I had no idea when I posted that you would then re-qualify your question and call my honest response a misrepresentation because what you had really meant was "list non-cosmetic things as interpreted by me". At the moment I feel like you obviously had an agenda other than the thread title, and I really feel like this thread is more about you proving your point than it is about helping people out. So I will agree to bow out of the thread.

Of course I have an agenda. I wouldn't be on this forum if I didn't. You are free to leave this thread if you wish. You also have every right to post your thoughts here and disagree with me on any point. If however you think I have engaged in deceptive practices you are mistaken.  This forum is a dialog between Sonar users with each one having the same rights and obligations. I have no power greater then anyone else. What you see as a feature removed I see a different way to do something.

I have explained more then once what it means to me to say a feature is no longer available and a change in the way one goes about activating that feature.

You say you miss the save button. I wont, why? I never used it ever. I always used save as. I wanted a save as button. I couldn't care less about a missing save button. We each have very different needs and wants. What you think is a negative to me may be a positive. None the less I was able to save as any time I wanted. If save was the only option then it would be very different.

There is a huge distinction between those here that have deliberately deceived me by proclaiming that X1 does not have the features that were in Sonar 8.5.3.

People may have been put off by that and not looked into it as I have. I sure was at fist. Those people have been given bad information no matter how well intentioned it may have been. They could be uninterested in X1 now and will not upgrade because of what posters are saying. That is not going to be the case due to this thread nor will people upgrade due solely to this thread.

I think I have been clear what this thread is about. But to restate it it is about countering invalid information and misrepresentation.

I didn't go on anyone's thread and post contrary info out of not knowing what the facts really were. Now I have a much clearer picture about that thus this thread.

I find it more the slightly-amusing that John, one of the staunchest supporters of X-1- has never used it.. classic!!

I find it more the slightly-amusing that John, one of the staunchest supporters of X-1- has never used it.. classic!!

That is untrue. I am opposed to bad information only.

John

That is untrue. I am opposed to bad information only.

^ Sounds noble...

Since it seems like you have much free time, being on the forums an all.... why not download X-1, use it for a bit, then make a new thread with your thoughts?

It would be safe to say that most of us would appreciate it!!

mixmkr


how about custom colors and a floatable large transport?

I kind of like the new transport, everything I used is right there without popping up the large transport.

@John

In this case then, we will have the historical moment of a software user that WISHES his favourite software has indeed a bug.

I WISH this all is only a bug and in the future we WILL have independent PRV and TV snap to grid settings.


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edit: just saw the link, oh trust me there isnt ONE thread relevant to "snap" I havent read! ;) In that one I have also posted! ;)

After reading your intention for the thread, I feel your thread title is vague and misleading. If you wanted to help people find things, reflect that in the title.

 
The title does reflect that. John has mearly opened a venue for users to discuss the issue.

The setup and lists of commands has changed so lets work on finding the rearrangement of commands before we start jumping down each others throats. If John was any more polite in response to some your attitudes I'd have to slap him for being a bi**h.

If John was any more polite in response to some your attitudes I'd have to slap him for being a bi**h.

ROFLMAO. Trying to make me laugh?  Well you did.

Thanks Craig for your postings.

The Manual or X1?

Scott and I both have X1.

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John


Thegeek;
It may be a bug. I am reading very odd reports about this issue. Some have confirmed this behavior. What seems to be happening is it in fact is independent but if one uses 16th notes it recombines to the global snap to grid setting. If this is true, and I think it is, its a bug that needs to be reported as such.  Clearly I can neither confirm or deny it not having X1 at present.

Check out Mod Bod's thread on it here.

Yes, you described perfectly what's happening for me - note length and Grid are independent until a 16th note is chosen in PRV, then the "Universal Grid" changes.

Here's the vid posted on Mod Bod's thread:

PRV and Grid

You can see me choosing different note lengths, and then things get messed up once I go to 16th notes.  It becomes totally confusing what the relationship is between PRV and Grid, with the Grid halving its snap value sometimes, and at other times, changing to match the PRV value exactly.

Other people on that thread don't seem to have this problem - I can't figure out what the differences are between what I'm doing and what they're doing.  Am I the only person this is happening to?

But there are many posts about the Grid and its relationship to the PRV - exactly what it's all about is rather murky, since the behavior doesn't seem consistent from user to user.  But we've all seen posts talking about how the 16th note resolution is involved with another issue - the Grid reverting to that when a project is open again.

Confusing stuff, with several reported problems possibly being related.

Randy B.

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I have a ways to go before I begin looking at the PRV... but at least I can spell it!