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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 16:51:28
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You are not compelled to update should they change your daw to a daw you don't like / can't use so it's all good. Just wait after each update for a few days until it seems cool to update.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 17:21:25
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Kamikaze 77% of stats are made up. Nay!
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 17:51:24
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NAY!!!! As a former lifetimer (I know, I know, we don't matter anymore), such an approach would be extra-unappreciated.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 18:14:13
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Right now I have faith bandlab will be doing things in the best interest of this product so... NAY! Also, I (and many others) OWN it (SONAR PLAT) and believe that will stay that way so if I chose to later NOT upgrade, I won't. Except for powr 3 dithering, EVERYTHING I used before CBB now is working perfectly so I will support Bandlab for now and pay close attention to their decisions going forward
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 18:22:23
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stxxAlso, I (and many others) OWN it (SONAR PLAT) and believe that will stay that way so if I chose to later NOT upgrade, I won't... Until we got the unlock key on our disks, we don't own Splat, sorry to dispel someone's dream.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 18:26:27
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 18:31:28
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stxx Except for powr 3 dithering, EVERYTHING I used before CBB now is working perfectly so I will support Bandlab for now and pay close attention to their decisions going forward
Pow-r dithering was added to CbB 24.04.1.28 To the OP, it would be a No from me.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 18:34:30
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 20:13:52
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My vote is a resounding NAY! tecknot As for you revenue plan, don't kill the goose. I think Meng knows what he is doing as does Noel. Together, we can trust that these guys have us in good hands.
I believe that tecknot pretty much said it. I believe in Meng and Noel. Adding that to the time they spent with the Cakewalk Forum and Craig, it becomes hard to fathom that they would not know and/or do what is best for the Cakewalk Community. They brought Cakewalk Sonar very far very quickly when it was a Gibson Brand and their continued efforts for Cakewalk by BandLab are very much appreciated and needed. Change is good in the right hands. You guys rock! My only grief is the "Last Sonar Upgrade you will ever buy" and "Lifetime Updates" I paid extra for when I purchased Sonar Platinum. Doyle Primm
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 23:15:29
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chris.r
stxxAlso, I (and many others) OWN it (SONAR PLAT) and believe that will stay that way so if I chose to later NOT upgrade, I won't... Until we got the unlock key on our disks, we don't own Splat, sorry to dispel someone's dream.
Disk? what disk? There will be no unlock code because there is no reason for Bandlab to waist the time it would take to code that and deliver it. Talk about a lot of work just to please?? who?? It is not their problem anyway. The status Quo have moved on and there is no logical reason to use the legacy version of Splat anymore. The few who choose to do so are a very small minority so are left behind to fend for themselves. This is fine, each to there own. Bandlab will be focusing on making Cakewalk grow and improve. At this point you'd have to be very paranoid to think otherwise. And nobody ever "owns" software, you only have a licence to use it. How many times does this have to be repeated around here before everyone "get's it" And there is no plan to remove the servers that activate the legacy products. My guess is that by the time that happens the world will be a different place and there will be only a handful of people who would notice.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/02 23:48:30
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I am in favor of changes. I love change. I think of these circumstances as an opportunity, and I think the BL and CW team do as well. There is so much good to gain if this is all approached the right way. Sure, it may not be for everyone. Sure, some changes may mean relearning some nuances, but at the end of the day the goal is to make a better product and a long lived product. As a personal example: I have a good ol' foxbody mustang that I just love! Have had it for 10 years, was my first mustang, proud owner. I put more $ into it than it's worth on horsepower upgrades, etc. Well, some idiot ran right into it while parked, now it's not worth anything and worse, I can't even drive it. Well, insurance bailed me out with a check, and now i have an opportunity to make what was an ok car into an even better car. It's going to take me a boatload of work, blood, sweat, and tears. Maybe even a little more $. But at the end (if I do it right), I will have a mustang that looks and runs better than before and will (hopefully) last longer as well. I don't have to do that. I could actually take the insurance money and just get the repairs done...keep the status quo. But, I think about this great opportunity I have to do even more..., how could I pass it up? Dave
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 01:55:45
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mickeymonster Meng. Don't change anything within the DAW itself. Keep it free. Think in terms of upgrades, not updates. An idea: Why not use Bandlab assistant like Gibson used Command Center, but instead of monthly free updates and paid DAW subscription, reverse it. Let the current version remain free and sell new features as upgrades as you develop them quarterly. Don't force it on everyone to please the minority. If they want the DAW changed, make them pay for it.
Oh, I get it. This is a free DEMO, then. Thanks for clarifying that. In that case now I know I'll just go back to using X3 before I get any further into using this. Thank you, Mickey. John B.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 03:14:17
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spacey I was really looking forward to having "real ownership" of all my Cakewalk purchases with no need for an internet account. To use Platinum as is. To use all of my Cakewalk purchases "as is". I (and everyone else) was informed that would happen when customers would no longer have access to their Cakewalk purchases via the Cakewalk website.
Do you not still have access to your Cakewalk purchases via the Cakewalk website? My Cakewalk Command Center still works, is it hosed up for some people?
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 04:17:21
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Sorry, but no. Not sure I can agree on those percentages.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 04:37:14
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/05/03 11:49:10
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mickeymonster Meng. Don't change anything within the DAW itself. Keep it free. Think in terms of upgrades, not updates. An idea: Why not use Bandlab assistant like Gibson used Command Center, but instead of monthly free updates and paid DAW subscription, reverse it. Let the current version remain free and sell new features as upgrades as you develop them quarterly. Don't force it on everyone to please the minority. If they want the DAW changed, make them pay for it.
Oh, I get it. This is a free DEMO, then. Thanks for clarifying that. In that case now I know I'll just go back to using X3 before I get any further into using this. Thank you, Mickey. John B.
Instead of listening to Mickey the Monster, who's lobbying to stopping the development of CbB ... I think you would be better off listening to what BandLab and the owner Meng have to say about the matter. After all he's the one who makes the decisions for the future of Cakewalk.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 06:05:58
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I would have to say mickeymonster's extremely long post was met with 99.99501% negative responses. +/- 0.01% margin for error.
oh.....and NAY! And Ivory Soap is still 99 44/100% pure.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 06:28:51
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I would like the name to change to MENGCAKE an asian flavor. Sounds good doesn't it?
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 06:52:31
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cowboydan I would like the name to change to MENGCAKE an asian flavor. Sounds good doesn't it?
I like Pandan Cake, and I'd love to try MengCake! Seriously though, who knows what new and innovative ways Meng and his team will take CbB? From what I have seen so far BandLab are at least as progressive a company as CakeWalk were and I'm happy for them to develop it as they see fit.
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2018/05/03 06:52:31
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 07:26:26
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You already had your moratorium on changes to the program from November 21, 2017 to April 3, 2018, thanks to the wonderful folks at Gibson.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 09:36:34
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bitman
You are not compelled to update should they change your daw to a daw you don't like / can't use so it's all good. Just wait after each update for a few days until it seems cool to update.
IMHO it is not that easy! Well, you can stay on an older version as long as your PC runs, is not replaced or you don't do a clean setup of Windows. But you do not have the same possibility like with CC anymore to install an older release if you want to. In respect to the OP I have to add that it is also my nature to be sceptical. But what I have seen with BandLab and CbB I am positively surprised so far! On the other hand if I look at the updates of Windows 10, Skype, the European Union, the Swedish state, my internet connection, quality of consumer products, ..., then there are a lot of reasons not to feel confident in the future! Marc
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 09:46:23
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Actually, you can, by copying the older cakewalk.exe install file and running that *after* installing the latest version (to do the authorisation). Or at least, that will work in theory.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 10:06:39
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I would prefer more of a focus on fixing long standing bugs over new functionality, at least for a while. As for "no change" though firstly you might as well stick with SPlat which definitely won't change and secondly my vote for no change in CbB is NAY.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 10:41:31
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iRelevant
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mickeymonster Meng. Don't change anything within the DAW itself. Keep it free. Think in terms of upgrades, not updates. An idea: Why not use Bandlab assistant like Gibson used Command Center, but instead of monthly free updates and paid DAW subscription, reverse it. Let the current version remain free and sell new features as upgrades as you develop them quarterly. Don't force it on everyone to please the minority. If they want the DAW changed, make them pay for it.
Oh, I get it. This is a free DEMO, then. Thanks for clarifying that. In that case now I know I'll just go back to using X3 before I get any further into using this. Thank you, Mickey. John B.
Instead of listening to Mickey the Monster, who's lobbying to stopping the development of CbB ... I think you would be better off listening to what BandLab and the owner Meng have to say about the matter. After all he's the one who makes the decisions for the future of Cakewalk.
Yeah. I guess I should do that, but there are so many announcements of late that I don't have time to look at them all. What I usually do is start at the SONAR part of the forum and go down the first page. But I guess, since there seems to be so much speculation and ideas from people who aren't part of the final decisions I should make more of an attempt to filter out most but Meng's/Bandlabs. JB
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 11:50:54
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It's a nay from me as well.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 11:51:49
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spacey I was really looking forward to having "real ownership" of all my Cakewalk purchases with no need for an internet account. To use Platinum as is. To use all of my Cakewalk purchases "as is". I (and everyone else) was informed that would happen when customers would no longer have access to their Cakewalk purchases via the Cakewalk website.
Do you not still have access to your Cakewalk purchases via the Cakewalk website? My Cakewalk Command Center still works, is it hosed up for some people?
Yes I still have access. I don't know if others are having troubles. Of course your questions from concern are misdirecting my comments. It's not a question of access to my Cakewalk purchases. My statements were an answer and opinion to the OP. I stated that I would have and would still be content with no updates nor upgrades to any and all of my Cakewalk purchases and to "own" them as is -and as it was stated would happen IF the website with my account went down and unfortunately for me this site is still operating and I'm still having to monitor it waiting to see if I ever gain "ownership" of my purchases. (which I also stated I don't think will happen now that BandLab showed up) I don't understand how my original post wasn't clear but I hope this resolves your confusion...of course your concern of others troubles is something I can't help you with.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 13:49:39
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i think the (probably unofficial) offer to "unlock" cakewalk sonar was made while everything was still "up in the air" after the initial surprise news, and it didn't get implemented before bandlab bought it, so it's no longer legally possible to just do the unlock on the pre-bandlab version(s) without bandlab giving it the ok (which of course they don't have to do, they have no legal commitment to cakewalk customers, but they still might you never know) (and i wish they 'd chosen a different name than "cakewalk" because it makes this kind of discussion confusing)
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 14:09:17
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Euthymia
spacey I was really looking forward to having "real ownership" of all my Cakewalk purchases with no need for an internet account. To use Platinum as is. To use all of my Cakewalk purchases "as is". I (and everyone else) was informed that would happen when customers would no longer have access to their Cakewalk purchases via the Cakewalk website.
Do you not still have access to your Cakewalk purchases via the Cakewalk website? My Cakewalk Command Center still works, is it hosed up for some people?
Yes I still have access. I don't know if others are having troubles. Of course your questions from concern are misdirecting my comments. It's not a question of access to my Cakewalk purchases. My statements were an answer and opinion to the OP. I stated that I would have and would still be content with no updates nor upgrades to any and all of my Cakewalk purchases and to "own" them as is -and as it was stated would happen IF the website with my account went down and unfortunately for me this site is still operating and I'm still having to monitor it waiting to see if I ever gain "ownership" of my purchases. (which I also stated I don't think will happen now that BandLab showed up) I don't understand how my original post wasn't clear but I hope this resolves your confusion...of course your concern of others troubles is something I can't help you with. One thing you should consider, given the latest news for Gibson Brands filing for Chapter 11, is that it is likely that you in the near future will have a contract and license with a non existent company. You will be forced to take a loss along with all other stakeholders and creditors to the company. Your license will become null and void. Now ... the good news is this ... the new owner of the IP to which you hold a license, are offering a bridge over troubled waters ... saying you can keep whatever you have without having to pay for it again. Just register with the new IP owner ... and all is good. That is an admirably kind offer, and definitively not in line with the London School of Economics thinking.
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Re: All in favor of not changing Cakewalk by bandlab say Aye!
2018/05/03 14:20:17
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I've been using Cakewalk since the year 2000. Back then it was Pro Audio 8 and was the most expensive piece of software I had ever bought. But that price paled in comparison to the amount I spent on building my own DAW. Here it is, 18 years later and the same basic DAW is in place (well the CPU and OS have changed, along with some of the hardware) and I'm still using Cakewalk. And it still gives me fits, but there's almost always a solution to them -- I might not be able to find that solution, but usually somebody here is generous enough to help out and get me unstuck. Bottom line: I can produce the music I hear in my head with SPlat and its many add-ons. So I really hope that any future changes are gradual ones that I can easily adopt into my mix.
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