Am I going in the right direction? - Just Cant Help Believing

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Am I going in the right direction? - Just Cant Help Believing

Over 30 tracks to make this song
I Just Cant Help Believing
https://soundcloud.com/th...ust-cant-help-believin

Done in X2

Interested in Ideas and collabs.
hope you enjoy.
post edited by the wildman - 2015/04/24 18:51:06

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/16 13:18:31 (permalink)
    So I'm wondering if anyone checked this out yet? :-)

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/19 20:21:10 (permalink)
    Hi.
    I think your vocal is very nice, but I think the track could use a little more low end. 
    Maybe you should  work a little more with the bass and drum sound?
    (I'm listening on a pair of cheap headphones so I may be wrong)

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/19 20:38:35 (permalink)
    I'm just curious.  I see it was written by Barry Mann, and I remember B. J. Thomas doing this back in the day, yet I see you made no mention of that.  I listened to the original on Youtube to be sure, and you did manage to replicate his version somewhat.  Though you did a fine job, it's always risky to do a cover song if you don't capture the essence of the original or recreate it so much that it becomes your own.  With the modern equipment that you have, I would think that you could have added something new to the mix.  Otherwise, it's OK.

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/20 05:09:21 (permalink)
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    Hi.
    I think your vocal is very nice, but I think the track could use a little more low end. 
    Maybe you should  work a little more with the bass and drum sound?
    (I'm listening on a pair of cheap headphones so I may be wrong)

    I think you need to listen to anything with at least half decent speakers / headphones to hear what's going on.

    Thanks for listening Roger.
    I hope you enjoyed it

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/20 06:31:30 (permalink)
    Lynn
    I'm just curious.  I see it was written by Barry Mann, and I remember B. J. Thomas doing this back in the day, yet I see you made no mention of that.  I listened to the original on Youtube to be sure, and you did manage to replicate his version somewhat.  Though you did a fine job, it's always risky to do a cover song if you don't capture the essence of the original or recreate it so much that it becomes your own.  With the modern equipment that you have, I would think that you could have added something new to the mix.  Otherwise, it's OK.

    BJ did a duet with Vince Gill which was an Interesting variation on the song.
    I always associate this song with Elvis.
    Even BJ made his versions sound more like the live Elvis arrangements when BJ ever played it later on.
    I couldn't manage to replicate the playing style of the TCB band, (Ronnie Tutt on drums, James Burton on lead guitar, Jerry Scheff on the bass) but I did triy to capture as much of the mood as I felt it.
    Its true that doing a cover is risky.
    Maybe I should try to do a variation as you suggested, that would be fun and interesting to see what could be made of it.
    Cheers Lynn.

    regards Phill.

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/20 10:14:29 (permalink)
    I'm curious to know which sound modules you used to generate the drums, bass, brass and strings. To me it sounds very much like midi hardware sound generator modules. While these have their place, I think that for a showcase song like this to display your talents, Sonar offers better sound generators.
     
    I think you  have a fine voice and your programing skills are fine, but it's the lack of solid bass and cheezy drums and brass sounds that let the song down. I agree with Lynn that doing covers is risky and you need to add something to make it your own. That could be as simple as changing the arrangement slightly, or using live instruments. You don't need to follow the arrangement or instrumentation of the original artist. Still it's a good effort.
     

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/20 12:30:02 (permalink)
    optimus
    I'm curious to know which sound modules you used to generate the drums, bass, brass and strings. To me it sounds very much like midi hardware sound generator modules. While these have their place, I think that for a showcase song like this to display your talents, Sonar offers better sound generators.
     
    I think you  have a fine voice and your programing skills are fine, but it's the lack of solid bass and cheezy drums and brass sounds that let the song down. I agree with Lynn that doing covers is risky and you need to add something to make it your own. That could be as simple as changing the arrangement slightly, or using live instruments. You don't need to follow the arrangement or instrumentation of the original artist. Still it's a good effort.
     


    Hi optimus
    thanks for the listen.
    I used:
    Session Drummer 3 for the Drums with 'Steven Slate Sizzle Kit'
    20 tracks of 'Cakewalk TTS1' (2x instances of TTS1) Various Strings, Brass, Trumpets, Keyboards, Jazz Bass
    2x tracks of 'Dimension Pro' for Trumpet and Hammond Organ
    1x track of 'Roland Groove Synth' for Brass
    1x track of audio with Fender Strat guitar
    4x tracks of audio for the Vocals
     
     

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/20 13:50:30 (permalink)
    I agree with some of the others.  First, you did a decent job on the music but it is very midi sounding and lacks a bottom.  As Lynn said, to avoid any trouble, you probably should credit the original writer and artist on your post.  You have a good start and you have talent but the mix is "thin".  Keep on workin, Wildman. 

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/20 16:05:52 (permalink)
    Thanks evadianepug,
    I have credited the composers on the soundcloud page if you look, but in case you missed it it is: 
    Words Cynthia Weil and music by Barry Mann - Recorded, Produced and Performed by Phill J Wildman.
     
    Ill keep on rockin'. 

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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/23 07:43:22 (permalink)
     
    btw, I'm using X2
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    Re: Well heres another one - Elvis Presley cover from early 70s 2015/04/24 18:46:08 (permalink)
    I have taken on board all your comments, and have remixed the recording and replaced the Bass part with a new Bass Guitar track. I took out a couple of tracks that were not really required.
    I'm a learner at all this mixing stuff, and I find it hard to do, so welcome suggestions as ever.
     
    Ive tried hard to alter this, please tell me if its any good guys.
    Im trying to work out how its all done.
    new mix is on the same Link 
     
    thanks 
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