return of Roland VSC, or similar GS-compatible MIDI wavetable synths as an upgrade to Cakewalk TTS.